Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister
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lauda said:
turbobloke said:
carlo996 said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I said I find it a little odd and people obviously do get bothered by it else why is McVey banging on about it as part of her "war on woke".
Honestly go ask 100 people what things they want the Government to focus on because they impact their lives.
The lanyards Civil Servants wear isn't going to be one of them.
Ironically it was you bleating about it on this very thread. Is anyone else mildly bothered, not really. Although in a business environment I’m not sure why anyone would feel the need to display various personal information. Honestly go ask 100 people what things they want the Government to focus on because they impact their lives.
The lanyards Civil Servants wear isn't going to be one of them.
https://fee.org/articles/virtue-signaling-isnt-vir...
“They can’t possibly really care about supporting ***insert any marginalised group or cause*** that because I couldn’t give a s
t about it myself. They’re virtue signalling”Same as people who use ‘woke’ as an insult. Always said by the people who don’t give a s
t about anyone but themselves. carlo996 said:
p1stonhead said:
Same as people who use ‘woke’ as an insult. Always said by the people who don’t give a st about anyone but themselves.
You mean like those that profile using their own judgements t about anyone but themselves. 
ker, is perfectly reasonable ESPECIALLY like McVey who is using OUR money to fight these stupid culture wars while the country burns The state of this;
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 16th May 19:14
p1stonhead said:
carlo996 said:
p1stonhead said:
Same as people who use ‘woke’ as an insult. Always said by the people who don’t give a st about anyone but themselves.
You mean like those that profile using their own judgements t about anyone but themselves. ker, is perfectly reasonable Also reasonable is judging virtue signalling as virtue signalling. As per a link posted not long ago, virtue signalling is a known phenomenon and not a virtuous thing to do.
A comment in general on a type of behaviour, where nobody was named, attracts the permanently offended as seen here. Taking the hump and reverting to juvenile responses requires somebody to identify themselves with a comment. It happens.
turbobloke said:
p1stonhead said:
carlo996 said:
p1stonhead said:
Same as people who use ‘woke’ as an insult. Always said by the people who don’t give a st about anyone but themselves.
You mean like those that profile using their own judgements t about anyone but themselves. ker, is perfectly reasonable Also reasonable is judging virtue signalling as virtue signalling. As per a link posted not long ago, virtue signalling is a known phenomenon and not a virtuous thing to do.
A comment in general on a type of behaviour, where nobody was named, attracts the permanently offended as seen here. Taking the hump and reverting to juvenile responses requires somebody to identify themselves with a comment. It happens.
p1stonhead said:
carlo996 said:
p1stonhead said:
Same as people who use ‘woke’ as an insult. Always said by the people who don’t give a st about anyone but themselves.
You mean like those that profile using their own judgements t about anyone but themselves. ker, is perfectly reasonable ESPECIALLY like McVey who is using OUR money to fight these stupid culture wars while the country burns The state of this;
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 16th May 19:14
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28
It's irritating how the dumbos (on this occasion right wing dumbos) have taken a phrase that had a specific meaning,"virtue signalling', and used it to mean something completely different in spite of the fact that we already had perfectly good ways to describe what these plonkers started calling "virtue signalling'". It originally meant an animal (could be an human animal) showing off to potential mates by making a display of how much energy they could afford to waste. E.g. a peacock growing and waggling an enormous tail, or Harry Enfield's character wandering around shouting about how much money he's got and that he can waste it 'cause he's got loads more. That's "virtue signalling". Pretending you care about a particular social issue much more than everyone else does and that that makes you a better person than everyone else and that this needs to be recognised is called "being a tt".
t".p1stonhead said:
carlo996 said:
p1stonhead said:
Same as people who use ‘woke’ as an insult. Always said by the people who don’t give a st about anyone but themselves.
You mean like those that profile using their own judgements t about anyone but themselves. ker, is perfectly reasonable ESPECIALLY like McVey who is using OUR money to fight these stupid culture wars while the country burns The state of this;
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 16th May 19:14
Mr Penguin said:
Are parents not able to see material used in class now? I would usually take worksheets with me and my parents were able to look at my work.
Of course they are. They bring their books etc home with them for homework. And if any normal parent has any concerns they just talk to the teacher.
Not the Tories though. They know best.
Invent an issue.
Get Daily Mail et al to report on it.
Claim there are reports out there saying the issue is bad.
Tackle the invented issue with nonsense.
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 16th May 20:23
Mr Penguin said:
Are parents not able to see material used in class now? I would usually take worksheets with me and my parents were able to look at my work.
We certainly were, when the school were at the point of offering the stuff they're now trying to ban (year 5 or 6 IIRC) parents were invited to a meeting where it was discussed, materials shared and an option to exclude your child given.It seemed well considered, didn't cover anything it didn't need to and was more geared towards safeguarding and awareness than anything specifically sexy.
In contrast I was told about African clawed toad reproduction at 12 and the headmaster gave us an awkward 30 minute talk at 13.
The problem is you do your best as a parent but then some little prat that's been playing COD from 6 with unrestricted access to the entire Internet is in the same class at secondary school and ruins it all anyway.
p1stonhead said:
Of course they are. They bring their books etc home with them for homework.
And if any normal parent has any concerns they just talk to the teacher.
Not the Tories though. They know best.
Invent an issue.
Get Daily Mail et al to report on it.
Claim there are reports out there saying the issue is bad.
Tackle the invented issue with nonsense.
It’s called vacuity-signallingAnd if any normal parent has any concerns they just talk to the teacher.
Not the Tories though. They know best.
Invent an issue.
Get Daily Mail et al to report on it.
Claim there are reports out there saying the issue is bad.
Tackle the invented issue with nonsense.
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 16th May 20:23
Mr Penguin said:
Are parents not able to see material used in class now? I would usually take worksheets with me and my parents were able to look at my work.
No, woke leftists with moral superiority complexes brainwash children in secret classes into thinking nonsense like climate change exists. That's why the vivid vaccine was so important, leftists reprogramming people DNA to be more subservient.lauda said:
The point that I, and other posters, have made is that virtue signalling doesn’t matter. That’s why Esther McVey needs to stop worrying about it and turn her attention to some serious matters of government that actually do matter.
Depends on how it's done. If it's a lanyard or poppy or something else quite passive then it's fine. More performative acts done to be seen to hold the trendy opinion should be discouraged and where something is stated with the aim to profit then it is wrong.It is interesting how different acts of virtue signalling are interpreted even if they are functionally the same
Red poppy - fine
Lanyard - fine
T shirt - probably avoid engaging on the topic because a rant will soon follow
Car sticker - American but will probably start a rant
White poppy - contrarian bore
Laptop stickers - listening to their political beliefs will be boring and predictable but more interesting than the alternative topic of back end web design
I was shocked to learn that Esther McVey had made it to cabinet because she isn't very bright or has interesting ideas but is very loud.
Killboy said:
Mr Penguin said:
Are parents not able to see material used in class now? I would usually take worksheets with me and my parents were able to look at my work.
No, woke leftists with moral superiority complexes brainwash children in secret classes into thinking nonsense like climate change exists. That's why the vivid vaccine was so important, leftists reprogramming people DNA to be more subservient.
hyperstrawpersonRandy Winkman said:
Sunak on TV today saying they didn't have all this stuff in school in his day. Couldn't help think, well no st, he grew up during section 28.Mr Penguin said:
Are parents not able to see material used in class now? I would usually take worksheets with me and my parents were able to look at my work.
I don’t live in UK but isn’t that a standard thing.Most of my daughter’s curriculum is on Google Classroom.
Plus if I’m early to pick her up I sometimes have a sit at back of one of the classes. It’s usually English or Science.
In fact, thinking about it, I can request any info at any time. We have access to all the maths as she has an extra maths tutor.
Also we had to make a choice between Religious studies or Moral studies (one lesson a week).
Since religious one wasn’t comparative - she have to choose from one of three - we went with Moral studies. Principle emailed me course for the year.
Was fine as not really morals as such (entirely subjective) but how to be a decent person, respect others etc.
Edited by jdw100 on Friday 17th May 01:07
Mr Penguin said:
It is interesting how different acts of virtue signalling are interpreted even if they are functionally the same
Red poppy - fine
Wow, never did I think a red poppy would be "virtue signalling". I got a blue poppy on Tuesday for dementia awareness week while at the local memory day facility with the MIL, I guess I'm virtue signalling?Red poppy - fine
Killboy said:
Mr Penguin said:
It is interesting how different acts of virtue signalling are interpreted even if they are functionally the same
Red poppy - fine
Wow, never did I think a red poppy would be "virtue signalling". I got a blue poppy on Tuesday for dementia awareness week while at the local memory day facility with the MIL, I guess I'm virtue signalling?Red poppy - fine
We had a childhood (2 year old) in our family and also my dad had bowel cancer. We’ve all done things to support cancer charities….but my personal choice is not to wear a badge or t-shirt etc.
I have done my best to support gay colleagues over the years, because I have friends that grew up in the 70s and 80s and it was grim in many ways. There is still prejudice there, whatever we might like to think. Again, I wouldn’t wear a rainbow thmed tie or lanyard though.
A lot of this ‘signalling’ now, in my opinion, is from the sorts of people that use Facebook and Instagram all the time…look at me! Look at me! I’m supporting this thing! Look at me! Give me likes!
You support through your deeds, not by wearing a badge or a t-shirt.
Another day on Rishi watch. I note that some of the other posters tie themselves in knots wittering on about Lanyards. They should take a lesson from Rishi's book and get on with the job ahead.
Rishi is clearly committed to his job and I note that he has stated that he will stay on as an MP he loses the election. I say well done Rishi there is way to much of this quiting business going around.
If any MP's do that crossing the floor stunt today I will be very surprised.
Looking at the broader political spectrum the conservatives could have a surprise win in the Islington North constituency. For those who think "that place rings a bell where is it" It's next to Islington South which has a wonderful MP.
Where it is isn't the important thing. it's who it's MP is and it's currently Jeremy Corbyn. How fortunes have changed for Jeremy 5 years ago her may have been thinking I could just get to be PM. Now he has been thrown out of his party and standing as an independent
Labour have put forward Paul Mason known to many as that whining lefttie who reviews the papers and whinges about everything he is asked about.
By putting such a chap up then Labour '24 may well split the vote and a Conservative candidate could just sail through and take the seat. .
Mr Corbyns vote was 29,120 more than the Conservative candidates but it's possible a split vote could mean a Tory win.
They last won in 1931
Paul Mason may be praying for victory:
Rishi is clearly committed to his job and I note that he has stated that he will stay on as an MP he loses the election. I say well done Rishi there is way to much of this quiting business going around.
If any MP's do that crossing the floor stunt today I will be very surprised.
Looking at the broader political spectrum the conservatives could have a surprise win in the Islington North constituency. For those who think "that place rings a bell where is it" It's next to Islington South which has a wonderful MP.
Where it is isn't the important thing. it's who it's MP is and it's currently Jeremy Corbyn. How fortunes have changed for Jeremy 5 years ago her may have been thinking I could just get to be PM. Now he has been thrown out of his party and standing as an independent
Labour have put forward Paul Mason known to many as that whining lefttie who reviews the papers and whinges about everything he is asked about.
By putting such a chap up then Labour '24 may well split the vote and a Conservative candidate could just sail through and take the seat. .
Mr Corbyns vote was 29,120 more than the Conservative candidates but it's possible a split vote could mean a Tory win.
They last won in 1931
Paul Mason may be praying for victory:
Edited by anonymoususer on Friday 17th May 07:03
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