2024 London Mayoral Election Thread

2024 London Mayoral Election Thread

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s1962a

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5,427 posts

164 months

Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
Youth funding? What is this? Bribery payments to stop inner city kids from stabbing people?

Kids outside of London manage without this. I wonder why?
Which Utopia (part of the UK) do you live in? Knife crime is a problem all over the UK unfortunately.


s1962a

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

164 months

Monday 29th January
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Billy_Rosewood said:
Susan Hall is an absolute shambles.

Sad times that she's the only alternative to the current crackpot who could have been an excellent mayor but seems more interested in cooking the books/shifting blame to try and leave a legacy that isn't record number of strikes and record knife crime.
She will get rid of ULEZ on day 1.. Day 1!!!!!

gt_12345

1,873 posts

37 months

Monday 29th January
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bhstewie said:
gt_12345 said:
Waycist?

What did she retweet/endorse?
Stuff like this.

https://x.com/LBC/status/1706960619788730560?s=20
Thank you for adding the link.

I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?

valiant

10,430 posts

162 months

Monday 29th January
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s1962a said:
She will get rid of ULEZ on day 1.. Day 1!!!!!
And still hasn't said how she'll replace the lost revenue.

z4RRSchris

11,358 posts

181 months

Monday 29th January
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s1962a said:
z4RRSchris said:
20 mph speed limits / ulez - the fact you think thats an issue is nuts
Do you drive? I'll give you an example - Streatham High road coming down from Brixton. It's 20mph all the way and it's difficult at night time to drive down this major road without going over 20mph. It's not a suitable road. 20mph around schools/side streets - absolutely fine, but not on major roads.

z4RRSchris said:
for me as a londoner i would like to see:

better funded transport, more ebike options
ban private cars from z1, higher CC and Ulez. Higher parking costs
pedestrianise oxford street - get more tourists spending cash
fund youth services better, will reduce petty crime
stop planning getting bogged down by locals, set it at a mayoral level London Plan and stick to it. If a site has 100m heigh and room for 500 homes thats what it gets. build 100% affordable on council land, there is st loads of it. Start a council DM
Totally respect your thoughts on this. Don't agree with banning cars from Z1, but do agree with the other points.

Knife crime, shoplifting, and low level unsocial behaviour. I don't care who does it, but this needs tackling. We need more police on the streets as a visible deterrent.
i do drive, its much easier to set blanket wide borough speed limits than have this road X and that road Y. but again the fact that you want to drive down the A23 at 40mph wont get you anywhere faster than if you drove down it at 20mph, there are lights every few hundred metres. Just relax, drive at 20 and listen to the radio.

knife crime and ASB root cause is kids not having things to do, or role models to look upto, becuase services have been cut to the bone. Locking people up in this regard isnt a deterant.

shoplifting because you need to eat is different from shoplifting for a living. The former needs macro social changes, the latter needs deporting

but all your points generally sound like angry daily mail gammon points driven up by a right wing media in order to distract a populous from real issues around an election.

Susan Hall is a joke candidate, shes there to help the tories outside london. not win the election which she has zero hope in hell of doing. She has about as much compassion to those who struggle in inner city london as a dog turd.

s1962a

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

164 months

Monday 29th January
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valiant said:
s1962a said:
She will get rid of ULEZ on day 1.. Day 1!!!!!
And still hasn't said how she'll replace the lost revenue.
Easy. She'll just repurpose it from the other less important areas. You do know that ULEZ is the most important thing for Londonders right??

Murph7355

37,847 posts

258 months

Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
Because all those with the money (who work Mon to Thurs in the office) can't wait to escape to the Cotswalds Thursday night

Because London is such a dump
London's a great place. But so are the Cotswolds.

I'm not sure anyone changing their travel patterns over a £2 fare discount is going to be boosting the London economy massively, but who knows what people think and do.

SK and the other candidates are just like the cretins in the HoP...only with Napoleon syndrome.

s1962a

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

164 months

Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
laugh

Seasonal Hero

7,954 posts

54 months

Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
Thank you for adding the link.

I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
Google will help you educate yourself here.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

37 months

Monday 29th January
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Murph7355 said:
gt_12345 said:
Because all those with the money (who work Mon to Thurs in the office) can't wait to escape to the Cotswalds Thursday night

Because London is such a dump
London's a great place. But so are the Cotswolds.

I'm not sure anyone changing their travel patterns over a £2 fare discount is going to be boosting the London economy massively, but who knows what people think and do.

SK and the other candidates are just like the cretins in the HoP...only with Napoleon syndrome.
Most of London isn't.

It only peaked because people had to be in the office. Now they dont (wfh etc) people can't wait to move.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

37 months

Monday 29th January
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Seasonal Hero said:
gt_12345 said:
Thank you for adding the link.

I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
Google will help you educate yourself here.
You're the one with the problem. You tell me the part which you think is really bad?

gt_12345

1,873 posts

37 months

Monday 29th January
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s1962a said:
gt_12345 said:
I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
laugh
That's your response?

s1962a

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

164 months

Monday 29th January
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z4RRSchris said:
i do drive, its much easier to set blanket wide borough speed limits than have this road X and that road Y. but again the fact that you want to drive down the A23 at 40mph wont get you anywhere faster than if you drove down it at 20mph, there are lights every few hundred metres. Just relax, drive at 20 and listen to the radio.
They aren't blanketly enforced though. You could be driving down a quiet side road and it's 30mph, and then go into a main road and it's 20mph. Probably different councils and it's not joined up. For me, 20mph is fine for side roads and near schools, but not for main roads.

z4RRSchris said:
knife crime and ASB root cause is kids not having things to do, or role models to look upto, becuase services have been cut to the bone. Locking people up in this regard isnt a deterant.
I grew up in a very rough part of London, and can see how knife crime has got worse, and agree that reducing services has not helped. An adequate deterrent has not helped either. Did you grow up in London?

z4RRSchris said:
shoplifting because you need to eat is different from shoplifting for a living. The former needs macro social changes, the latter needs deporting
Yes, I see that difference too, and the shoplifting i've seen in person from major shops is more opportunist and "organised crime" than a homeless person grabbing something to eat. What has your experience been of this?

z4RRSchris said:
but all your points generally sound like angry daily mail gammon points driven up by a right wing media in order to distract a populous from real issues around an election.
For me having spent my whole life here, and having not had much and working hard, I can see what the issues are around me. We can differ on some of these points, but having security of housing, personal safety, and cost of living are big issues we need to fix. The gap between the have have-nots is getting bigger all the time.

z4RRSchris said:
Susan Hall is a joke candidate, shes there to help the tories outside london. not win the election which she has zero hope in hell of doing. She has about as much compassion to those who struggle in inner city london as a dog turd.
Yep

s1962a

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

164 months

Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
s1962a said:
gt_12345 said:
I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
laugh
That's your response?
This wasn't your attempt at sarcastic humour?

gt_12345

1,873 posts

37 months

Monday 29th January
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z4RRSchris said:
knife crime and ASB root cause is kids not having things to do, or role models to look upto, becuase services have been cut to the bone. Locking people up in this regard isnt a deterant.
And yet kids in poor areas outside of London have no problems?

In fact certain kids inside London have no problems. But best we don't go there.... eh?

gt_12345

1,873 posts

37 months

Monday 29th January
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s1962a said:
gt_12345 said:
s1962a said:
gt_12345 said:
I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
laugh
That's your response?
This wasn't your attempt at sarcastic humour?
No, I'm asking what did he say that was factually incorrect?

z4RRSchris

11,358 posts

181 months

Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
z4RRSchris said:
knife crime and ASB root cause is kids not having things to do, or role models to look upto, becuase services have been cut to the bone. Locking people up in this regard isnt a deterant.
And yet kids in poor areas outside of London have no problems?

In fact certain kids inside London have no problems. But best we don't go there.... eh?
poor kids in london growing up on estates, where dealing is rife, much easier to follow the bigger kids into that.

much harder to get involved in postcode wars in Dorset, cant really see the inner city youth of Devizes starting beef with Potterne. Its too far away for a start.

s1962a

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

164 months

Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
And yet kids in poor areas outside of London have no problems?
Which is not true. Knife crime is the most prevalent in London, but it is a scourge all across the UK.

gt_12345 said:
In fact certain kids inside London have no problems. But best we don't go there.... eh?
Go on.. which parts of London have no problems with knife crime? No doubt you'll be telling me that Hendon and areas around there have little crime. This might be true as I have a mate who lives around there and he pays for security to patrol the area. Something that would be good to have in other parts if we could afford it.

What part of the UK do you live in?

bitchstewie

51,939 posts

212 months

Monday 29th January
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gt_12345 said:
bhstewie said:
gt_12345 said:
Waycist?

What did she retweet/endorse?
Stuff like this.

https://x.com/LBC/status/1706960619788730560?s=20
Thank you for adding the link.

I don't know his entire speech (in case he also said something outrageous) but didn't he simply say cultures clash and there will be rivers of blood?
You conveniently ignored the "Londonistan" part.

Plus a quick 2 minutes on Google would show it's a little more than a one-off i.e. https://www.itv.com/news/london/2023-09-15/tory-ma...

z4RRSchris

11,358 posts

181 months

Monday 29th January
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s1962a said:
z4RRSchris said:
i do drive, its much easier to set blanket wide borough speed limits than have this road X and that road Y. but again the fact that you want to drive down the A23 at 40mph wont get you anywhere faster than if you drove down it at 20mph, there are lights every few hundred metres. Just relax, drive at 20 and listen to the radio.
They aren't blanketly enforced though. You could be driving down a quiet side road and it's 30mph, and then go into a main road and it's 20mph. Probably different councils and it's not joined up. For me, 20mph is fine for side roads and near schools, but not for main roads.

z4RRSchris said:
knife crime and ASB root cause is kids not having things to do, or role models to look upto, becuase services have been cut to the bone. Locking people up in this regard isnt a deterant.
I grew up in a very rough part of London, and can see how knife crime has got worse, and agree that reducing services has not helped. An adequate deterrent has not helped either. Did you grow up in London?

z4RRSchris said:
shoplifting because you need to eat is different from shoplifting for a living. The former needs macro social changes, the latter needs deporting
Yes, I see that difference too, and the shoplifting i've seen in person from major shops is more opportunist and "organised crime" than a homeless person grabbing something to eat. What has your experience been of this?

z4RRSchris said:
but all your points generally sound like angry daily mail gammon points driven up by a right wing media in order to distract a populous from real issues around an election.
For me having spent my whole life here, and having not had much and working hard, I can see what the issues are around me. We can differ on some of these points, but having security of housing, personal safety, and cost of living are big issues we need to fix. The gap between the have have-nots is getting bigger all the time.

z4RRSchris said:
Susan Hall is a joke candidate, shes there to help the tories outside london. not win the election which she has zero hope in hell of doing. She has about as much compassion to those who struggle in inner city london as a dog turd.
Yep
I moved to London when i was 17, i lived for 15 years in tower hamlets, which as im sure you know is the poorest borough, highest social bill, highest youth unemployment, highest disparity between rich and poor etc etc etc. Its rife with drug dealing, dependency, etc etc.

"knife crime" in london is mostly gang on gang. kids fighting. they should be other options for them than being told to shot weed and heroin for someone else and handed a knife. the less you spend on other options, the more knife crime there is.