The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

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ralphrj

3,545 posts

193 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I think that it may be indicating that the Mercedes and Red Bull seats are not an option so better to stick with what he has.

Looking a bit like 2025 will see Perez continue at Red Bull and Sainz move to Mercedes.

People talk about multi year deals vs one year deals but the Hamilton move to Ferrari shows that not every multi year deal is as committed as teams/drivers may like everyone to think.

andburg

7,371 posts

171 months

Wednesday 15th May
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probably mileage in merc keeping him at Williams as a yardstick and placing Antonelli alongside

deadslow

8,043 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th May
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andburg said:
Supersam83 said:
Albon re-signing with Williams means that Red Bull are keeping Perez then.
not sure on that jump! RBR are not short of driver to put in that seat.

It could be a suggestion that Merc will take Sainz as I'm not sure who else they'd want.
if Merc can get Sainz. Their car is a pigsty-going-backwards.

Hustle_

24,781 posts

162 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Merc are going to go for Antonelli. Sainz, sadly, has a choice between Audi or sabbatical IMO.

Williams' Sargeant replacement will be somewhat interesting... Sauber refugees? Gasly? Lawson? Young driver of some kind?

Edited by Hustle_ on Wednesday 15th May 11:02

Sandpit Steve

10,329 posts

76 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Agree that Albon staying at Williams means Perez is staying at Red Bull, so Sainz and Verstappen will take the places at Mercedes and Red Bull, but might be the other way around than we expect, and Sargeant will make way for Antonelli at Williams with Albon as a benchmark.

SpudLink

5,980 posts

194 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Have to feel a bit sorry for Albon. He's shows that he deserves to be in a better car. It seems his role now is a benchmark to assess young drivers on their way up the career ladder.

ajprice

27,752 posts

198 months

Wednesday 15th May
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SpudLink said:
Have to feel a bit sorry for Albon. He's shows that he deserves to be in a better car. It seems his role now is a benchmark to assess young drivers on their way up the career ladder.
Better than being a Red Bull reserve and 're-enacting' Hamilton's racing line at a Silverstone filming day...

Leithen

11,082 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Sainz to race WEC for Ferrari in 2025, then back into the F1 team replacing Leclerc in 2026. wink

thegreenhell

15,653 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th May
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SpudLink said:
Have to feel a bit sorry for Albon. He's shows that he deserves to be in a better car. It seems his role now is a benchmark to assess young drivers on their way up the career ladder.
I never feel sorry for someone paid millions to race an F1 car.

Hustle_

24,781 posts

162 months

Wednesday 15th May
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SpudLink said:
Have to feel a bit sorry for Albon. He's shows that he deserves to be in a better car. It seems his role now is a benchmark to assess young drivers on their way up the career ladder.
I think the Williams will be a better race car. I don't think Alpine, HAAS, Sauber or even Toro Rosso are necessarily a better place to be in the short to medium term. Williams are taking a lot of pain this year to modernise the team, and when all of that work yields results they'll have a much stronger base.

usn90

1,426 posts

72 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Not sure why people are surprised, Albon was going nowhere near one of the top seats, and thankfully so.

Supersam83

651 posts

147 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Latest update after Alex Albon’s re-signing:


Still Mulling

12,612 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I can't remember the last time there were so many unsecured places for the following season.

Mark-C

5,207 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Still Mulling said:
I can't remember the last time there were so many unsecured places for the following season.
I think the filling in of the blanks at Mercedes and Red Bull will drive everything else that happens.

Also the Aston Martin (if actually available) and Sauber gaps are good looking seats for drivers with long-term aspirations

entropy

5,487 posts

205 months

Wednesday 15th May
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SpudLink said:
Have to feel a bit sorry for Albon. He's shows that he deserves to be in a better car. It seems his role now is a benchmark to assess young drivers on their way up the career ladder.
Probably just another Fisi - great in a midfield team, lacklustre in a top team. Would be interesting to see him against Tsunoda, Gasly, Ocon, maybe Piastri. I suspect there isn't much between them in terms of race pace apart from Piastri I see being quicker in quali.

entropy

5,487 posts

205 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Hustle_ said:
I think the Williams will be a better race car. I don't think Alpine, HAAS, Sauber or even Toro Rosso are necessarily a better place to be in the short to medium term. Williams are taking a lot of pain this year to modernise the team, and when all of that work yields results they'll have a much stronger base.
How long will that take? We've had the fuss over cap-ex over the past 12 months and more recently the team being run by bean counters being exposed; unless the financial constraints are loosened Williams will always be on the back foot.

SmoothCriminal

5,082 posts

201 months

Wednesday 15th May
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usn90 said:
Not sure why people are surprised, Albon was going nowhere near one of the top seats, and thankfully so.
Exactly just because he is likeable and a "brit" he gets hyped up like he is some kind of super star.

Has won nothing of merit In his career, was sacked by redbull and then luckily brought back because they burnt through all their young drivers.

Got a chance in the Red Bull and couldn't handle it.

He's lucky to have a seat in f1 when theirs drivers like Bearman and Lawson without one.

usn90

1,426 posts

72 months

Wednesday 15th May
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SmoothCriminal said:
usn90 said:
Not sure why people are surprised, Albon was going nowhere near one of the top seats, and thankfully so.
Exactly just because he is likeable and a "brit" he gets hyped up like he is some kind of super star.

Has won nothing of merit In his career, was sacked by redbull and then luckily brought back because they burnt through all their young drivers.

Got a chance in the Red Bull and couldn't handle it.

He's lucky to have a seat in f1 when theirs drivers like Bearman and Lawson without one.
Short memories in f1, he was thrown out of Redbull after having his arse slapped in all manner of positions by max, two bad teammates later and he’s apparently worthy of taking up one of the top teams cars.

He’s taken the Williams offer because it’s most likely the best he was going to get, Albon doesn’t even feature in the top 10 on the current grid, let alone those trying to get on it.

Forester1965

1,852 posts

5 months

Wednesday 15th May
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He melted under the heat of a front running team. That won't be forgotten by TPs as quickly as it is the fans.

ThingsBehindTheSun

267 posts

33 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Sandpit Steve said:
Agree that Albon staying at Williams means Perez is staying at Red Bull, so Sainz and Verstappen will take the places at Mercedes and Red Bull, but might be the other way around than we expect, and Sargeant will make way for Antonelli at Williams with Albon as a benchmark.
I agree and said this earlier in the thread. There has already been an application to ask if Anonelli could be granted a super licence despite being 17 and not having a road driving licence (didn't even know this was a requirement)

Surely Bearman to Haas is a certainty, the only question is will KMag keep his seat.