2024 London Mayoral Election Thread

2024 London Mayoral Election Thread

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bitchstewie

51,592 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th January
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For someone who wants to be the Mayor of London isn't it the "how much is a pint of milk?" test so far as how in touch she is with the lives of the people she wants to represent?

valiant

10,346 posts

161 months

Wednesday 24th January
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fido said:
Of all the people things to bash politicians with .. pointless trivia like how much is a bus fare isn’t that important really. I don’t know exactly how much a bus fare is and I use them regularly - just tap my card and it nearly always hits the Zone 1-2 daily cap (£8.10). Did he also ask Khan how many £s of fuel is needed to fill up his Range Rover?

Edited by fido on Wednesday 24th January 18:09
Of course she should bloody well know!

She's aiming to be the head of TfL, the one organisation that she'll have sole control over with a multi billion pound budget and something like 20k staff.

She wasn't asked how much a 2-6 child's weekly travel card with priv discount applied, she was asked how much a single bus fare was. This is basic stuff and to come so utterly unprepared is embarrassing for a candidate.

Terminator X

15,167 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th January
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captain_cynic said:
Terminator X said:
If only there was a none of the above option. What a st show as is the GE this year.

TX.
There is, it's called "not voting". Voting is not compulsory in this country so if you truly feel that none of the candidates are worth voting for then simply stay home and use the time as you please.

I'll even say you'll still have a right to moan about it even though you didn't vote because in Britain, you have a god given right to a good bloody moan.
Better to count the none of the above votes though vs millions of non votes that they don't give 2 fks about.

TX.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,537 posts

151 months

Wednesday 24th January
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If Susan Hall gets in, I hope she can do something about crime in London.

I recently parked my car in a multi story car park, and thieves stole it and parked it in the exact same spot, 1 floor below. No damage done to car at all, but still, it was very worrying.

I know Susan Hall was the victim of a similar horrendous crime involving her purse and Oyster card, that thieves stole out of her coat pocket, before posting it back to her untouched.

We can't carry on living in fear like this.

xx99xx

1,938 posts

74 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Can't be as bad as this one surely:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/london-mayoral-candidat...

Banned from being a company director
Believes in aliens
Etc

Castrol for a knave

4,726 posts

92 months

Wednesday 24th January
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chrispmartha said:
Hants PHer said:
And didn't she report some unlikely story about her wallet being stolen or something, when it was obvious she's just dropped it (some kind soul handed it in)? Someone said the Conservatives don't want to win the mayoral election. Well, they're going about it the right way with Susan Hall as their candidate.
This was properly hilarious.

She went on LBC claiming to have been robbed on the underground 'because this is Kahn's London'...

But when pressed she said she was one of the lucky ones has her wallet was returned to her later in the day after someone found it on a seat.

It's probably too daft for a Thick of it episode.
So thick, she failed to see the irony of a kind person returning her purse, while trotting out the London is a lawless swamp schtick.

105.4

4,134 posts

72 months

Wednesday 24th January
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bhstewie said:
Thing is if I say this it starts to sound slightly bonkers but I honestly am wondering if they actually want to win it?

I'm sure they'll say yes but if so why on earth did they pick Hall?

She's a political pygmy.
Stewie, considering how utterly inept, (to put it politely), the current Conservative Party is, your “bonkers” suggestion actually sounds pretty sane.

And I say this as someone who’d traditionally vote Conservative.


I lived and worked in the centre of London for a couple of years during 2002-2003, (lived in Ealing, worked in Russel Square). I didn’t much like it then, and I doubt that Khan will have done much to change my mind.

When I consider Ken Livingstone to have been a considerably better Mayor and a considerably better person that Sadiq Khan, I’d say that’s a pretty damming indictment of my opinion of Khan.

Edited by 105.4 on Wednesday 24th January 21:37

standards

1,144 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Glad I no longer live in London.

Doesn’t sound like much of a choice to me.

Killboy

7,450 posts

203 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Hants PHer said:
I listened to Susan Hall's half hour 'phone in on LBC earlier this week. Blimey, she's hopeless isn't she? Didn't know who owned Hammersmith bridge, or how much a Met police officer earns, or even how much a bus ticket in London costs. "Oh, I don't use the buses" she airily said. Almost every time she was asked what she'd do, she said something like "I can't promise anything, because I don't know the numbers".

And didn't she report some unlikely story about her wallet being stolen or something, when it was obvious she's just dropped it (some kind soul handed it in)? Someone said the Conservatives don't want to win the mayoral election. Well, they're going about it the right way with Susan Hall as their candidate.
Isn't this pretty much every conservative PHer? hehe

fido

16,838 posts

256 months

Wednesday 24th January
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valiant said:
She wasn't asked how much a 2-6 child's weekly travel card with priv discount applied, she was asked how much a single bus fare was. This is basic stuff and to come so utterly unprepared is embarrassing for a candidate.
It may be basic but it’s not stuff you need to know off the top of your head to run an organisation. I consider myself well-versed on TFL travel but long gone are the days when you got out change to get on a bus. There are multitude of fare combinations and cap formulas so it doesn’t matter as much.

standards said:
Doesn’t sound like much of a choice to me.
Realistically as in other cities e.g. Manchester we don’t have a choice as it’s predominantly a Labour city. Just go along with the sheeple.

Edited by fido on Wednesday 24th January 22:00

Ian Geary

4,517 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th January
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For what its worth, our council is planning for the general election being the same day as the London mayoral election - 4th May.

I think the capital has an inbuilt labour advantage, so am expecting a Khan win and the implicit endorsement of ulez.

Will all the protestors saying he has no mandate give up their angle grinders I wonder?

OutInTheShed

7,821 posts

27 months

Wednesday 24th January
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bhstewie said:
For someone who wants to be the Mayor of London isn't it the "how much is a pint of milk?" test so far as how in touch she is with the lives of the people she wants to represent?
Only UKIPpers use pints for anything other than beer. Or cider.

I live in a rural-ish area, my neighbour is an ex-dairy farmer, we buy milk in 2 litre plastic bottles from Aldi mostly, sometimes the corner shop.
All I know is a pint bottle isn't much cheaper than a bigger one.

Killboy

7,450 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th January
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s1962a said:
The ULEZ saviour.
Oh, I thought that was a job for the Reform numpties seen supporting the angry old men meetups anti ULEZ protests

over_the_hill

3,189 posts

247 months

Thursday 25th January
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captain_cynic said:
There is, it's called "not voting". Voting is not compulsory in this country so if you truly feel that none of the candidates are worth voting for then simply stay home and use the time as you please.

I'll even say you'll still have a right to moan about it even though you didn't vote because in Britain, you have a god given right to a good bloody moan.
Not quite the same though is it.

By not voting the usual excuses of "safe seat/too hot/too wet/too cold/<add excuse here>" gets trotted out as to why their core support stayed
at home and they carry on as if nothing has happened.

"None of the above" gives the option to say yes I am bothering to vote but not for any of you, because you are all useless tts.

captain_cynic

12,136 posts

96 months

Thursday 25th January
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over_the_hill said:
captain_cynic said:
There is, it's called "not voting". Voting is not compulsory in this country so if you truly feel that none of the candidates are worth voting for then simply stay home and use the time as you please.

I'll even say you'll still have a right to moan about it even though you didn't vote because in Britain, you have a god given right to a good bloody moan.
Not quite the same though is it.
Yes, the difference is you get the 5 minutes you spend at a polling station back.

Seeing as "none of the above" isn't counted it doesn't matter. You're effectively saying that you don't care but want to whinge. It's the same as spoiling your ballot, as voting isn't mandatory here it is really rather pointless to spoil a ballot as the only thing you're doing is wasting your time.

Hence I really don't see a difference between not voting and voting to say that you don't want your vote counted beyond the fact that you've just wasted your time.

If you want to see the candidates change, get involved at the party/candidate level. Of course you risk the revelation that your views aren't really popular.

bitchstewie

51,592 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th January
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OutInTheShed said:
Only UKIPpers use pints for anything other than beer. Or cider.

I live in a rural-ish area, my neighbour is an ex-dairy farmer, we buy milk in 2 litre plastic bottles from Aldi mostly, sometimes the corner shop.
All I know is a pint bottle isn't much cheaper than a bigger one.
Pints litres whatever you'd expect her to have some idea I would have thought.

In isolation perhaps it's not that big of a deal but throw in everything else and it just baffles me why they selected her.

s1962a

Original Poster:

5,370 posts

163 months

Friday 26th January
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Killboy said:
s1962a said:
The ULEZ saviour.
Oh, I thought that was a job for the Reform numpties seen supporting the angry old men meetups anti ULEZ protests
Yeah but one of them has heard about an 85 yr old lady who cannot now to her monthly bingo night because of the ULEZ charge. When the ULEZ issue was kicking off last year, it was made pretty clear that this is one of the most important issues London has to face, and so we'll find out how important it really is come the election.


s1962a

Original Poster:

5,370 posts

163 months

Friday 26th January
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fido said:
Realistically as in other cities e.g. Manchester we don’t have a choice as it’s predominantly a Labour city. Just go along with the sheeple.
"the will of the people" and all that. It seems to have worked for us in 2016.

Personally I think London needs some sort of proportional representation system. Not sure how it would work, be something that balances the needs of the various different groups, and also does something about inequality, crime, transport, and the mess our councils are in.

Killboy

7,450 posts

203 months

Friday 26th January
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s1962a said:
"the will of the people" and all that. It seems to have worked for us in 2016.

Personally I think London needs some sort of proportional representation system. Not sure how it would work, be something that balances the needs of the various different groups, and also does something about inequality, crime, transport, and the mess our councils are in.
Maybe London can be proportionally represented nationally too.

valiant

10,346 posts

161 months

Friday 26th January
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s1962a said:
fido said:
Realistically as in other cities e.g. Manchester we don’t have a choice as it’s predominantly a Labour city. Just go along with the sheeple.
"the will of the people" and all that. It seems to have worked for us in 2016.

Personally I think London needs some sort of proportional representation system. Not sure how it would work, be something that balances the needs of the various different groups, and also does something about inequality, crime, transport, and the mess our councils are in.
London had the ‘supplementary voting’ system in previous mayoral elections where 2nd preference votes carried some weight especially in tightly fought elections but that’s been ditched for this and future elections. It’s now a simple FPTP system which means it will probably be a two horse race forever more.