Chris Harris video: GT-R Track Pack vs 911 Turbo


Track Pack, as descriptions of a motor car go, is one of the more straightforward. There is probably a list of equipment in every PHer's head which would fit into an imaginary 'Track Pack'.

GT-R was benchmarked against Turbo
GT-R was benchmarked against Turbo
Strangely, Nissan has just released its GT-R TrackPack, and I don't think its specification includes any of the stuff we'd have listed. No sticky tyres, no roll cage, no larger brakes, no aerofoil.

In fact the £85,540 Track Pack is actually pretty similar to the £10,000 cheaper vanilla GT-R. There are different seats, snazzy, lighter wheels and some new suspension settings. But that's pretty much it.

What grabs my attention is the list price. The first UK R35 GT-R I drove was £52,995 - this one is over £30K more and it is mechanically little different. Yes, the 490hp is now 550hp, and there are a load of upgrades, but most of those come with successive modelyear improvements. Where once the GT-R was an absolute bargain, that is no longer the case.

Track Pack Nissan GT-R ... on a track!
Track Pack Nissan GT-R ... on a track!
Should we have tested it next to a GT3? Possibly. But you've had enough GT3 content from me. Besides, with 4WD, paddles, two turbos, four seats and no cage, the GT-R shares more with the Turbo, on paper, than it does the GT car.

I didn't really warm to the direct injection 997Turbos when they were launched in 2009/2010. I just thought they were rather soulless devices capable of terrifying you through sheer speed but, once you'd experienced that trick, there wasn't much else to savour. But with time I'm warming to their charms - this car was so fast on the road it needed a careful touch and the 997 package feels so small after the GT-R.

It would have been nice to have a dry track, but sadly the excellent fellows at CircuitDays couldn't quite control the weather.

Turbo probably a closer match to GT-R
Turbo probably a closer match to GT-R
Before the evening event hosted by Circuit Days on the Indy circuit, I had a couple of very wet, slippery hours on the full Grand Prix track at anMSV event. For some reason I had never driven it before - what a brilliant, brilliant place it is.

Enjoy the vid.

 

 

 

 


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  • Grovsie26 21 May 2012

    Pretty sure a normal GT-R and 10k worth of brake/wheel aftermarket upgrade is a far better idea.

    Like Chris Says, 52k was amazing value for money 80+ doesn't seem quite so great.

  • elementad 21 May 2012

    manual4me said:
    elementad said:
    Your going to talk numbers though if someone asks you about it. What else would you reply? "it's so good because it has light weight wheels?".


    There's is ALWAYS a stepping stone and rivalry between cars and the GTR always HAS rubbed the back of the Porsche fans up. If this video was of the GTR and BMW M3 it would still bring the Porsche fans out the woodwork.

    As people have said, people criticising for being too clinical haven't driven it.

    The difference is that I'd imagine more of the enthusiasts would buy GTRs whereas with the Porsche you get a mixture of enthusiasts and MDs that know F All about cars just buy the Porsche like an Armani suit as a bit of bling.

    As much as a GTR is clinical, Porsche as a brand are boring.

    I also know that when I see a GTR in the flesh it's rare and you really look twice.
    I see that many Porsches (it doesn't matter what variant) i don't even flinch.

    It's all subjective
    You must live in a nice neighbourhood. Lots more Nissans on the roads around me, cant say I really look twice.

    Dont see many 911 turbos though. I guess its all subjective.
    Wigan

  • Fantuzzi 20 May 2012

    Good video. Ive always loved the look of the GTR in the flesh, looks like a real muscle car up close.

    Always look forward to Harris' videos.

  • manual4me 20 May 2012

    elementad said:
    Your going to talk numbers though if someone asks you about it. What else would you reply? "it's so good because it has light weight wheels?".


    There's is ALWAYS a stepping stone and rivalry between cars and the GTR always HAS rubbed the back of the Porsche fans up. If this video was of the GTR and BMW M3 it would still bring the Porsche fans out the woodwork.

    As people have said, people criticising for being too clinical haven't driven it.

    The difference is that I'd imagine more of the enthusiasts would buy GTRs whereas with the Porsche you get a mixture of enthusiasts and MDs that know F All about cars just buy the Porsche like an Armani suit as a bit of bling.

    As much as a GTR is clinical, Porsche as a brand are boring.

    I also know that when I see a GTR in the flesh it's rare and you really look twice.
    I see that many Porsches (it doesn't matter what variant) i don't even flinch.

    It's all subjective
    You must live in a nice neighbourhood. Lots more Nissans on the roads around me, cant say I really look twice.

    Dont see many 911 turbos though. I guess its all subjective.

  • tjlees 19 May 2012

    Phil. said:
    From memory it was the front radiators on the turbo that the increased the servicing costs. I also put on new discs/pads all round and a full set of OM tyres in addition to the £1.5k service costs. I was doing less than 5k miles per year and no track days. Servicing was at a specialist not OPC.

    Agree that depreciation in the first 3 years will be the biggest hit. I reckon on circa £10k pa. But with the warranty and servicing pre-paid, other than a set of tyres, the GTR shouldn't cost me any more over the 3 years unless I track it and I didn't buy it as a track car.

    I've compared the GTR performance over some local roads that I also drove the 996 Turbo and reckon it's around 15%-20% faster. A lot of that is due to the fantastic gearbox in the GTR. Every petrolhead should try a GTR in full R-mode wink
    Yep. GTR is epic on B roads and you can exploit all those horses. It's the only car I've driven where you can put everything into R mode without risk of automatic filling removal. Similar with 997.2 Turbo with its PDK and sport plus. Both Much better than 996 GT3 in terms suspension and imho better on the road than the 997.2 GT3 given tyres, bumps, cambers and general dampness of the uk roads. Still have a problem with GTR because of it's inside, it's looks and attention from 17yo spotty nosed boys as per evos - maybe better than Milf attention though!



    Edited by tjlees on Saturday 19th May 20:29

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