A coalition looks nailed on but who will be the bed partners
Discussion
MaxFromage said:
Grumps. said:
Hang on, I thought Labour had this all sewn up?
The GE is a long way off. First it was a shoe-in, now people are talking about coalitions. Sir Keir is trying his best to lose. All it'll take is a few Tory sweeteners and it'll be all to play for IMO.paulw123 said:
MaxFromage said:
Grumps. said:
Hang on, I thought Labour had this all sewn up?
The GE is a long way off. First it was a shoe-in, now people are talking about coalitions. Sir Keir is trying his best to lose. All it'll take is a few Tory sweeteners and it'll be all to play for IMO.The Tories disasterous result on Thursday, shows the contempt towards them.
Infighting will result.
In what universe is a coalition nailed on?
The tories are going to get dumped in the brown stuff from a great height, labour will gain a majority, the snp will implode in a bitter fiht about expenses, motorhomed and independnce, and the greens will lose focus and start knitting socks from quinoa
The tories are going to get dumped in the brown stuff from a great height, labour will gain a majority, the snp will implode in a bitter fiht about expenses, motorhomed and independnce, and the greens will lose focus and start knitting socks from quinoa
The election is still a long way away if you ask me.
They had to expect a mailing in the locals but the shift from blue to red was not as apparent as they thought it would be. That to me says a lot of folk voted as a protest rather than an actual shift in beliefs.
I would have thought it’s safest to assume we don’t know anything about the GE at this stage and all results are possible.
Ie we know less about Starmers likely manifesto than ever - a lot will depend on what labour decide to say come the time.
Equally, (unlikely I know) if the economy somehow demonstrates a recovery in time for the GE, then that could play in to Rishi’s hands.
I think the only thing we do know about a GE campaign at this stage is that it’s going to be messy..
They had to expect a mailing in the locals but the shift from blue to red was not as apparent as they thought it would be. That to me says a lot of folk voted as a protest rather than an actual shift in beliefs.
I would have thought it’s safest to assume we don’t know anything about the GE at this stage and all results are possible.
Ie we know less about Starmers likely manifesto than ever - a lot will depend on what labour decide to say come the time.
Equally, (unlikely I know) if the economy somehow demonstrates a recovery in time for the GE, then that could play in to Rishi’s hands.
I think the only thing we do know about a GE campaign at this stage is that it’s going to be messy..
valiant said:
paulw123 said:
Now Rishi has steadied the ship and nobody, even the man himself, knows what labour stands for the gap will close up
Tories lose 1000+ seats.Rishi has steadied the ship.
People are unhappy and have lost faith, they think a change of govt will make it all better again, I doubt that is true but for me I think Labour will get in and have a good old spend up to give us 10 yrs of recovery and boom and then a big crash…I hope they have a spend up on the potholed roads.
fat80b said:
The election is still a long way away if you ask me.
They had to expect a mailing in the locals but the shift from blue to red was not as apparent as they thought it would be. That to me says a lot of folk voted as a protest rather than an actual shift in beliefs.
I would have thought it’s safest to assume we don’t know anything about the GE at this stage and all results are possible.
Ie we know less about Starmers likely manifesto than ever - a lot will depend on what labour decide to say come the time.
Equally, (unlikely I know) if the economy somehow demonstrates a recovery in time for the GE, then that could play in to Rishi’s hands.
I think the only thing we do know about a GE campaign at this stage is that it’s going to be messy..
The Conservatives had three things going for them at the last election.They had to expect a mailing in the locals but the shift from blue to red was not as apparent as they thought it would be. That to me says a lot of folk voted as a protest rather than an actual shift in beliefs.
I would have thought it’s safest to assume we don’t know anything about the GE at this stage and all results are possible.
Ie we know less about Starmers likely manifesto than ever - a lot will depend on what labour decide to say come the time.
Equally, (unlikely I know) if the economy somehow demonstrates a recovery in time for the GE, then that could play in to Rishi’s hands.
I think the only thing we do know about a GE campaign at this stage is that it’s going to be messy..
- Brexit
- Johnson
- Corbyn
You're right it's going to be messy and I have no idea what Starmer stands for but equally I have no idea what Sunak stands for.
I think it will be messy.
I think the chance of a Tory majority is under-priced.
But I think a Labour majority is still the most likely outcome. Two factors not talked about enough:
- The Northern “red wall” will swing back to Labour quickly. A lot of those votes were not “pro-Tory”, they were “anti-Corbyn”, and the Conservatives are on very slim majorities.
- Any seats the SNP lose in Scotland will go Labour
But I think a Labour majority is still the most likely outcome. Two factors not talked about enough:
- The Northern “red wall” will swing back to Labour quickly. A lot of those votes were not “pro-Tory”, they were “anti-Corbyn”, and the Conservatives are on very slim majorities.
- Any seats the SNP lose in Scotland will go Labour
Vanden Saab said:
so it is a nailed on certainty SNP if possible
Not a chance. The SNP are damaged goods thanks to the lingering odour of financial malpractice. That saga still has some time left to run with the outcome a potential bombshell, what with dodgy last-minute auditors and on-going police investigations.Nothing is “nailed on” politically….e.g. at the last election the Tories won such a big majority there was no way back for Labour at this upcoming election according tot all the experts.
Voting patterns have changed massively in the last ten years…who the hell knows what will happen in the next year,
Voting patterns have changed massively in the last ten years…who the hell knows what will happen in the next year,
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