FREELY. Live TV over broadband 2024

FREELY. Live TV over broadband 2024

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Ham_and_Jam

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2,258 posts

98 months

Saturday 4th May
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SpidersWeb said:
A surprisingly large number - www.ofcom.org.uk/news-centre/2023/media-nations-20... - 79% of the population watched some traditional broadcast tv at least once a week, but not necessarily for very long.


And although overall the average viewer watches just over 2 1/2 hours a day of traditional broadcast tv, for some groups the time spent viewing each day is pretty minimal with 16-24 year olds averaging only 39 minutes a day and 4-15 year olds at 41 minutes - so lots of elderly people watching Homes under the Hammer all day to push up the time to achieve the overall average.
It doesn’t surprise me, virtually everyone I know tends to watch mostly Terrestrial TV with on demand for stuff they missed.

A good Freely or similar streaming alternative would quickly change that.

snuffy

9,859 posts

285 months

Saturday 4th May
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Ham_and_Jam said:
It doesn’t surprise me, virtually everyone I know tends to watch mostly Terrestrial TV with on demand for stuff they missed.

A good Freely or similar streaming alternative would quickly change that.
Almost everything we watch is recorded on our FreeView box to be watched later. And indeed, only use catch up if I've missed something. I find catch-up utter ste, with the endless useless bd adverts at the start and at lovely intervals that you can't damn well skip. Hence recording instead.

If we do start watching something live, it will still be set to record, so leave it say 15 minutes, and then start watching, so after FFing each set of ads, it ends up finishing when it would anyay.


dan98

743 posts

114 months

Saturday 4th May
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Everyone who wants to give you their opinion on this will tell you how they stream everything and never watch the mainstream live channels.
The masses stick to watching live terrestrial TV just as they have done for decades, with the addition of catchup for those who are bothered.

Kids/teens being the exception, doing everything on apps, until they get more settled and then end up doing the same. (no surprise to see BBC3 back on Freeview).

Until a simpler option exists I can't see it changing. IPTV should be everywhere by now but it's still mired in licensing issues I suppose, both here and abroad.

blueST

4,406 posts

217 months

Saturday 4th May
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The other thing is, sometimes (even if you watch a lot of streamed stuff) you just want to stick the tv on without having to scroll through thousands of badly curated box sets and 2nd rate movies just to find something your not really going to pay attention to while you eat your tea. Just bang Pointless on BBC1, job done.

SpidersWeb

3,699 posts

174 months

Saturday 4th May
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snuffy said:
Almost everything we watch is recorded on our FreeView box to be watched later. And indeed, only use catch up if I've missed something. I find catch-up utter ste, with the endless useless bd adverts at the start and at lovely intervals that you can't damn well skip. Hence recording instead.
My recording box was disconnected some years ago following the discovery that using OpenDNS for the tv with a few selective entries would remove the adverts from streaming shows - well they have done for some years until the tv companies fix the issue.

dickymint

24,450 posts

259 months

Saturday 4th May
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Ham_and_Jam said:
SpidersWeb said:
A surprisingly large number - www.ofcom.org.uk/news-centre/2023/media-nations-20... - 79% of the population watched some traditional broadcast tv at least once a week, but not necessarily for very long.


And although overall the average viewer watches just over 2 1/2 hours a day of traditional broadcast tv, for some groups the time spent viewing each day is pretty minimal with 16-24 year olds averaging only 39 minutes a day and 4-15 year olds at 41 minutes - so lots of elderly people watching Homes under the Hammer all day to push up the time to achieve the overall average.
It doesn’t surprise me, virtually everyone I know tends to watch mostly Terrestrial TV with on demand for stuff they missed.

A good Freely or similar streaming alternative would quickly change that.
It already exists banghead

dan98

743 posts

114 months

Saturday 4th May
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dickymint said:
It already exists banghead
Only* with a specific ISP with an additional upgrade using specific hardware.
Hardly the universal solution that many are looking for.

I think you fail to see outside of your box, hence continually banging your head against it.

Mr Pointy

11,293 posts

160 months

Saturday 4th May
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dan98 said:
dickymint said:
It already exists banghead
Only* with a specific ISP with an additional upgrade using specific hardware.
Hardly the universal solution that many are looking for.

I think you fail to see outside of your box, hence continually banging your head against it.
And he still doesn't seem to have said what the cost is - just that it's £80 a month with some extras.

Teppic

7,385 posts

258 months

Saturday 4th May
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Can Freely be reported to the Advertising Standards Authority? Their blurb keeps saying that "All you need is Wi-Fi" when it should really say "All you need is Wi-Fi and a brand new Hisense TV"

mikef

4,905 posts

252 months

Saturday 4th May
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The most worrying thing about this is that Hisense is controlled by Chinese state-owned Qingdao capital fund.

So to watch BBC we have to pay the Chinese party. Something needs investigating here…

Ham_and_Jam

Original Poster:

2,258 posts

98 months

Saturday 4th May
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Teppic said:
Can Freely be reported to the Advertising Standards Authority? Their blurb keeps saying that "All you need is Wi-Fi" when it should really say "All you need is Wi-Fi and a brand new Hisense TV"
If you can be arsed

Ham_and_Jam

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2,258 posts

98 months

Saturday 4th May
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dickymint said:
It already exists banghead
Jeezus. It doesn’t exist like a
free Terrestrial service.

You’re paying a premium for it. Please tell me how to get it for free like I can currently.

James6112

4,473 posts

29 months

Saturday 4th May
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Disappointing that Freely isn’t delivering.

When will it actually be ‘Freely’ available, to say a Samsung Tv owner??

I need to move a Tv to a spot that is a pita to get an aerial to!

I am alright Jack

3,715 posts

144 months

Saturday 4th May
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Mr Pointy said:
And he still doesn't seem to have said what the cost is - just that it's £80 a month with some extras.
Yeah he did say on Tuesday, 45 quid.

768

13,751 posts

97 months

Saturday 4th May
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OutInTheShed said:
Maybe in 20 years time, there will only be a handful of live channels, which could be 'broadcast' from small local transmitters tacked on to cell sites?
I'm not sure that broadcast is any different, it can be done fine over IP. And it should and will be, and is. It's just a question of when they take the masts down.

OutInTheShed said:
As ever, it would be interesting to know what the way forward is seen to be in other countries.
There have been the equivalents of what freely is trying to do and BT have done similarly (with noted issues) for a long time in other countries. I used to work on similar hybrid IP and DVB-T/S systems that sold around the world about 15-20 years ago. The technical foundation is there, but it's the content owners trying to control distribution (and perhaps vice versa these days) that screws it.

If I were in charge there would be regulation to separate the two. I'd probably even have split iPlayer out and forced other UK TV channels onto it in return for their licence fee share. But maybe I'd be causing more problems.

dickymint

24,450 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th May
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I am alright Jack said:
Mr Pointy said:
And he still doesn't seem to have said what the cost is - just that it's £80 a month with some extras.
Yeah he did say on Tuesday, 45 quid.
Thank you wink

And people on here still don't get the fact that you have to pay for broadband to watch anything that is streamed and that includes Freely banghead

So can somebody please tell me how much it costs them to have "Freely"

TheInternet

4,730 posts

164 months

Sunday 5th May
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dickymint said:
So can somebody please tell me how much it costs them to have "Freely"
You'll be pleased to hear it's a free service.

TheInternet

4,730 posts

164 months

Sunday 5th May
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mikef said:
The most worrying thing about this is that Hisense is controlled by Chinese state-owned Qingdao capital fund.

So to watch BBC we have to pay the Chinese party. Something needs investigating here…
Or wait a short while and buy a TV from various other brands. It's still not exclusive to HiSense.

NDA

21,658 posts

226 months

Sunday 5th May
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OutInTheShed said:
I think this could be the writing on the wall for Broadcast TV.
The broadcasters are being a little coy about it, but CTV (Connected TV) is where media agencies and brands (ie 'the money) are moving. CTV allows more precise ad targeting and can be bought in a similar way to online media., priced on an accurate CPM basis, for example.

Broadcasters are currently limiting the inventory available to buy in this way as tighter/more efficient targeting means smaller buys - however it also helps smaller brands onto TV where they wouldn't be for the larger linear TV geographic regions.

It's also interesting that there is an emergence of 'gate-keeper' tech... for example, if you watch an ad on a Samsung TV, Samsung get a salami slice of the ad revenue... it's part of the reason SKY have their own TV product to enable them to keep all of the ad revenue. It's a bit like the Apple App Store model - Apple get a cut from the revenues. HiSense and Freely would be operating this model.

OutInTheShed

7,824 posts

27 months

Sunday 5th May
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TheInternet said:
OutInTheShed said:
Maybe in 20 years time, there will only be a handful of live channels, which could be 'broadcast' from small local transmitters tacked on to cell sites?
There won't be a terrestrial TV network in 20 years time; Freely is one of the prerequisites to switching it off.
Maybe.

FM radio was supposed to have been switched off ages ago.

A lot of the plans from around the turn of the century have been slow to materialise, or just plain wrong.