PDK-only for next Porsche 911 GT3?


The next Porsche 911 GT3, due next year, could be PDK-only, according to a report from US site Inside Line.

Currently both manual and twin-clutch PDK versions of the new hardcore 911 are being evaluated, but only one gearbox will eventually find its way into a production-ready GT3. And 911 project chief, August Achleitner, reckons that the winner could well be the PDK.


"When we launched the 911 Turbo S, we did not offer a manual, but we have not had a single complaint," Achleitner told Inside Line.

Pretty telling stuff, but it would be a brave move to risk the wrath of manual-loving Porsche purists for the sake of a more populist 'box. Especially as both the new GT3 and GT2 will get the 991's electromechanical power steering set-up, which has been criticised by some for offering less 'feel'.

The big question is: if you're going to buy a 911 GT3, do you mind that it could have both electric power steering and a PDK transmission...?

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  • Baddie 21 Jun 2012

    Dave Hedgehog said:
    can you get a manual fezza now?
    Probably depends how much money you've got. LH got a paddle-shift Zonda with a manual box.


  • juansolo 18 Feb 2012

    This is a tough one as after a recent test drive of a different modern car with a 7 speed auto (that could also do flappy paddles), I would have the auto for my daily driver. It was that smooth and impressive. That's the first time I've ever been able to say that.

    However, for my road toys I'd still rather have a manual box rather than klickenflappen. Purely because I enjoy the manual process of driving. Sure it's is slower, so what? I'm not on track, why would it matter. I like the feeling of well executed changes. It's part of the appeal.

    I can see Porsches reasoning, there's a significant and noticable difference in the acceleration figures (which like it or not, sell cars), and it certainly brings down emmissions. Also having only one box is easier and more economical than offering two. Which is why I do think the switch over is sadly inevitable. But some of us are dinosaurs and like the interactivity of a manual box.

    Also, FWIW, PDK is a robotised manual system and modern race cars (Porsche included) use proper sequential gears with no clutch (except for start) and straight cut dog gears. They may have tried the system in the 70's, but they're very different these days and are in no way suitable for road use or are comparable to them. Much like Ferrari's road system bears knob all resemblance to the stuff they use in F1 other than the change is initiated by a wheel mounted paddle switch.

    Edited by juansolo on Saturday 18th February 08:49

  • Gary C 17 Feb 2012

    mollytherocker said:
    Gary C said:
    Dr JonboyG said:
    If it means the RSR gets a PDK gearbox, then the 'purists' don't have a leg to stand on.
    Why?
    Because it will wither and die.

    MTR
    Their legs? wink

    I see what you meant but porsche still has a significant number of buyers who would like a manual. Question is why.

    I know I like the G50 in my Carrera, a pdk would undountedly be "better" from any engineering pov, a link to the race car is a nice fashion accessory, but I like the way a manual makes the experience broader, and so do a lot of other Porsche owners I believe. As such I think the manual should be available.

  • mollytherocker 16 Feb 2012

    SonnyM said:
    Polarbert said:
    DiscoColin said:
    Polarbert said:
    I thought it started on the Porsche rally cars? Or am I mistaken.
    A quick google points to the original Porsche developed PDK system being installed in Group C (956/962) in 1983 and the S1 Audi Sport Quattro some time from 1985. I'll leave it for someone else to dig out anything more specific though.
    thumbup Cool.
    Especially for you all...

    http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0807_de...
    Its always great to hear from someone like Bell of course. But read it. Its hardly relevant. Its about RACING.

    MTR

  • SonnyM 16 Feb 2012

    Polarbert said:
    DiscoColin said:
    Polarbert said:
    I thought it started on the Porsche rally cars? Or am I mistaken.
    A quick google points to the original Porsche developed PDK system being installed in Group C (956/962) in 1983 and the S1 Audi Sport Quattro some time from 1985. I'll leave it for someone else to dig out anything more specific though.
    thumbup Cool.
    Especially for you all...

    http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0807_de...

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