Do I need a compo face?
Discussion
Rufus Stone said:
Is PH in agreement then, no compo warranted?
For one of the first times in recorded history, it looks so!Sorry about the little one OP and hope they heal up fast and fully.
Afraid this is life, accidents happen. If, buts and maybes won’t change anything. If you’d have been paying abit more attention, if the server had placed them a few inches more off centre…. Blaming anyone won’t help but your dreams of 5 figure pay days are just that, dreams. Even the Solicitors have told you as much. Move on, focus on getting the little one back to health.
When I was a kid on Holiday, I tripped at the pool cutting my head open. Was it the resorts fault for leaving something laying about or was it my Dads fault for not watching me closely enough? (Actually my fault) Judging from my Mums reaction, my Dad was solely to blame and didn’t hear the end of it for years.
First off, very sorry your child got hurt, and I hope they recover.
Second, why would you expect a waitress to place drinks far away from the children? You might say this is 'common sense' but most common sense things come with experience. If the waitress does not have children then they probably have no idea what they are capable of. When I think of the things that have happened to ours once and then never again because we then knew to be aware of them a second time around I am suprised they are still alive and have all their limbs.....
Best wishes to your little one, I really hope they recover well.
Second, why would you expect a waitress to place drinks far away from the children? You might say this is 'common sense' but most common sense things come with experience. If the waitress does not have children then they probably have no idea what they are capable of. When I think of the things that have happened to ours once and then never again because we then knew to be aware of them a second time around I am suprised they are still alive and have all their limbs.....
Best wishes to your little one, I really hope they recover well.
MightyBadger said:
The dad clearing a space for it to be set down clearly indicates its safe to receive goods and they are in control, do waitresses have to now second guess peoples parenting skills?
Going round in circles, time to step away. Have a top day.
The waitress didn't put the tray down in the space I cleared.Going round in circles, time to step away. Have a top day.
Edited by MightyBadger on Wednesday 1st May 12:05
3 or 4 of your posts have stated she did. Maybe Morrisons could call you as a witness.
Hondashark said:
The waitress didn't put the tray down in the space I cleared.
3 or 4 of your posts have stated she did. Maybe Morrisons could call you as a witness.
Shame there is no ccvt - you could be rich!3 or 4 of your posts have stated she did. Maybe Morrisons could call you as a witness.
''''' I saw the lady coming with the tea so I picked a couple of books that were in front of me so she could put the tray down'''''''
Probably a good time to draw us all a picture so we can see whats what?
Baby sat in chair, no table on chair so you have to pull it up to table to stop baby falling out forwards.
Area infront of baby clear as they grab everything in sight. I'm sat opposite with 2 christmas gifts from santa infront of me (books). Waitress coming so move books so she could put the tray infront of a parent in newly cleared space.
Tray placed in centre of table half in both spaces.
The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
Wierd how angry people got when I said how would they feel if I put boiling water in reach of their baby. Almost as if they'd be blaming me and not themselves.
Area infront of baby clear as they grab everything in sight. I'm sat opposite with 2 christmas gifts from santa infront of me (books). Waitress coming so move books so she could put the tray infront of a parent in newly cleared space.
Tray placed in centre of table half in both spaces.
The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
Wierd how angry people got when I said how would they feel if I put boiling water in reach of their baby. Almost as if they'd be blaming me and not themselves.
Hondashark said:
Baby sat in chair, no table on chair so you have to pull it up to table to stop baby falling out forwards.
UnderstoodHondashark said:
Area infront of baby clear as they grab everything in sight.
Yes, they do that.Hondashark said:
I'm sat opposite with 2 christmas gifts from santa infront of me (books). Waitress coming s move books so she could put the tray infront of a parent in newly cleared space.
Understood. Did you articulate this to the waitress?Hondashark said:
Tray placed in centre of table half in both spaces.
In absence of asking her to place it elsewhere, placing a tray in the middle of a table does not seem reasonable.Hondashark said:
The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
I hope it helps. Therapy/counselling can be a long journey.Hondashark said:
Wierd how angry people got when I said how would they feel if I put boiling water in reach of their baby. Almost as if they'd be blaming me and not themselves.
I think people are being pragmatic. Placing the tray in the middle of the table is perfectly reasonable. Now the waitress could have asked if you wanted it anywhere in particular. Equally you could have said "please can you put it just there - thanks" I don't see any liability for Morrisons. I do read of a parent who is angry / guilty / looking for options. It's a tough place to be in from something I can empathise with (see my prior post).
Hondashark said:
Wierd how angry people got when I said how would they feel if I put boiling water in reach of their baby. Almost as if they'd be blaming me and not themselves.
If I had ordered the boiling water and saw you coming with it, I would immediately move it towards me - No problemHondashark said:
Baby sat in chair, no table on chair so you have to pull it up to table to stop baby falling out forwards.
Area infront of baby clear as they grab everything in sight. I'm sat opposite with 2 christmas gifts from santa infront of me (books). Waitress coming so move books so she could put the tray infront of a parent in newly cleared space.
Tray placed in centre of table half in both spaces.
The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
Wierd how angry people got when I said how would they feel if I put boiling water in reach of their baby. Almost as if they'd be blaming me and not themselves.
I'm not angry, it's nothing to do with me. I'm just here as you posted it on a forum looking for opinions.Area infront of baby clear as they grab everything in sight. I'm sat opposite with 2 christmas gifts from santa infront of me (books). Waitress coming so move books so she could put the tray infront of a parent in newly cleared space.
Tray placed in centre of table half in both spaces.
The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
Wierd how angry people got when I said how would they feel if I put boiling water in reach of their baby. Almost as if they'd be blaming me and not themselves.
The moment you saw the lady coming with the hot fluids would of been the ideal moment to make sure all children are clear from grabbing anything from the table before anything was set down (you were distracted and things just happen sometimes), books and other debris on the table would of took second priority. I'm sure the waitress wouldn't of minded waiting a moment or two, likewise I'm sure she wouldn't of minded if you had asked her to move the tea to somewhere that you thought was safer. All in all an unfortunate moment in time, an accident.
Hope everyone recovers well, peace.
Hondashark said:
Thankfully solicitors are of a different opinion to the bellends blaming us.
Our daughter was in a position of safety and while we were distracted someone put her in danger.
That is fully blameable and rightly deserving of compensation. The issue is proving it when you have no CCTV evidence.
Surely this is a troll post? It's a horrible accident, but I fail to see negligence. Fully blameable? Rightly deserving of compensation? Give your head a wobble - you are miles off here. Our daughter was in a position of safety and while we were distracted someone put her in danger.
That is fully blameable and rightly deserving of compensation. The issue is proving it when you have no CCTV evidence.
Accidents happen, only you the parent can foresee the actions of your child etc. I can guarantee pre-kids, if I was working in Morrisons café, I would not even begin to comprehend what a child can and can't do.
AHarrison said:
Mont Blanc said:
.... he should have anticipated that a DILLIGAF minimum wage server in a Morrisons cafe is never going to display any common sense or care...
With the greatest of respect - and as a minimum wage slave myself - this offensive comment makes you sound like an arrogant, pompous t
t.t.But it is based on my experiences of working in such an environment and being served as a customer in such an environment.
I worked in a hotel as a uni student, mostly serving breakfasts and cleaning, and I was always polite, helpful, and pleasant towards guests despite being on minimum wage, however most of my colleagues seemed to hate their jobs or took little to no care in their work.
As a customer I have received so much sub-standard service over the years in places staffed by minimum-wagers, that I have come to expect mediocracy. I am not saying this is anyones fault, just that it happens and should be taken into account.
Hondashark said:
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The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
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This might be worth keeping an eye on. Out of interest, did you blame your wife at all for the accident? Maybe in an argument or when discussing what happened? The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
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I presume the idea of compensation is an effort to try and 'make amends' by proving to your wife that the accident wasn't her fault, and that you tried your best to hold someone to account.
I think it's important to keep reminding your wife about the old adage (as it definitely applies in this case).... "it could have been much, much worse". Viewed in that context, your daughter was actually lucky. That's the way I would be trying to deal with it.
MightyBadger said:
Antony Moxey said:
As I said above, both sides could have done more to avoid the situation.
No, one side could of done something to prevent this terrible accident.Sounds like you are a blame claimer too.
I couldn't help itAntony Moxey said:
Oh shut up you idiot. So you're saying there's not a single thing the server could have done. Not one.
Calm down dearest 
Nobody on the the table told her not to set the hot drinks down, nobody on the table asked her to move the hot drinks. She isn't the childs parent.
Maybe if she had of stayed in bed and not gone to work another waitress would be dealing with exactly the same issue?
This wasn't her fault, lets do a poll.
Hondashark said:
Baby sat in chair, no table on chair so you have to pull it up to table to stop baby falling out forwards.
Area infront of baby clear as they grab everything in sight. I'm sat opposite with 2 christmas gifts from santa infront of me (books). Waitress coming so move books so she could put the tray infront of a parent in newly cleared space.
Tray placed in centre of table half in both spaces.
The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
Wierd how angry people got when I said how would they feel if I put boiling water in reach of their baby. Almost as if they'd be blaming me and not themselves.
I think your emotion about the incident is not allowing you to be objective. This is perfectly understandable.Area infront of baby clear as they grab everything in sight. I'm sat opposite with 2 christmas gifts from santa infront of me (books). Waitress coming so move books so she could put the tray infront of a parent in newly cleared space.
Tray placed in centre of table half in both spaces.
The Mrs has been in therapy as she was sat next to the baby and blames herself for not stopping it. Also has scars down her leg as it splashed her.
Wierd how angry people got when I said how would they feel if I put boiling water in reach of their baby. Almost as if they'd be blaming me and not themselves.
But it's not on the waitress to control what your child is doing. She put the tray down on the table, which is perfectly reasonable.
Objectively, I'd be disappointed in Morrisons not really acknowledging you after the incident but your original post, earmarking a compensation figure for your daughter's ISA, doesn't paint you in the best light.....
JQ said:
No it's not. It's completely predictable that if you place something in arms reach of a toddler they may grab it.
Once you have some experience of them, yes... 
The server could have asked "Where would you like this" and assumed that the space in the middle of the table was apt
The OP could have said "Could you put it by me please"
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