high mileage 2012 disco4 - run away?

high mileage 2012 disco4 - run away?

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240Cup

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641 posts

191 months

Saturday 4th May
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So speaking to the specialist that also sells these they have sold hundred over the years but only had two fail.

And further details gleaned is that the earlier (2010ish) cars had a bad 'batch' of cranks when the failure was more prevalent and the latest ones only tend to fail if badly maintained / wrong oil used / thrashed.

What say the PH panel? The one I am looking at is a 2012 SDV6 HSE with 90k on and full main dealer and well known specialist history.

Also been told that a rebuild could be anywhere between 4 and 7K.


miniman

25,051 posts

263 months

Saturday 4th May
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240Cup said:
So speaking to the specialist that also sells these they have sold hundred over the years but only had two fail.

And further details gleaned is that the earlier (2010ish) cars had a bad 'batch' of cranks when the failure was more prevalent and the latest ones only tend to fail if badly maintained / wrong oil used / thrashed.

What say the PH panel? The one I am looking at is a 2012 SDV6 HSE with 90k on and full main dealer and well known specialist history.

Also been told that a rebuild could be anywhere between 4 and 7K.

Mine is 2012, up to 115k now. Buy from a specialist.

Tin Hat

1,380 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th May
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Triumph Man said:
A.J.M said:
Tin Hat said:
miniman said:
Belt change is nice and easy too.

Heavens above, I think that this image says a thousand words
That’s MDRS.

Funnily enough, that’s where my D3 is.
They posted up pictures of mine back in March as it’s getting the welding and Dinitrol treatment.

They can take a body off in about an hour or so.

They are designed to come apart, gives ultimate access to everything and gets the jobs done quicker.

It’s not as bad as it looks.
Indeed, they are designed to be split, and a good mechanic can do it quite quickly. I’ve just started following MDRS on FB and the stuff they do is incredible.

Still, as a home mechanic (without a lift) anything body off is scary - as I don’t have the facilities! I think there was a guy who did it with high lift axle stands but he must have added to the disco’s considerable weight with his massive balls to do that!
Well, you learn something every day! That is pretty amazing, I never knew that these were designed like that

TNJ

410 posts

163 months

Sunday 5th May
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miniman said:
240Cup said:
So speaking to the specialist that also sells these they have sold hundred over the years but only had two fail.

And further details gleaned is that the earlier (2010ish) cars had a bad 'batch' of cranks when the failure was more prevalent and the latest ones only tend to fail if badly maintained / wrong oil used / thrashed.

What say the PH panel? The one I am looking at is a 2012 SDV6 HSE with 90k on and full main dealer and well known specialist history.

Also been told that a rebuild could be anywhere between 4 and 7K.

Mine is 2012, up to 115k now. Buy from a specialist.
Not sure that is true! Mine is a 65 plate, FSH and 60k miles - crank shaft snapped and left me with a£9k bill.

Bill

52,920 posts

256 months

Sunday 5th May
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KPB1973 said:
I'm not a hater - i've owned two - and if it weren't for the crank issue then i'd have one until I die...but I just couldn't live with the risk of sinking £12-15k into one with the potential of having to either throw it away, or spend the same on a new engine.

Then again, every time I see one I get a pang for another.
yes Loved mine but it was a constant flow of cash keeping it right and I didn't have any of the big expensive issues crop up.

Triumph Man

8,712 posts

169 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Tin Hat said:
Triumph Man said:
A.J.M said:
Tin Hat said:
miniman said:
Belt change is nice and easy too.

Heavens above, I think that this image says a thousand words
That’s MDRS.

Funnily enough, that’s where my D3 is.
They posted up pictures of mine back in March as it’s getting the welding and Dinitrol treatment.

They can take a body off in about an hour or so.

They are designed to come apart, gives ultimate access to everything and gets the jobs done quicker.

It’s not as bad as it looks.
Indeed, they are designed to be split, and a good mechanic can do it quite quickly. I’ve just started following MDRS on FB and the stuff they do is incredible.

Still, as a home mechanic (without a lift) anything body off is scary - as I don’t have the facilities! I think there was a guy who did it with high lift axle stands but he must have added to the disco’s considerable weight with his massive balls to do that!
Well, you learn something every day! That is pretty amazing, I never knew that these were designed like that
Have a look at Pistonbrokes videos where he takes the body off a Range Rover Sport Mk1 (same thing just different chassis length, ACE, and tastier engine options) - he's got a subscriber with him assisting so they plod through it, but it's a good watch!

g7jtk

1,761 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Triumph Man said:
Have a look at Pistonbrokes videos where he takes the body off a Range Rover Sport Mk1 (same thing just different chassis length, ACE, and tastier engine options) - he's got a subscriber with him assisting so they plod through it, but it's a good watch!
Better still got to YouTube and watch LRTime.

Triumph Man

8,712 posts

169 months

Wednesday 8th May
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g7jtk said:
Triumph Man said:
Have a look at Pistonbrokes videos where he takes the body off a Range Rover Sport Mk1 (same thing just different chassis length, ACE, and tastier engine options) - he's got a subscriber with him assisting so they plod through it, but it's a good watch!
Better still got to YouTube and watch LRTime.
Oh indeed, their videos are excellent.

bakerstreet

4,773 posts

166 months

Thursday 9th May
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240Cup said:
So speaking to the specialist that also sells these they have sold hundred over the years but only had two fail.

And further details gleaned is that the earlier (2010ish) cars had a bad 'batch' of cranks when the failure was more prevalent and the latest ones only tend to fail if badly maintained / wrong oil used / thrashed.

What say the PH panel? The one I am looking at is a 2012 SDV6 HSE with 90k on and full main dealer and well known specialist history.

Also been told that a rebuild could be anywhere between 4 and 7K.

QP Online have apparently modded the oil channels to prevent further engine failure. From my discussions, I understand that the cheaper rebuilds use better quality shells, but oil channels remain the same.

However, that QPOL is about £12k I think and at that price point you have to wonder if its actually worth it. 2012 onwards are very desirable but won't hold their value in the same way a 2015 ULEZ compliant car will.

Basically you have to really love the LR brand to own these things and don't think buying from a Specialist guarantees you of anything because it doesn't.

You just need to go in with your eyes wide open as to how much these cars will cost you. I tell people to budget £1kpa and have a £5k slush fund in case the worst happens.


eltax91

9,899 posts

207 months

Friday 10th May
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My 2013 XS SDV6 rocked past 145k miles today. I’ve done most of the usual stuff, handbrake module, sus arms, oil return pipe, prop shaft donut and a few other non common bits like failed AC condenser etc etc

There is nothing to match them as a do it all car. I no longer need the level of practicality it offers, so once the family holiday to France is done this summer it’ll be moved on whilst the going is still good.

Maintenance wise it’s cost me 1500/ year average over the last 5 years.