Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?

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kimducati

346 posts

166 months

Thursday 16th May
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TheDeuce said:
The truth is more likely to be that Lewis's talents were fairly evident and probably attracted a lot of attention fairly early on - people do tend to notice if a kid suddenly starts doing something remarkable and many of the 'nobody's' Lewis encountered in his very early days probably had connections to 'somebodys' in motorsport that had gone on to work at higher levels of the sport and had more influence.

If Ron hadn't found him/been there to be approached, it's likely soon enough someone else would have shown some interest.

It won't be as clear cut as the fantasy diamond in the rough tale, it never is. All that we know for sure is that F1 teams know how valuable snapping up a future talent is and they're on the lookout. If a young driver (and their Dad) is also doing all they possibly can to display their talent and make connections, it's likely the two will eventually have an encounter.
Whilst this may have been a possible scenario twenty five years or so ago (when Lewis was in karting) I really don't see it happening now.
Money will trump talent - the 'top' teams, those with the ear of the manufacturers, and who get all of the latest upgrades are unaffordable for all but the seriously rich nowadays.
The seriously talented, but cash poor privateer doesn't have a hope of anything other than the occasional day of glory. It has always been thus.
I seem to recall that Martin Hines of Zip Kart was the conduit between Lewis and Ron Dennis. He (Dennis) and Martin Hines apparently went back a long way which may explain why Lewis was given that chance.
Kim

Kart16

385 posts

10 months

Thursday 16th May
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Sandpit Steve said:
Wasn’t there a karting thread on here some time back, that discussed some parents putting £100k a season into UK cadets? Fulltime mechanic, big motorhome truck, and loads of new parts for every race to try and get an edge. That’s totally nuts. One can understand that if you’re in European juniors aged 14 or 15, the bills come in thick and fast, but such a high price of competitive entry for the eight-year-olds seems totally bonkers.
You can spend easily 350k euro per year on a 12/15-year old kid if he/she races the European championships.


Edited by Kart16 on Thursday 16th May 18:00


Edited by Kart16 on Thursday 16th May 21:24

Kart16

385 posts

10 months

Thursday 16th May
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SpudLink said:
I'm sure I watched sometnig where Jos Verstappen effectivly created a professional karting team to support Max at the start.
Not really. In the beginning Max raced under the Pex racing team, a family run team whose current owners are Max childhood friends. Later, when Max was racing in the European championship, he joined regular factory teams.

Edited by Kart16 on Thursday 16th May 21:26

Yazza54

18,725 posts

183 months

Thursday 16th May
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Kart16 said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Wasn’t there a karting thread on here some time back, that discussed some parents putting £100k a season into UK cadets? Fulltime mechanic, big motorhome truck, and loads of new parts for every race to try and get an edge. That’s totally nuts. One can understand that if you’re in European juniors aged 14 or 15, the bills come in thick and fast, but such a high price of competitive entry for the eight-year-olds seems totally bonkers.
You can spend easily 350k euro per year on a 12/15-year old kid per year if he/she races the European championships.


Edited by Kart16 on Thursday 16th May 18:00
And this is the sort of level you need to be at to get anyone worth taking note to do so.... Hence my comment about relative shoestrings. One man earning 500k a year and spunking 350k if it on his kids racing may consider that a shoestring when he's up against the Mazepins of the world.. but Mr 500k is still a long way away from normal


It's clear who in here has been on the inside of the racing world and who hasn't. Not trying to divisive or aggressive but the rose tinted views really wind me up.

Edited by Yazza54 on Thursday 16th May 18:14

isaldiri

18,812 posts

170 months

Thursday 16th May
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Yazza54 said:
It's clear who in here has been on the inside of the racing world and who hasn't. Not trying to divisive or aggressive but the rose tinted views really wind me up.
Hush now - can't have you puncturing that nice story by pointing out shoestrings in the motorsport world still means rather serious amounts of dosh right.....?

RacerMike

4,232 posts

213 months

Friday 17th May
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isaldiri said:
Yazza54 said:
It's clear who in here has been on the inside of the racing world and who hasn't. Not trying to divisive or aggressive but the rose tinted views really wind me up.
Hush now - can't have you puncturing that nice story by pointing out shoestrings in the motorsport world still means rather serious amounts of dosh right.....?
Yeah and definitely don’t mention the fact that Lewis’ Dad worked multiple jobs to bolster his fairly decent salary as an IT consultant so they could buy brand new karts, engines and a motor home because that definitely doesn’t sit well with the ‘poor kid from Hertfordshire’ vibe!

Sadly to get ‘spotted’ you need a great deal of money. I spent a solid £50-60k racing Caterhams to then luck into some proper sponsorship money, and I’d have never even been on anyone’s radar if I hadn’t been in the position I’d put myself in. And once that sponsor had to pull out, I didn’t have a queue of prospective people lining up to replace him despite relative success and apparent talent/pace.

Leithen

11,116 posts

269 months

Yesterday (23:04)
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Pole!

woohoo

Sandpit Steve

10,402 posts

76 months

Yesterday (23:12)
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Leithen said:
Pole!

woohoo
woohoo

Harry Flatters

153 posts

260 months

Yesterday (23:19)
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Brilliant job Jamie!

asfault

12,379 posts

181 months

RacerMike said:
isaldiri said:
Yazza54 said:
It's clear who in here has been on the inside of the racing world and who hasn't. Not trying to divisive or aggressive but the rose tinted views really wind me up.
Hush now - can't have you puncturing that nice story by pointing out shoestrings in the motorsport world still means rather serious amounts of dosh right.....?
Yeah and definitely don’t mention the fact that Lewis’ Dad worked multiple jobs to bolster his fairly decent salary as an IT consultant so they could buy brand new karts, engines and a motor home because that definitely doesn’t sit well with the ‘poor kid from Hertfordshire’ vibe!

Sadly to get ‘spotted’ you need a great deal of money. I spent a solid £50-60k racing Caterhams to then luck into some proper sponsorship money, and I’d have never even been on anyone’s radar if I hadn’t been in the position I’d put myself in. And once that sponsor had to pull out, I didn’t have a queue of prospective people lining up to replace him despite relative success and apparent talent/pace.
I'm sure you a talanted but is the caterham route ever a route further up the motorsports ranks?