The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)

Tbh to Frank, he represents a very temperamental fighter; Fury's whole family are sensitive to criticism at the best of times. Unless Frank is prepared to put up an aggressive defence, Fury is likely to conclude he is 'one of the enemy', and hence he loses his key asset, and hence one of the big reasons Frank gets to put on the Saudi shows for 'His Excellency'. If I was Frank, as I would feel compelled to say the same type of things

The way pundits and promoters put Fury's bullstting and ishness down to "bipolar" is genuinely ableist. Bipolar causes major shifts in mood, energy and concentration. It doesn't make you a lying tt, that's all Fury.

Agreed

Tyson Fury and his father are just bad people plain and simple. You can't play the mental health card (which is rubbish as he was on the naughty step for being a drug cheat in his "crisis"... Chicken and egg?) and then make quite personal comments about opposition.

Furys trash talk game isn't even that good a lot of the fascination with him is just laughing at the stuff he says.

I've not really gone in on Fury after the loss it's extremely satisfying to see him beaten and it tells you everything that he blamed the war for his loss! In that situation any right minded person would have shown some humility after getting bashed about as he did.

Usyk has always been pure class to me he's more of an English gentleman than Fury or his appalling oaf of a father could ever dream about.

Can't see him taking the rematch it's obviously what he's going to say right now as it's a bargaining chip against Eddie for the AJ fight.

After Fury AJ the division is looking a bit bare the coming year or two will see Fury/AJ/Usyk/Wilder retire have we seen all we need to see from those fighters? The next batch of world champions is likely to be done middle of the road dudes like Dubois.....we need some fresh blood soon!

Prevailing theory over there is that boxing isn't as big as it used to be, while Basketball and NFL have grown, which attracts the athletes that might have previously pursued boxing and are HW sized.

Plus UFC is stealing a lot of the limelight

It would be interesting to know how many potential boxers are put off by how chaotically it's run.

I'd look at the mashup of fiefdoms, fixes, dead ends, agendas and pure murk and shop elsewhere too.

That makes sense.

It's not as if boxing is any less disgusting than it used to be, and is probably a fair bit more palatable.

By and large the gyms they went to don't exist anymore as well

Americans lose interest in anything they're not the best in the world at. It dents their belief in 'American Exceptionalism'.

If you're talking about America, erm...