School dinners - please sir can I have some more!!!!
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Not you.
Murph and his zero evidence they're bad and if they are blame the head teacher schtick.
And that's also not what I said (your school's meals clearly failed you ref reading comprehension).Murph and his zero evidence they're bad and if they are blame the head teacher schtick.
But what you are proving is that people love to whine. Especially you.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/standar...
There'll be hundreds of thousands of school meals served up every day. They're not all going to be Michelin star. But it's evident there are schools out there that can provide good meals. So the ones that are utterly dire should get their s
t together.Countdown said:
IIRC the nutritional quality of school meals improved after Jamie Oliver spoke out about Turkey twizzlers.
The problem is that the students can pay £2.80 for a healthy meal or they can go down to the chippy and get a portion of chips for the same amount of money. Guess which most of them prefer
When I were a lad...The problem is that the students can pay £2.80 for a healthy meal or they can go down to the chippy and get a portion of chips for the same amount of money. Guess which most of them prefer
If you left the premises, at lunch time, and were found to be near any shop, you'd be on an hour detention the next day.
Teachers used to patrol the road outside the chippy (on the way back from the pub)
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Murph7355 said:
3 different schools that I have experience of through my and my good friends' kids. (The latter also has sandwich and salad bars etc).
Despite good quality and varied food one of mine struggled as, frankly, he's a fussy fker. But there are only two people fully responsible for his nutrition.
Not sure how much extensive research you've done. Mine is limited to the personal needs of my kids and what I hear directly from friends...but I'm struggling to believe this is a generic govt problem (couldn't care less which colour. You'll disbelieve it, but I'll be saying the same when Starmer's in - you'll just have to be patient).
Fair and it's good to know that they do occur Despite good quality and varied food one of mine struggled as, frankly, he's a fussy f
ker. But there are only two people fully responsible for his nutrition.Not sure how much extensive research you've done. Mine is limited to the personal needs of my kids and what I hear directly from friends...but I'm struggling to believe this is a generic govt problem (couldn't care less which colour. You'll disbelieve it, but I'll be saying the same when Starmer's in - you'll just have to be patient).
Afraid I still think, and it is anecdotal I'm not even going to pretend I've researched, you're more likely to see something pretty grim than you are something even approaching some of the examples you seem to see in other countries when it comes to quality and freshness.
It's not limited to school meals the hospital anecdotes seems equally valid but we seem to have a real thing for heating up low cost low quality processed food.
I also don't think for one second it's a "colour" thing. I suspect that may make a difference to the extent of school meals i.e. who gets them but I don't think a change there would automatically result in a change or improvement in quality just quantity.
It just seems to be a cultural thing where I don't see us waking up one day and taking, say, the Japanese approach to the issue.
Edited by biggbn on Saturday 4th May 09:33
I work in a school too and the food is decent. In fact it’s decent enough that if eat there I tend not to bother with dinner at home latter.
There’s decent a bit of rubbish served in there like pizza and nachos etc but there’s also a “meal” option every day which never scrimps on portion size.
Monday - Gyros Wraps is ridiculously popular
Tuesday - Traditional (Pie, Lasgna, etc) weakest of the week
Wednesday - Chicken and Chip Day, queues around the canteen
Thursday - Roast (Pork and Crackling!)
Friday - Currry or Chinese (my favourite)
There’s decent a bit of rubbish served in there like pizza and nachos etc but there’s also a “meal” option every day which never scrimps on portion size.
Monday - Gyros Wraps is ridiculously popular
Tuesday - Traditional (Pie, Lasgna, etc) weakest of the week
Wednesday - Chicken and Chip Day, queues around the canteen
Thursday - Roast (Pork and Crackling!)
Friday - Currry or Chinese (my favourite)
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Not you.
Murph and his zero evidence they're bad and if they are blame the head teacher schtick.
Anecdotal evidence from me, but it round here (Blackpool) it does seem to depend heavily on the school management - the primary my son's goes to has great lunches, and it's a really well run school with a great management team, much better than the other (somewhat chaotically run) local primary my daughters went to (now in high school/college), where the lunches were awful...Murph and his zero evidence they're bad and if they are blame the head teacher schtick.
And the secondary schools seem to have really good choices (based on 2 high schools and the local sixth form college), and they're all well run schools with a really good school culture.
Pit Pony said:
When I were a lad...
If you left the premises, at lunch time, and were found to be near any shop, you'd be on an hour detention the next day.
Teachers used to patrol the road outside the chippy (on the way back from the pub)
I remember the teacher strikes in the 80s where the teachers withdrew lunchtime coverage and so we all had to go into town for lunch - fortunately a good friend's mum owned a cafe so we went there and ate whatever we wanted from the menu. I was annoyed when the teachers stopped striking. If you left the premises, at lunch time, and were found to be near any shop, you'd be on an hour detention the next day.
Teachers used to patrol the road outside the chippy (on the way back from the pub)
Fatboy said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Not you.
Murph and his zero evidence they're bad and if they are blame the head teacher schtick.
Anecdotal evidence from me, but it round here (Blackpool) it does seem to depend heavily on the school management - the primary my son's goes to has great lunches, and it's a really well run school with a great management team, much better than the other (somewhat chaotically run) local primary my daughters went to (now in high school/college), where the lunches were awful...Murph and his zero evidence they're bad and if they are blame the head teacher schtick.
And the secondary schools seem to have really good choices (based on 2 high schools and the local sixth form college), and they're all well run schools with a really good school culture.
In Scotland the 70's primary shool dinners were pretty good, they did not only feed you but taught you table manners as well, the older kids did the running to serve the tables and you got to sit at the head of the table which was great...to this day those school dinners is why I love cabbage.
Everyone was terrified when the headmaster attended, he demanded utter silence and I remember one day he came in late and there was a lot of noisey talking going on...he produced his belt (not trousers) and began hitting one of the tables full of cutlery sending them flying in all directions...we all absolutely shat ourselves.
Great times..!!!
Everyone was terrified when the headmaster attended, he demanded utter silence and I remember one day he came in late and there was a lot of noisey talking going on...he produced his belt (not trousers) and began hitting one of the tables full of cutlery sending them flying in all directions...we all absolutely shat ourselves.
Great times..!!!
Klippie said:
In Scotland the 70's primary shool dinners were pretty good, they did not only feed you but taught you table manners as well, the older kids did the running to serve the tables and you got to sit at the head of the table which was great...to this day those school dinners is why I love cabbage.
Everyone was terrified when the headmaster attended, he demanded utter silence and I remember one day he came in late and there was a lot of noisey talking going on...he produced his belt (not trousers) and began hitting one of the tables full of cutlery sending them flying in all directions...we all absolutely shat ourselves.
Great times..!!!
Did you go to the same school I did? Everyone was terrified when the headmaster attended, he demanded utter silence and I remember one day he came in late and there was a lot of noisey talking going on...he produced his belt (not trousers) and began hitting one of the tables full of cutlery sending them flying in all directions...we all absolutely shat ourselves.
Great times..!!!
Klippie said:
In Scotland the 70's primary shool dinners were pretty good, they did not only feed you but taught you table manners as well, the older kids did the running to serve the tables and you got to sit at the head of the table which was great...to this day those school dinners is why I love cabbage.
Everyone was terrified when the headmaster attended, he demanded utter silence and I remember one day he came in late and there was a lot of noisey talking going on...he produced his belt (not trousers) and began hitting one of the tables full of cutlery sending them flying in all directions...we all absolutely shat ourselves.
Great times..!!!
Same here. Also, as in morning assembly, we all stood up (and shut up) when the teachers walked in. Grace was always said before and after too.Everyone was terrified when the headmaster attended, he demanded utter silence and I remember one day he came in late and there was a lot of noisey talking going on...he produced his belt (not trousers) and began hitting one of the tables full of cutlery sending them flying in all directions...we all absolutely shat ourselves.
Great times..!!!
Of course this was back in the day when TV ended with the National Anthem and watching the white dot on the screen to disappear
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