Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

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Wombat3

12,288 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd May
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CraigyMc said:
Wombat3 said:
borcy said:
Randy Winkman said:
In London the civil service cant "all go back" because there isn't even desk space for half of them. Space has been given up in the last few years to save money. It was happening before covid.
Yes i know of other public sector bodies where that's the case as well.
Am also aware if that. OTOH there are reports of other offices well under occupied because of WFH

Data here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-s...

There appears to be plenty of slack in most places.

Edited by Wombat3 on Friday 3rd May 21:35
You want to spend public money on office rents. To do that you'll be upping the national debt, you naughty fellow.
No need to spend more when there is plenty of under utilised space. More a case of making sure we get vfm and full utilisation out of the existing properties methinks wink

Disastrous

10,090 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd May
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Wrong. All that will happen is that after 5, 10, or fifteen years in No 10, The UK public will get fed up with labour, just like they are fed up with the tories now, and vote the tories in again.
Labour had a150 seat majority when they were last in power, They still got massively kicked out in the last GE.
You don't seriously believe that all those tory voters, who cannot or will not vote tory in this years GE, are going to vote labour in this years farce do you?
And so the process goes on.
All I can say is if labour `do' honour all the promises `they' have made in the run up to this years election, we will all be in the land of milk and honey.
The only problem is, that this is what all parties in the last 50 years have been promising us, and not one, NOT ONE of them has delivered on their promises. and made the situation for the UK public any better.
Those that actually think they will, are just grasping at non existent straws.
Honestly, you’re like a skipping record. But a rubbish one you wouldn’t want to be listening to anyway.

Do you not get tired of just saying the same thing over and over almost verbatim? There’s almost no thought or reason whatsoever. Nothing penetrates, or makes you consider a different view. You’re like some sort of conversational Terminator, relentlessly scanning the chat until you can find some prose you can torture sufficiently to wheel out one of about 4 stock paragraphs. Brutal.



(The sad part is I suspect almost everyone on here could type your inevitable ‘riposte’ to this almost word perfectly)

borcy

3,034 posts

57 months

Friday 3rd May
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Wombat3 said:
borcy said:
Randy Winkman said:
In London the civil service cant "all go back" because there isn't even desk space for half of them. Space has been given up in the last few years to save money. It was happening before covid.
Yes i know of other public sector bodies where that's the case as well.
Am also aware if that. OTOH there are reports of other offices well under occupied because of WFH

Data here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-s...

There appears to be plenty of slack in most places.

Edited by Wombat3 on Friday 3rd May 21:35
Offices, obviously, aren't movable. Maybe some spare, maybe some full. But if the empty ones are the wrong of the country.

CraigyMc

16,472 posts

237 months

Friday 3rd May
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Wombat3 said:
CraigyMc said:
Wombat3 said:
borcy said:
Randy Winkman said:
In London the civil service cant "all go back" because there isn't even desk space for half of them. Space has been given up in the last few years to save money. It was happening before covid.
Yes i know of other public sector bodies where that's the case as well.
Am also aware if that. OTOH there are reports of other offices well under occupied because of WFH

Data here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-s...

There appears to be plenty of slack in most places.

Edited by Wombat3 on Friday 3rd May 21:35
You want to spend public money on office rents. To do that you'll be upping the national debt, you naughty fellow.
No need to spend more when there is plenty of under utilised space. More a case of making sure we get vfm and full utilisation out of the existing properties methinks wink
You think these offices are state owned and not sold off years ago or built under a PIP contract?
Are you some sort of communist?

Wombat3

12,288 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd May
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CraigyMc said:
Wombat3 said:
CraigyMc said:
Wombat3 said:
borcy said:
Randy Winkman said:
In London the civil service cant "all go back" because there isn't even desk space for half of them. Space has been given up in the last few years to save money. It was happening before covid.
Yes i know of other public sector bodies where that's the case as well.
Am also aware if that. OTOH there are reports of other offices well under occupied because of WFH

Data here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-s...

There appears to be plenty of slack in most places.

Edited by Wombat3 on Friday 3rd May 21:35
You want to spend public money on office rents. To do that you'll be upping the national debt, you naughty fellow.
No need to spend more when there is plenty of under utilised space. More a case of making sure we get vfm and full utilisation out of the existing properties methinks wink
You think these offices are state owned and not sold off years ago or built under a PIP contract?
Are you some sort of communist?
Must be late, not following what you are on about....

The idea was floated above that the reason people can't go to an office is because there isn't space. Gov't figures show most departments in London seem to be about 70% occupied. Perhaps this is atypical of PS offices across the land, or perhaps its not. Anyone have any figures?


Unsurprisingly occupation was significantly down in the first 2 weeks of April.(school holidays)

TTwiggy

11,552 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd May
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Disastrous said:
Honestly, you’re like a skipping record. But a rubbish one you wouldn’t want to be listening to anyway.

Do you not get tired of just saying the same thing over and over almost verbatim? There’s almost no thought or reason whatsoever. Nothing penetrates, or makes you consider a different view. You’re like some sort of conversational Terminator, relentlessly scanning the chat until you can find some prose you can torture sufficiently to wheel out one of about 4 stock paragraphs. Brutal.



(The sad part is I suspect almost everyone on here could type your inevitable ‘riposte’ to this almost word perfectly)
He never offers an alternative either.

And that weird mismatched quotation mark is all kinds of wrong.

Plus, it's 'Pan Pan. Pan Pan' not 'Pan, Pan, Pan'.

verdict: Russian bot (a st one).

Disastrous

10,090 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th May
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TTwiggy said:
Plus, it's 'Pan Pan. Pan Pan' not 'Pan, Pan, Pan'.
A very good point. Perhaps he should upgrade to a mayday.

Silvanus

5,324 posts

24 months

Saturday 4th May
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So 2 councillors, they must be pleased with that result hehe

smn159

12,769 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th May
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Silvanus said:
So 2 councillors, they must be pleased with that result hehe
It's the will of the people hehe

valiant

10,346 posts

161 months

Saturday 4th May
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smn159 said:
Silvanus said:
So 2 councillors, they must be pleased with that result hehe
It's the will of the people hehe
Apparently, they’ll be challenging the established parties within a few parliaments.

I fear they may have slightly over-egged the pudding…

Even the Workers Party of Britain scored twice as many councillors.

S600BSB

4,827 posts

107 months

Saturday 4th May
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Hilarious

President Merkin

3,171 posts

20 months

Saturday 4th May
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Guess, the boyos in here will be switching over to the Greens. They keep saying they're keen on up & coming parties after all.

Silvanus

5,324 posts

24 months

Saturday 4th May
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President Merkin said:
Guess, the boyos in here will be switching over to the Greens. They keep saying they're keen on up & coming parties after all.
They might have already switched, 181 councillors, up 74.

S600BSB

4,827 posts

107 months

Saturday 4th May
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President Merkin said:
Guess, the boyos in here will be switching over to the Greens. They keep saying they're keen on up & coming parties after all.
Aren’t they just a bit too old to be Greens?

Rufus Stone

6,384 posts

57 months

Saturday 4th May
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How many councillors did Reform end up with?

valiant

10,346 posts

161 months

Saturday 4th May
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Rufus Stone said:
How many councillors did Reform end up with?
2

I *think* they challenged in 300+ seats so a good result.

Rufus Stone

6,384 posts

57 months

Saturday 4th May
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valiant said:
2

I *think* they challenged in 300+ seats so a good result.
A 100% increase then. tongue out

119

6,503 posts

37 months

Saturday 4th May
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How many did they have before?

Rufus Stone

6,384 posts

57 months

Saturday 4th May
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119 said:
How many did they have before?
Have a guess.

bitchstewie

51,590 posts

211 months

Saturday 4th May
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I suppose two is better than none but it doesn't exactly bode well for the future does it.