RE: TVR Scamander prototype set for London Concours

RE: TVR Scamander prototype set for London Concours

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Ahonen

5,018 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd May
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edoverheels said:
I just can’t imagine how TVR went bust.
This wasn't a TVR. The writer is completely wrong to call it a TVR. It was PW's personal project after he sold TVR - and after TVR had effectively closed. Various ex-TVR engineers worked on the project but that's not to say it was ever a TVR.

Can the Pistonheads staff update the article, please? Thanks.

myhandle

1,197 posts

175 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Ahonen said:
This wasn't a TVR. The writer is completely wrong to call it a TVR. It was PW's personal project after he sold TVR - and after TVR had effectively closed. Various ex-TVR engineers worked on the project but that's not to say it was ever a TVR.

Can the Pistonheads staff update the article, please? Thanks.
Yes, seem to remember an article in Evo or maybe Autocar (or both) along these lines, “This is what Peter Wheeler is doing next after TVR” kind of thing. Certainly was not referred to as a TVR at the time.

GAjon

3,738 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd May
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myhandle said:
Ahonen said:
This wasn't a TVR. The writer is completely wrong to call it a TVR. It was PW's personal project after he sold TVR - and after TVR had effectively closed. Various ex-TVR engineers worked on the project but that's not to say it was ever a TVR.

Can the Pistonheads staff update the article, please? Thanks.
Yes, seem to remember an article in Evo or maybe Autocar (or both) along these lines, “This is what Peter Wheeler is doing next after TVR” kind of thing. Certainly was not referred to as a TVR at the time.
But, if that’s where they nicked all the parts from , it’s got TVR in it!

The Wookie

13,973 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd May
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I vaguely remember my old team mate (who was the TVR works driver) telling me about PW going mad and penning a speedboat over a weekend after he decided that TVR making engines and fiberglass meant boats were an obvious opportunity for diversifying into.

IIRC it was hilariously unbalanced and capsized with one of the (reluctant) engineering team at the helm before it had made it halfway out the port.

Unless I've made all that up, PW must have refined his buoyancy skills from the lessons learnt rofl

Antj

1,050 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd May
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we'll call it "The Homer"

SpudLink

5,920 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Antj said:
we'll call it "The Homer"

Jon_S_Rally

3,425 posts

89 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Antj said:
we'll call it "The Homer"
That episode is 30+ years old. I think it might be time to replace that reference laugh

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Thursday 2nd May
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SpudLink said:
I still don't understand it. I guess it's because I've never lived anywhere that needs a car capable of traversing the water.
The problem with amphibians as 'go anywhere' vehicles is that they can be good (enough) on land, and good (enough) on water, but they're usually pretty useless on the steep or boggy bits that often separate the two.

It's OK driving the thing in and out of Windermere on a concrete slip, but try to do the same on a loch with 50 metres of semi-liquid peat around its edges, up in the Highlands, or in and out of a river with a 6 foot bank both sides, and you're onto a loser.

Twoshoe

861 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd May
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As I live on the Somerset levels, this might be just what I need!

C5_Steve

3,229 posts

104 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Jon_S_Rally said:
That episode is 30+ years old. I think it might be time to replace that reference laugh
30 years old and STILL relevant though, The Simpsons was waaaaay ahead of it's time rofl

As for this thing, absolutely mental. I've been of two minds about whether to attend the show this year but this may tip it.

asci.white

385 posts

74 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Equus said:
The problem with amphibians as 'go anywhere' vehicles is that they can be good (enough) on land, and good (enough) on water, but they're usually pretty useless on the steep or boggy bits that often separate the two.

It's OK driving the thing in and out of Windermere on a concrete slip, but try to do the same on a loch with 50 metres of semi-liquid peat around its edges, up in the Highlands, or in and out of a river with a 6 foot bank both sides, and you're onto a loser.
You sure about that..



Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Thursday 2nd May
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asci.white said:
You sure about that..


Yup.

Try driving that through a peat bog and see how far you get.

WPA

8,915 posts

115 months

Thursday 2nd May
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That is pig ugly.

andrewcliffe

986 posts

225 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Not a TVR. Came after PW sold to NS. It's registered with the DVLA as an "Oceanid" or a "Commander" depending on which portal you believe - although Commander and Scamander could be mistaken to a degree.

Oceanids were Greek mythological sea nymphs, and Scamander was a river god, again Greek mythology.

Ancient Greek myths also inspired TVR names under Peter Wheeler - Chimaera, Cerbera & Typhon, whllst the Sagaris was an ancient battle axe

rs mexico

475 posts

217 months

Friday 3rd May
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The Wookie said:
I vaguely remember my old team mate (who was the TVR works driver) telling me about PW going mad and penning a speedboat over a weekend after he decided that TVR making engines and fiberglass meant boats were an obvious opportunity for diversifying into.

IIRC it was hilariously unbalanced and capsized with one of the (reluctant) engineering team at the helm before it had made it halfway out the port.

Unless I've made all that up, PW must have refined his buoyancy skills from the lessons learnt rofl
I remember having a very long but narrow boat in the Yard in then 80s .We fitted a Rover V8 into it a strange looking thing ..Can’t remember if it was to do with Noel Edmond who was in the papers at the time for being conned out of money by some bloke for a boat project ..

Some Gump

12,720 posts

187 months

Friday 3rd May
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asci.white said:
You sure about that..


Styling is a bit derivative.

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Friday 3rd May
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rs mexico said:
I remember having a very long but narrow boat in the Yard in then 80s .We fitted a Rover V8 into it a strange looking thing ..Can’t remember if it was to do with Noel Edmond who was in the papers at the time for being conned out of money by some bloke for a boat project ..
Discussed recently on THIS thread.

It would have taken more than a Rover V8!

Nomme de Plum

4,684 posts

17 months

Friday 3rd May
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Mouse Rat said:
FourWheelDrift said:
edoverheels said:
I just can’t imagine how TVR went bust.
It didn't under Wheeler.
His sheer bloody-mindedness on one hand provided brilliance and on the other problems
I met him a few times and also visited the factory on a number of occasions. It was best described as chaotic unkempt and generally dirty.

He, IMO, was incredibly arrogant and this was ultimately their undoing. He baled when the company was already faltering.

rs mexico

475 posts

217 months

Friday 3rd May
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Equus said:
Discussed recently on THIS thread.

It would have taken more than a Rover V8!
Was a 4.3 big valve though.Worked on some weird stuff while I was there .Just wished I had taken a camera to work.


Ocellia

188 posts

150 months

Saturday 4th May
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Citroen Oli would fit here too.