The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)

The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)

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QBee

21,027 posts

145 months

Friday 3rd May
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Slowboathome said:
giblet said:
I stuck a set of Goodyear all seasons onto my shed a few months back. Not cheap at £400 but they seem decent so far
Putting a decent set of all Michelin CC2s on my shed has trapped me into a position of 'I've got to keep repairing it whatever the cost because it's got £400 worth of new tyres on it'

Is that a version of the sunk cost fallacy?
It's the problem with trying to take the safety of you and your passengers responsibly. I am juggling with it right now.

It's why I, and a number of others around this thread, try to buy good quality tyres, but nearly new, for a better price.
Done carefully you can end up with decent tyres with almost 100% of the new tread, no puncture repairs, and put on the car by someone who does know what he is doing. And for wellm under 50% of the cost of new tyres.

Where I used to live we had a used tyre place in our village and they had a constant queue at the door. Good honest local people, buying carefully at auction and selling to locals who trusted them. Even though it is 80 miles from where I now live, I am giving serious consideration to popping back there for my next set.

Om

1,809 posts

79 months

Friday 3rd May
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Looking around, my Fabia is probably descending into shed-dom. It is 11 years old, just about to tip 50k miles and is probably worth a few grand but is an unexceptional bland box. Last year I started servicing it myself and whilst it gets looked after it gets mid range tyres and an annual/bi-annual wash.

Trouble is I am not sure if i can descend into shed-dom with it. Whilst I am happy to park it anywhere within reason, I am still bereft if it gets marked (if I ever catch who scraped the bumper corner then...) and considered getting paint resprayed before repairing it myself. Even if it is not worth too much I can't get away from seeing it as a valuable 'asset' and I actually enjoy the infrequent washing sessions... I rather like it.

I suspect I am a hopeless case.

993BPT

8 posts

9 months

Friday 3rd May
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maxwellwd said:
ferrisbueller said:
CivicDuties said:
maxwellwd said:
ferrisbueller said:
Is the 2012+ (Mk9?) Civic as much of a cockroach as its predecessor?
I have a 2015 tourer 1.6 i-DTEC for nearly two years now. Objectively it's one of the best cars I have had. I have done about 22k in it and nothing has ever gone wrong ever. Driving up and down from Kent to Scotland in it and everything else in between. Regularly does over 65 MPG, the boot is massive, the magic seats are very clever. Cheap tax at £20 odd for the year. It even handles really well in dynamic mode.

I really rate them, the petrol is meant to be equally as good. They designed this diesel engine well with the location of the DPF, will keep it going and going.

Negatives. The paint is very soft on these, alloy wheels corrode easily (just had mine refurbed) seems to be a Japanese thing in my experience. The seats aren't the most comfortable on long trips sadly.
Spot on. Very soft paint, I managed to bubble it by just putting a magnetic GB sticker on it. Sigh. I have driven mine to Montenegro and back, I find the seats pretty good. Room enough for a family of 4 plus luggage on that trip, no bother. Great economy for a petrol engine and an auto to boot - recently filled up at Lomondside Services near Dumbarton and got home to Berkshire with 100 miles range showing still. Higher VED on the petrol but still only £180 or something. Practicality is off the scale for a car of its size - it has more boot space in terms of litres than some Merc E Class estates. Mine's got flappy paddles and it drives like a warm hatch when it's just me in it. Brilliant car.

I would agree that objectively it's one of the best cars I've ever had too (37 at last count...)
Thanks.

I don't think corroding alloys is a Japanese thing. Diamond cut alloys in general are stupidly difficult to keep in good order for any length of time.
They weren't diamond cut on mine. Only going by a Toyota and Lexus I had which were terrible for corroding and were not diamond cut, and now the civic.
The SMART ForFour (454) shed, based on the Mitsubishi Colt, had wheel refurbished 6 years ago and wheels are corroded again.

bearman68

4,665 posts

133 months

Friday 3rd May
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Just a note on tyres if I may.

As you can imagine, I fit many tyres, all the tie to everything. It wouldn't be a lie to say that I think quite a bit about tyres, and I have spent a few spreadsheets working out the most optimum tyre for my particular circumstances.
It's worth bearing in mind I drive most of my sheds at some stage, so I'm not fond of crap rubber.

My go-to solution are Kormoran tyres. They are pretty good, and have a good combination of good life, decent performance, and good price.
I've fitted used tyres in the past, of course. But the car looks better presented with matching tyres, and getting 4 of a particular brand, and matching pattern can be hard work. And they are not that much cheaper (Maybe 15%). And the local used tyre places don't offer things like monthly accounts, paperwork, payment by BACS and that type of thing which is probably more important to me than most people (I spend nearly £2k a month on tyres). So overall, I'm very happy with the Kormoran offering, and it's not very often I will deviate from this. So I would generally recommend them as a good option for sheddists. And I have them on my Alfa, and I run out of talent and courage long before the tyres. Not that I am a driving God by any means, usually quite the opposite.

Bonefish Blues

26,933 posts

224 months

Friday 3rd May
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Did you resolve your insurance travails?

Ryyy

1,507 posts

36 months

Friday 3rd May
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So as bearman shared wisdon i did what anyone would do... see how much a kormoran is for your shed wink the answer is £90. Its not bad i suppose but ill be sticking with part worns for this shed. If i had my caddy id be tempted(or something i vaguely liked/had interest in) to try and would happily spend the £90 on tyres but i dont and i really want this shed to just go from a to b as cheaply as possible paperbag


anarki

763 posts

137 months

Friday 3rd May
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Haven't checked in for a long, long time.

Still got the shedvic (Mk7 1.7cdti) now up to 171k miles. Haven't had to spend too much on it in the grand scheme of things (wear and tear items, and a cambelt) it just seems to keep going without any signs of giving up.

Would like to see it tick over the 200k mark, as long as no low emission zones get implemented where I live by that time, I see no reason to get rid smile

bearman68

4,665 posts

133 months

Saturday 4th May
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Ryyy said:
So as bearman shared wisdon i did what anyone would do... see how much a kormoran is for your shed wink the answer is £90. Its not bad i suppose but ill be sticking with part worns for this shed. If i had my caddy id be tempted(or something i vaguely liked/had interest in) to try and would happily spend the £90 on tyres but i dont and i really want this shed to just go from a to b as cheaply as possible paperbag
Ah, OK, maybe I get good deals on them - I rarely pay over £60 for a tyre, and usually less than £50. But as I say, I think I keep most of the crew in the local tyre shop fed and watered, so they are probably quite generous.

Insurance travails not really sorted. My insurance premium has risen from just under £2k, to just under £10k in 2 years, with the level of cover reducing. But I have had to pay it - there is no option. But I see no option other than to pass those prices on, or I am not in business. I hate them all.


matt21

4,291 posts

205 months

Saturday 4th May
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Looks like I’ll finally be parting with my shed after 14yrs faithful service.

My Passat 1.9TDI Highline is now on 252k and surplus to requirements as I’ve bought a newer Golf. Wheel arches gone, has a sticky brake calliper and a few warning lights, but the drivetrain is solid, interior like new (never any kids or pets in it) and has full service history. Has some nice additions such as steel wheels with Michelin Crossclimates, window blinds and a Kenwood DAB / Bluetooth radio.

Tax and insurance is up, plus the calliper, so probably £6-700 that I can’t justify when the car isn’t being used. Hoping to get £500 but reckon it will be bought by someone to break which I would hate as it should soldier on for a few more years. That’s the problem at this end of the market, even a small repair renders a car as spares or repair. What are the chances someone would buy it and keep it running?




Dan Singh

883 posts

51 months

Saturday 4th May
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matt21 said:
Looks like I’ll finally be parting with my shed after 14yrs faithful service.

My Passat 1.9TDI Highline is now on 252k and surplus to requirements as I’ve bought a newer Golf. Wheel arches gone, has a sticky brake calliper and a few warning lights, but the drivetrain is solid, interior like new (never any kids or pets in it) and has full service history. Has some nice additions such as steel wheels with Michelin Crossclimates, window blinds and a Kenwood DAB / Bluetooth radio.

Tax and insurance is up, plus the calliper, so probably £6-700 that I can’t justify when the car isn’t being used. Hoping to get £500 but reckon it will be bought by someone to break which I would hate as it should soldier on for a few more years. That’s the problem at this end of the market, even a small repair renders a car as spares or repair. What are the chances someone would buy it and keep it running?


The gaffer taped wheel arch is peak sheddism, I adopted the same tactic on a damaged tailgate for years.

matt21

4,291 posts

205 months

Saturday 4th May
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Yep, as every year passes the gaffer tape grows and the wheel arches shrink. Underneath they are very bad shape!

7 5 7

3,208 posts

112 months

Saturday 4th May
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matt21 said:
Looks like I’ll finally be parting with my shed after 14yrs faithful service.

My Passat 1.9TDI Highline is now on 252k and surplus to requirements as I’ve bought a newer Golf. Wheel arches gone, has a sticky brake calliper and a few warning lights, but the drivetrain is solid, interior like new (never any kids or pets in it) and has full service history. Has some nice additions such as steel wheels with Michelin Crossclimates, window blinds and a Kenwood DAB / Bluetooth radio.

Tax and insurance is up, plus the calliper, so probably £6-700 that I can’t justify when the car isn’t being used. Hoping to get £500 but reckon it will be bought by someone to break which I would hate as it should soldier on for a few more years. That’s the problem at this end of the market, even a small repair renders a car as spares or repair. What are the chances someone would buy it and keep it running?



It's a survivor, I hope someone takes it on

r3g

3,295 posts

25 months

Saturday 4th May
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7 5 7 said:
It's a survivor, I hope someone takes it on
Depends how rotten it is underside. The VWs of that era are well known for the arches going on them. Not an expensive job to fix if it's just the lip, just time-consuming so it's a job to do yourself really. If it's got corrosion advisories for suspension mounts or sills then it's £250 scrap value only.

bugo

257 posts

114 months

Saturday 4th May
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Talk of the diesel Civics on this thread makes me weirdly jealous. Living in a hilly part of Yorkshire, with a 2018 petrol 1.8 Civic means a bit or rowing through the box. Now on 103k after almost 6 years of ownership and going strongish, with just a couple of springs, a set of disks, pads and tyres - nothing extraordinary. Oh, and a bit of exhaust mount welding.

Grass is always greener though. If the temp is good, the tyres are right, and my right foot isn't too heavy I can honestly touch a genuine 50mpg on a long run. In town, 35mpg sadly is the most ambitious you can yet but I imagine that duty cycle isn't the best for the diesels either? That mpg may also be fiction but I'm too scare to calculate it fill-to-fill. As mine is doing lots of short journeys I think I'm probably in the right powertrain anyway.

Doing so many short journeys the battery is clearly a bit stressed though as I recall I got a Yuasa for £60 a year into ownership, but I've had a couple of events where I've killed it temporarily. I can never really decide if there is some parasitic drain on the auto lights/wipers so I just try to knock them off and £50 on a lithium starter has been a good investment! Alternator must work, maybe not as well as it once did maybe.

Is this a sad shed thing to want to try 'spins' on your shed be that powertrain, revision, or even spec? I'd love to try the 2 diesels as I recall they evolved it further in the next 2012+ model, and I've always thought I'd feel strongly on it one way or another. When I bought mine, the clutch wear on diesels put me off as the bill looked a bit of a chunky one

Ride quality is crap in all these though, and cheap suspension in the rear makes that especially rattly. Oh, and my AC is knackered. I tried the fuse fix, I tried a regas and it worked but badly for a short time - kind of annoyed as they should have identified a leak really from the way it dropped but can't really stomach a huge diagnostic and trace bill on a leak, or a large compressor bill. If anyone with a Civic has suffered similarly, I'd be interested in your experiences!

7 5 7

3,208 posts

112 months

Sunday 5th May
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Shed fleet update...

160,000 miles 2012 318d E91 passed its MOT...advisory "weak front windscreen washers", which I knew of anyway, so looks like I may have to un-gunk the washer motor again. Summers wheels back on.



And...also, how can I forget the beautiful Vecshed - it is still pushing on, 1,200+ miles to do between now and end of next week.

It is going to need a few more rear bushes and fix the corroded rear springs soon, so will be bringing it in once it has some downtime, hovering around 155,000"ish miles by then



Edited by 7 5 7 on Sunday 5th May 09:07

BricktopST205

1,047 posts

135 months

Sunday 5th May
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r3g said:
Depends how rotten it is underside. The VWs of that era are well known for the arches going on them. Not an expensive job to fix if it's just the lip, just time-consuming so it's a job to do yourself really. If it's got corrosion advisories for suspension mounts or sills then it's £250 scrap value only.
To the ultimate shedder that cannot stop you though. £20 on some metal and £30 on a tin of paint and your golden. Then it is just your time!

Obviously it helps if you have a compressor and welder already!



BenS94

1,959 posts

25 months

Sunday 5th May
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bugo said:
Talk of the diesel Civics on this thread makes me weirdly jealous. Living in a hilly part of Yorkshire, with a 2018 petrol 1.8 Civic means a bit or rowing through the box. Now on 103k after almost 6 years of ownership and going strongish, with just a couple of springs, a set of disks, pads and tyres - nothing extraordinary. Oh, and a bit of exhaust mount welding.

Grass is always greener though. If the temp is good, the tyres are right, and my right foot isn't too heavy I can honestly touch a genuine 50mpg on a long run. In town, 35mpg sadly is the most ambitious you can yet but I imagine that duty cycle isn't the best for the diesels either? That mpg may also be fiction but I'm too scare to calculate it fill-to-fill. As mine is doing lots of short journeys I think I'm probably in the right powertrain anyway.

Doing so many short journeys the battery is clearly a bit stressed though as I recall I got a Yuasa for £60 a year into ownership, but I've had a couple of events where I've killed it temporarily. I can never really decide if there is some parasitic drain on the auto lights/wipers so I just try to knock them off and £50 on a lithium starter has been a good investment! Alternator must work, maybe not as well as it once did maybe.

Is this a sad shed thing to want to try 'spins' on your shed be that powertrain, revision, or even spec? I'd love to try the 2 diesels as I recall they evolved it further in the next 2012+ model, and I've always thought I'd feel strongly on it one way or another. When I bought mine, the clutch wear on diesels put me off as the bill looked a bit of a chunky one

Ride quality is crap in all these though, and cheap suspension in the rear makes that especially rattly. Oh, and my AC is knackered. I tried the fuse fix, I tried a regas and it worked but badly for a short time - kind of annoyed as they should have identified a leak really from the way it dropped but can't really stomach a huge diagnostic and trace bill on a leak, or a large compressor bill. If anyone with a Civic has suffered similarly, I'd be interested in your experiences!
Must be incredibly late to be a 2018 1.8, the 1.0 and 1.5 turbos were out from early 2017 on a 66 plate.

Gordon Hill

889 posts

16 months

Sunday 5th May
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7 5 7 said:
Shed fleet update...

160,000 miles 2012 318d E91 passed its MOT...advisory "weak front windscreen washers", which I knew of anyway, so looks like I may have to un-gunk the washer motor again. Summers wheels back on.



And...also, how can I forget the beautiful Vecshed - it is still pushing on, 1,200+ miles to do between now and end of next week.

It is going to need a few more rear bushes and fix the corroded rear springs soon, so will be bringing it in once it has some downtime, hovering around 155,000"ish miles by then



Edited by 7 5 7 on Sunday 5th May 09:07
Now that Vectra is one filthy car, good on you for not giving a sh#t, I couldn't live with it though.

anarki

763 posts

137 months

Sunday 5th May
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BenS94 said:
Must be incredibly late to be a 2018 1.8, the 1.0 and 1.5 turbos were out from early 2017 on a 66 plate.
I thought that too, perhaps they meant a 2010 model? As they reference the next generation in their post being from 2012 onwards

bugo

257 posts

114 months

Sunday 5th May
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anarki said:
I thought that too, perhaps they meant a 2010 model? As they reference the next generation in their post being from 2012 onwards
BenS94 said:
Must be incredibly late to be a 2018 1.8, the 1.0 and 1.5 turbos were out from early 2017 on a 66 plate.
Just a daft typo, sorry. Indeed 2010 is what I meant, so after the tiny facelift but still a mk8. Be sad when it dies.