The most under rated guitarist of all time?

The most under rated guitarist of all time?

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dojo

741 posts

137 months

Monday 10th June 2019
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So I think this guy is prob the MOST underrated.

I think he will go down as an all time great and and he probably has less followers than your teenage daughter!!!

Ladies and Gentlemen: virtuoso guitarist Pasquale Grasso


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgJiWC1sSfM

SR

241 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Just found this, unbelievable!!!
https://youtu.be/64T6ugyWXAA?si=JI0WqBoaUdipDRuH
Mississippi Fred McDowell.
Why isn’t he recognised as one of the greatest?

AdeTuono

7,276 posts

229 months

Thursday 16th May
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SR said:
Just found this, unbelievable!!!
https://youtu.be/64T6ugyWXAA?si=JI0WqBoaUdipDRuH
Mississippi Fred McDowell.
Why isn’t he recognised as one of the greatest?
Errrrrmmmm....because he's not? By a long stretch.

Stan the Bat

8,978 posts

214 months

Thursday 16th May
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AdeTuono said:
SR said:
Just found this, unbelievable!!!
https://youtu.be/64T6ugyWXAA?si=JI0WqBoaUdipDRuH
Mississippi Fred McDowell.
Why isn’t he recognised as one of the greatest?
Errrrrmmmm....because he's not? By a long stretch.
Agree with the comment, but I would much rather listen to him than all these 'amazing shredders' who are technically so much better.

SR

241 posts

207 months

Thursday 16th May
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Stan the Bat said:
AdeTuono said:
SR said:
Just found this, unbelievable!!!
https://youtu.be/64T6ugyWXAA?si=JI0WqBoaUdipDRuH
Mississippi Fred McDowell.
Why isn’t he recognised as one of the greatest?
Errrrrmmmm....because he's not? By a long stretch.
Agree with the comment, but I would much rather listen to him than all these 'amazing shredders' who are technically so much better.
I’m not at all musical, I wish I could play the guitar but to my ears that’s magic!

AdeTuono

7,276 posts

229 months

Thursday 16th May
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Stan the Bat said:
AdeTuono said:
SR said:
Just found this, unbelievable!!!
https://youtu.be/64T6ugyWXAA?si=JI0WqBoaUdipDRuH
Mississippi Fred McDowell.
Why isn’t he recognised as one of the greatest?
Errrrrmmmm....because he's not? By a long stretch.
Agree with the comment, but I would much rather listen to him than all these 'amazing shredders' who are technically so much better.
My point was that there are (and indeed, have been) far better slide guitarists. Robert Johnson for one, going back 90 years, and many, many more. And we've not touched on Rory Gallagher or Eric Sardinas. I know the video of MFM is only one track, but I've played in bands with more accomplished players.

Kinky

39,630 posts

271 months

Thursday 16th May
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AdeTuono said:
... Rory Gallagher ...
I came across this tonight. Mr. G guesting with Thin Lizzy in Köln back in 1979. Not that unique in itself; he was literally passing, driving through town coming back from a festival gig. However, what is unique is that he's playing Garys 'Greenie'!



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cherryowen

11,750 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th May
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AdeTuono said:
My point was that there are (and indeed, have been) far better slide guitarists. Robert Johnson for one, going back 90 years, and many, many more. And we've not touched on Rory Gallagher or Eric Sardinas. I know the video of MFM is only one track, but I've played in bands with more accomplished players.
Indeed.

I would imagine RJ's slide work and "back-picking" in the 1920's would be akin to EVH's work in the 1970's with his tremolo picking and tapping.

Talking of electric blues guitar, it could be said that Charlie Christian invented it and is both underrated and somewhat unknown.

Yahonza

1,693 posts

32 months

Friday 17th May
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I would agree that the delta blues players have a unique technique, also about Rory Gallagher.

My choice of underrated guitarist today - Gary Richrath - REO Speedwagon.
Here is a track from when they were a bit more of a hard rock band than an albeit very good rock ballad band.
He was all about feel and tone, classic Les Paul through Marshall here from Back on The Road Again. The first solo is very good, but the second outro solo is outstanding. Needs to be played loud.





Edited by Yahonza on Friday 17th May 18:57

cherryowen

11,750 posts

206 months

Friday 17th May
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Neal Schon was very good, IMO; melodic and tasteful :-




Super Sonic

5,204 posts

56 months

Friday 17th May
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Daniel Ash


DickyC

50,000 posts

200 months

Saturday 18th May
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Kinky said:
AdeTuono said:
... Rory Gallagher ...
I came across this tonight. Mr. G guesting with Thin Lizzy in Köln back in 1979. Not that unique in itself; he was literally passing, driving through town coming back from a festival gig. However, what is unique is that he's playing Garys 'Greenie'!



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Ah, I have just the name to collect up all that and get back on topic.

Eric Bell.

Acorn1

683 posts

22 months

Saturday 18th May
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Andy Summers

Robert 'Robin' Finck

Edited by Acorn1 on Saturday 18th May 19:19

W124

1,583 posts

140 months

Saturday 18th May
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Clarence White.

Composer62

1,717 posts

88 months

Saturday 18th May
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Andy Latimer.

cherryowen

11,750 posts

206 months

Saturday 18th May
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Composer62 said:
Andy Latimer.
Not a bad call, TBF





WindyCommon

3,389 posts

241 months

Saturday 18th May
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Big Stu.


Composer62

1,717 posts

88 months

Saturday 18th May
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cherryowen said:
Composer62 said:
Andy Latimer.
Not a bad call, TBF

Thanks, I really enjoyed Camel in that period and saw them live a couple of times in the Usher Hall in Edinburgh in the mid to late 70's (Making me feel very old now).

I also really liked their mid 80's "Stationary Traveller" album that seemed to capture the feel of a very particular period before the fall of the Berlin Wall. (You really needed to be there to capture the feel)

This song is a very different style but still very much Andy Latimer in full flow. Jeez, I wish I could go to a concert like that now, such amazing musicians all round (hang on till the end).




Lotobear

Original Poster:

6,509 posts

130 months

Monday 20th May
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Composer62 said:
cherryowen said:
Composer62 said:
Andy Latimer.
Not a bad call, TBF

Thanks, I really enjoyed Camel in that period and saw them live a couple of times in the Usher Hall in Edinburgh in the mid to late 70's (Making me feel very old now).

I also really liked their mid 80's "Stationary Traveller" album that seemed to capture the feel of a very particular period before the fall of the Berlin Wall. (You really needed to be there to capture the feel)

This song is a very different style but still very much Andy Latimer in full flow. Jeez, I wish I could go to a concert like that now, such amazing musicians all round (hang on till the end).

Saw Camel on many occassions back in the day most memorably on the Raindances tour with Richard Sinclair on bass (my most under rated bass player) and Mel Colins on sax and more recently (not long before Covid) in Newcastle (where he mentioned that his dad was a Geordie!). Andy looked quite frail but still has it - no one can make an instrument convey emotion in way he does, easily up there with Gilmour I would say.

sparkyhx

4,156 posts

206 months

Monday 20th May
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AdeTuono said:
Stan the Bat said:
AdeTuono said:
SR said:
Just found this, unbelievable!!!
https://youtu.be/64T6ugyWXAA?si=JI0WqBoaUdipDRuH
Mississippi Fred McDowell.
Why isn’t he recognised as one of the greatest?
Errrrrmmmm....because he's not? By a long stretch.
Agree with the comment, but I would much rather listen to him than all these 'amazing shredders' who are technically so much better.
My point was that there are (and indeed, have been) far better slide guitarists. Robert Johnson for one, going back 90 years, and many, many more. And we've not touched on Rory Gallagher or Eric Sardinas. I know the video of MFM is only one track, but I've played in bands with more accomplished players.
TBH I wasn't that impressed by that either. Many of these early bluesmen were untrained and learned by ear and potentially on 'upsidedown' guitars. They are near impossible to compare with more technical modern players. Where they excelled was in 'feel', saying more in one note than others do in a hundred.
But, perhaps because they were untrained, they were pioneers in techniques and sounds.

My personal favourite of the old timers was Lighnin' Hopkins who was cited by SRV, Hendrix which in their own right blow many out of the water.




Blues as a form, kind of allows that, its simplicity allows space for expression. So I suppose the question may also need to take 'great or underrated' as not just those with technical ability but also 'feeling'.

Also people like Roy Buchanan, who was recognised as possibly one of the greatest guitarists ever by his peers, who inspired some of the greatest guitarists (Beck, Moore, Bonamassa to name but a few). Roy was both technical, 'pioneered' pinch harmonics at will, creating sound effects manually that were later copied as pedals (Wah Wah). He could shred with the best, chicken pickin, flamenco style all visible in this epic video. Roy was 'recognised' by his peers but not by the public. Does that class as under rated? I don't know.



For those interested there is a documentary on Roy Buchanan - also known as the 'Greatest Unknown Guitarist in the world'.




Lonnie Mack is another underrated player (great voice as well). He's cited by SRV as a major influence. there are vids on youtube of the pair of them.


Also a 'docufilm' of Lonnie Mack, with Roy Buchanan and Albert Collins in concert
clip taken from the hr and a half of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt5lbQvBN2M

Then there are the many many session musicians, who are probably more capable and accomplished than many 'band' based guitarists, they definitely go under the radar.
e.g. Steve Lukather, Glen Campbell as part of the wrecking crew and later solo work (don't laugh, look him up),

Then there are people like the already mentioned Rory Gallagher, and people like Alvin Lee, Robin Trower, Walter Trout. so many






Edited by sparkyhx on Tuesday 21st May 10:21