Alfa Giulietta QV Remap? (1.75tbi)

Alfa Giulietta QV Remap? (1.75tbi)

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Funkstar De Luxe

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790 posts

185 months

Sunday 10th July 2022
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Hello everyone!

I'm throwing around the idea of remapping the Giulietta. Ideally, I'd like a plugin box that I can remove and return to standard if needed. Does anyone know of anything like this? I'm sure I seen one years ago, but I can't find the link again

Thanks

Tony

xyyman

1,075 posts

227 months

Monday 11th July 2022
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No first hand experience but I've heard good things about Blue Spark from some of the Mito QV owners. Blue Spark offer a discount to members of AROC as well.

paulmakin

671 posts

143 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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AforAlfa were (are?) agents for Celtic Tuning.

No knowledge of their maps so i can only say that I would trust Paul's judgement in offering the product

Edited by paulmakin on Tuesday 12th July 21:45

Funkstar De Luxe

Original Poster:

790 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th July 2022
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Celtic Tuning interests me. Any one have experience with the gearbox tune?

Funkstar De Luxe

Original Poster:

790 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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paulmakin said:
AforAlfa were (are?) agents for Celtic Tuning.

No knowledge of their maps so i can only say that I would trust Paul's judgement in offering the product

Edited by paulmakin on Tuesday 12th July 21:45
I can’t get a response from AforAlfa, so I’m striking them off the list. I can only expect poor service from a company that won’t even return communication for a job 😤

paulmakin

671 posts

143 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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sorry to hear that - I spoke with him recently but no idea what might be happening now.

just had a quick 'phone around. medical leave it seems - looks like it's over-run and website/social media isnt updated


Edited by paulmakin on Thursday 4th August 19:54

Funkstar De Luxe

Original Poster:

790 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th August 2022
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paulmakin said:
sorry to hear that - I spoke with him recently but no idea what might be happening now.

just had a quick 'phone around. medical leave it seems - looks like it's over-run and website/social media isnt updated


Edited by paulmakin on Thursday 4th August 19:54
That’s a shame. Hope all is well his end

paulmakin

671 posts

143 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Actually, you may be right.

There was a tiny bit of social media activity towards the end of July - made no mention of a continued closure

Diesel_Nick

48 posts

53 months

Friday 12th August 2022
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xyyman said:
No first hand experience but I've heard good things about Blue Spark from some of the Mito QV owners. Blue Spark offer a discount to members of AROC as well.
I had a BlueSpark box fitted to my Mito 1.4T multiair (135) for a couple of years.

Made a noticable different to the performance (felt like the difference between N and D, again!)

Recommended if you want something removable/untraceable. I've also heard ocne you've sold the car you can send back to BlueSpark and they'll overwrite the your box so it'll work with whatever you've purchased next...

GTVOX

69 posts

64 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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Get it properly mapped on a rolling road. Search youtube for a product comparison of the boxes it's quite enlightening. I wouldn't use a Celtic map. Ever. Had two vehicle done -they are mainly generic maps - the first had less power than it started with and the other screwed up the fueling.

Funkstar De Luxe

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790 posts

185 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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GTVOX said:
Get it properly mapped on a rolling road. Search youtube for a product comparison of the boxes it's quite enlightening. I wouldn't use a Celtic map. Ever. Had two vehicle done -they are mainly generic maps - the first had less power than it started with and the other screwed up the fueling.
Interesting - thank you. I had, I guess wrongly, assumed the Celtic map was a rolling road remap.

Could you recommend anyone in the midlands area who can do a proper remap?

paulmakin

671 posts

143 months

Sunday 14th August 2022
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i didnt know that about Celtic - good info, many thanks

Funkstar De Luxe

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790 posts

185 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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Hi everyone,

thought I would update this topic with my experience since I posted the original question.

So after asking as many people as I could think of, Celtic Tuning was the one that received the most recommendations. I took the car to their massive and new facility in Derby. It has a new rolling road, all the bells and whistles etc.

The car now dynos at ~290bhp, 300lb/ft and revs out to 7500RPM (not that I'm doing that to be fair). Drives well, with no flat spots or issues. I've done about 500 miles since the remap - so still early days to be fair. Although even the LSD and PS2s struggle to keep her straight when under full throttle now (all part of the fun)

I also opted for the gearbox tweaks too, which have made a world of difference to how the car feels. Changes are quicker, snapper and the whole thing feels a lot tighter.

I'm pretty happy with it now. I will update if anything borks - but I don't drive it that hard really.

paulmakin

671 posts

143 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Hmm. Might think again about doing mine on that basis.

Is your map what they refer to as the "Stage 1" which has then been tweaked on the rollers or was it entirely custom written ?

Edited by paulmakin on Tuesday 16th May 21:10

Funkstar De Luxe

Original Poster:

790 posts

185 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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paulmakin said:
Hmm. Might think again about doing mine on that basis.

Is your map what they refer to as the "Stage 1" which has then been tweaked on the rollers or was it entirely custom written ?

Edited by paulmakin on Tuesday 16th May 21:10
It’s what they call stage 1 which is tweaked on the rolling road.

If you know what the engine is, there’s no need for a custom tune - just tweak the parameters

CarlosSainz100

523 posts

122 months

Wednesday 17th May 2023
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Interesting.....how much was it if you don't mind me asking?

And do you notice the extra power ? Is it setup for outright speed or 30-60mph ooomph?

Funkstar De Luxe

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790 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th May 2023
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I can’t remember. The total was around £340 I think. That’s the tune, rolling road and gearbox mod.

Yes, noticeable difference. Better delivery of torque and quicker shifts. It certainly feels a lot faster to me. The rolling road does show good tangible improvements

Funkstar De Luxe

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790 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd June 2023
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2000 miles in, and no problems so far. An 800-mile trip back and forth to Scotland, 38mpg.

Gearbox still isn't perfect but is slightly less dimwitted overall.

Funkstar De Luxe

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790 posts

185 months

Sunday 2nd July 2023
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Last update. Another 800 back and forth to Scotland. Averaged 39.8mpg on 99 octane. So no real change in consumption.

I must state, this was driving very conservatively. Like Thatcher, almost.

the-norseman

12,570 posts

173 months

Thursday 16th May
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I'm thinking about getting Celtic on my Giulietta 1.4 150.

AforAlfa are one of my local dealers but might be tempted to go to Derby.