Adrian Newey to Ferrari? Is it possible?
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moorx said:
Tazar said:
Adrian Newey is 65 years old. He’s been married several times and he’s admitted some of those marriages failed because of his work. He has said several times in the past how he’d like to build a boat and sail the world. I believe he now has the boat and is married and has built up a good nest egg from being highly paid. He’s also got involved in historic racing with his son.
What does a man in that position do with his life? Does he take on a new job that is demanding in time and travel? Does he risk another marriage? Does he give up the time he wants to spend on his boat? Does he give up spending quality time with his family? Does he need more money? Now at 65 he can do all he wants and make the most of his remaining years. Does he want the trauma of working with an Italian team and the stress that will bring? He’s got his unblemished record of record breaking cars behind him so why not stop now?
I haven't seen the interviews being referred to, but I was thinking about this earlier. Much as I would love to see Adrian Newey at Ferrari with Lewis Hamilton, he would be more than entitled to call it quits now and enjoy a well-earned retirement. I don't know how old Adrian Newey's wife is, but I am about 10 years younger than him and my OH is 5 years older than me. We've both had some health issues in the last couple of years. It makes you re-evaluate what is important in life (and I've never been one who lives for work as Mr Newey seems to be). Maybe he just wants to relax and enjoy the fruits of his labour. If so, good for both of them.What does a man in that position do with his life? Does he take on a new job that is demanding in time and travel? Does he risk another marriage? Does he give up the time he wants to spend on his boat? Does he give up spending quality time with his family? Does he need more money? Now at 65 he can do all he wants and make the most of his remaining years. Does he want the trauma of working with an Italian team and the stress that will bring? He’s got his unblemished record of record breaking cars behind him so why not stop now?
(But I still hope he goes to Ferrari!)
And well, 2025 might get pretty spicy as the cars continue to converge in performance, plus if Max does leave, Red Bull lose the star driver who is the reason they are dominant - two Perez-tier drivers and their dominance is gone - and 2026 is probably anyone's game right now.
Adrian and Lewis to go for their 16th/10th titles respectively by 2027 and then both call it a day in 2028?
It's a heck of a lot less impossible sounding now than it did when the thread started.
moorx said:
I haven't seen the interviews being referred to, but I was thinking about this earlier. Much as I would love to see Adrian Newey at Ferrari with Lewis Hamilton, he would be more than entitled to call it quits now and enjoy a well-earned retirement. I don't know how old Adrian Newey's wife is, but I am about 10 years younger than him and my OH is 5 years older than me. We've both had some health issues in the last couple of years. It makes you re-evaluate what is important in life (and I've never been one who lives for work as Mr Newey seems to be). Maybe he just wants to relax and enjoy the fruits of his labour. If so, good for both of them.
(But I still hope he goes to Ferrari!)
(But I still hope he goes to Ferrari!)
Kart16 said:
TheDeuce said:
Kart16 said:
RichB said:
thegreenhell said:
RichB said:
Is that a fact that Lance was pushed into F1 because of his father or is it a case of Lawrence, who is exceptionaly wealthy, simply being able to support Lance who wanted to race from a young age?
I think it's a mixture of both. Lawrence has been involved in F1 since the 1980's, long before Lance was born, he owns a racetrack and a large collection of very impressive old racing cars, so is obviously in it for himself as well as for Lance. Lance himself wouldn't have got as far as he has, and had some success on the way there, if his heart wasn't in it, no matter how much he was pushed along by a parent. The determination to return after his injury last year was another sign that he could have otherwise used as an excuse for some time off.
Lawrence Strulovitch got rich when he started to produce designer clothes In sweatshops in China. He started racing on the F355 Ferrari Challenge North America and only later started to sponsor Ferrari.
Secondly, I met the Strolls (including mom), the Verstappens (Max, Jos and Victoria), Mazepins, etc., during their time in karting. They were all on the same kart team where a friend of mine was racing back in the 2010s. That's why I know a few things about him. I had a less than pleasant interaction with Lawrence Strulovitch to the point even nowadays some of my friends joke that "...you (I) will never be invited to any Aston Martin F1 event...".
Tazar said:
Adrian Newey is 65 years old. He’s been married several times and he’s admitted some of those marriages failed because of his work. He has said several times in the past how he’d like to build a boat and sail the world. I believe he now has the boat and is married and has built up a good nest egg from being highly paid. He’s also got involved in historic racing with his son.
What does a man in that position do with his life? Does he take on a new job that is demanding in time and travel? Does he risk another marriage? Does he give up the time he wants to spend on his boat? Does he give up spending quality time with his family? Does he need more money? Now at 65 he can do all he wants and make the most of his remaining years. Does he want the trauma of working with an Italian team and the stress that will bring? He’s got his unblemished record of record breaking cars behind him so why not stop now?
Lot of words there to make no point whatsoever. What does a man in that position do with his life? Does he take on a new job that is demanding in time and travel? Does he risk another marriage? Does he give up the time he wants to spend on his boat? Does he give up spending quality time with his family? Does he need more money? Now at 65 he can do all he wants and make the most of his remaining years. Does he want the trauma of working with an Italian team and the stress that will bring? He’s got his unblemished record of record breaking cars behind him so why not stop now?
If he wanted to retire he wouldn’t have signed his latest contract, else would have at least let it run until 2026 and enjoy all the retirement parties, good will and presentations.
If he wanted to retire he wouldn’t have hired a manager who is currently courting half the grid.
He might be a nice guy but he is also vainglorious. He wants another go with another team. Yachting can wait.
From his interview, the yacht won’t be ready until next year anyway.
Modena is equidistant between the Med and Adriatic. Ferrari will know how he likes to work and can allow him to write his own job description. Byrne works as a consultant and has laid the ground.
Williams is unlikely because they are PU customers and Newey would have no ability to adapt the installation.
Aston would probably demand too much in time.
Modena is equidistant between the Med and Adriatic. Ferrari will know how he likes to work and can allow him to write his own job description. Byrne works as a consultant and has laid the ground.
Williams is unlikely because they are PU customers and Newey would have no ability to adapt the installation.
Aston would probably demand too much in time.
Leithen said:
From his interview, the yacht won’t be ready until next year anyway.
Modena is equidistant between the Med and Adriatic. Ferrari will know how he likes to work and can allow him to write his own job description. Byrne works as a consultant and has laid the ground.
Williams is unlikely because they are PU customers and Newey would have no ability to adapt the installation.
Aston would probably demand too much in time.
He spends a lot of time in South Africa, as that is where his wife is from. So okay from timezone but a 10 hr flight?Modena is equidistant between the Med and Adriatic. Ferrari will know how he likes to work and can allow him to write his own job description. Byrne works as a consultant and has laid the ground.
Williams is unlikely because they are PU customers and Newey would have no ability to adapt the installation.
Aston would probably demand too much in time.
I still think (and will no doubt be wrong!) that both Lewis and Newey were deals done a while ago. Each was used to lure the other to the Ferrari for 2025 (in all honesty I am not sure why Newey would want to work with Lewis to the extent he would leave the Red Bull team he has spent 20 years at but there we go, it is a fascinating situation)
Jasandjules said:
I still think (and will no doubt be wrong!) that both Lewis and Newey were deals done a while ago. Each was used to lure the other to the Ferrari for 2025 (in all honesty I am not sure why Newey would want to work with Lewis to the extent he would leave the Red Bull team he has spent 20 years at but there we go, it is a fascinating situation)
100% a done deal. Max knew this a while ago which is why he voiced his discontent with Horner and the rumour of him moving to Mercedes emerged.
Newey probably has one more job left in the business before retirement and he wants to do it at the iconic Ferrari team. Working with Lewis is just a bonus.
Tazar said:
Adrian Newey is 65 years old. He’s been married several times and he’s admitted some of those marriages failed because of his work. He has said several times in the past how he’d like to build a boat and sail the world. I believe he now has the boat and is married and has built up a good nest egg from being highly paid. He’s also got involved in historic racing with his son.
What does a man in that position do with his life? Does he take on a new job that is demanding in time and travel? Does he risk another marriage? Does he give up the time he wants to spend on his boat? Does he give up spending quality time with his family? Does he need more money? Now at 65 he can do all he wants and make the most of his remaining years. Does he want the trauma of working with an Italian team and the stress that will bring? He’s got his unblemished record of record breaking cars behind him so why not stop now?
I was sure he was going to Ferrari until I saw the Brundle interview. Now I think retirement is more likely.What does a man in that position do with his life? Does he take on a new job that is demanding in time and travel? Does he risk another marriage? Does he give up the time he wants to spend on his boat? Does he give up spending quality time with his family? Does he need more money? Now at 65 he can do all he wants and make the most of his remaining years. Does he want the trauma of working with an Italian team and the stress that will bring? He’s got his unblemished record of record breaking cars behind him so why not stop now?
If he has done a deal with Ferrari, then it must be very secretive, because there’s no way Red Bull would have him anywhere near F1 if he was going.
Which tells me there isn’t a deal.
Megaflow said:
there’s no way Red Bull would have him anywhere near F1 if he was going.
Why? There’s little to be gained moving him to the back office at this stage. If you wanted to try and limit the transfer of knowledge you would have needed him to step back some time ago; and how much might that have hindered Red Bull’s development?Megaflow said:
I was sure he was going to Ferrari until I saw the Brundle interview. Now I think retirement is more likely.
If he has done a deal with Ferrari, then it must be very secretive, because there’s no way Red Bull would have him anywhere near F1 if he was going.
Which tells me there isn’t a deal.
He did sound like he genuinely wanted to take a break, but I think he's the sort of person who would get bored of retirement very quickly.If he has done a deal with Ferrari, then it must be very secretive, because there’s no way Red Bull would have him anywhere near F1 if he was going.
Which tells me there isn’t a deal.
Also, if he was planning a full retirement, why did he bother negotiating a release that allows to him to start working for another team early next year? Maybe he hasn't got a deal in place already, but he is surely planning for the possibility, otherwise he could have just let his full contract term run out.
Jasandjules said:
I still think (and will no doubt be wrong!) that both Lewis and Newey were deals done a while ago. Each was used to lure the other to the Ferrari for 2025 (in all honesty I am not sure why Newey would want to work with Lewis to the extent he would leave the Red Bull team he has spent 20 years at but there we go, it is a fascinating situation)
I'm a huge Lewis fan but let's face it Lewis will be 40 when he starts driving for Ferrari.Adrian has zero to prove. He's 65. He is walking from a job that gave him a great work balance. I honestly think he's simply calling it a day to enjoy life to the full.
I would love to see the pairing, but I can't see it happening.
stemll said:
He looked burned out.
Almost everything he said sounded like he was off to retire or was all of the "maybe get a motorhome and travel down through France" and so on what he is now planning for the rest of 2024?
We have had many wild speculations about what Newey will do next year, but his own words speak volumes! He clearly has little drive to just continue at a new team next year, he wants a break, he wants time to relax, less stress, more time with wife and traveling. For this year he will continue at Red Bull, but from early next year, I gather from Newey's own words, that he will be taking several months off away from motorsport. Almost everything he said sounded like he was off to retire or was all of the "maybe get a motorhome and travel down through France" and so on what he is now planning for the rest of 2024?
So many journalists want clicks, they just spew out some things they cooked up in their heads and put some vague claim the information came from a close insider or friend. BUT Newey's own words are all people should accept as fact, other articles stating some vague rumours or claims at a Ferrari deal already done, or whatever are to be taken with a massive grain of salt.
Tazar said:
Adrian Newey is 65 years old. He’s been married several times and he’s admitted some of those marriages failed because of his work. He has said several times in the past how he’d like to build a boat and sail the world. I believe he now has the boat and is married and has built up a good nest egg from being highly paid. He’s also got involved in historic racing with his son.
What does a man in that position do with his life? Does he take on a new job that is demanding in time and travel? Does he risk another marriage? Does he give up the time he wants to spend on his boat? Does he give up spending quality time with his family? Does he need more money? Now at 65 he can do all he wants and make the most of his remaining years. Does he want the trauma of working with an Italian team and the stress that will bring? He’s got his unblemished record of record breaking cars behind him so why not stop now?
I agree, Newey's demanding role has taken a massive toll on his personal life, and from his recent public comments we can see he really does desire a break from such a demanding schedule. With now at least 24 races per season, it is brutal on everyone in a team. He deserves a break. Not saying he should retire, he has had a truly amazing career, but a year off would do him very good mentally and he can be back in 2026 doing whatever he wants in motorsport, in F1 or another project he would find interesting. What does a man in that position do with his life? Does he take on a new job that is demanding in time and travel? Does he risk another marriage? Does he give up the time he wants to spend on his boat? Does he give up spending quality time with his family? Does he need more money? Now at 65 he can do all he wants and make the most of his remaining years. Does he want the trauma of working with an Italian team and the stress that will bring? He’s got his unblemished record of record breaking cars behind him so why not stop now?
Victor.Lee said:
We have had many wild speculations about what Newey will do next year, but his own words speak volumes! He clearly has little drive to just continue at a new team next year, he wants a break, he wants time to relax, less stress, more time with wife and traveling. For this year he will continue at Red Bull, but from early next year, I gather from Newey's own words, that he will be taking several months off away from motorsport.
So many journalists want clicks, they just spew out some things they cooked up in their heads and put some vague claim the information came from a close insider or friend. BUT Newey's own words are all people should accept as fact, other articles stating some vague rumours or claims at a Ferrari deal already done, or whatever are to be taken with a massive grain of salt.
The way i have understood it, he is out of the design team immediately, and will spend most of his time tinkering with the road car project. I expect he wont be at the races anymore, Miami being his PR send off appearance. If he does do other races, it's likely sporadic.So many journalists want clicks, they just spew out some things they cooked up in their heads and put some vague claim the information came from a close insider or friend. BUT Newey's own words are all people should accept as fact, other articles stating some vague rumours or claims at a Ferrari deal already done, or whatever are to be taken with a massive grain of salt.
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