Mr Bates vs The Post Office
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vaud said:
How did his PA have access and login to his PC? It was his username on the Outlook cache / email.
Or is he just lying...
he is lying - needs a technical expert to point that out.Or is he just lying...
The secretary would have had access to his account linked into her own account, if she opened the doc then it would also appear in her temporary cache. His only possible out would be that she access his PC and opened/printed the document. If that had been a common occurance I am sure he would have already said it.
simon_harris said:
he is lying - needs a technical expert to point that out.
The secretary would have had access to his account linked into her own account, if she opened the doc then it would also appear in her temporary cache. His only possible out would be that she access his PC and opened/printed the document. If that had been a common occurance I am sure he would have already said it.
On the recent emails she can send emails on his behalf.The secretary would have had access to his account linked into her own account, if she opened the doc then it would also appear in her temporary cache. His only possible out would be that she access his PC and opened/printed the document. If that had been a common occurance I am sure he would have already said it.
So whoever printed the document either
1) He did it
2) She printed it on his PC
3) She had his user name and password and was able to log on to his account
Given she could send emails on his behalf, there is little point to 3) and so it was 1) or 2) ?
vaud said:
simon_harris said:
he is lying - needs a technical expert to point that out.
The secretary would have had access to his account linked into her own account, if she opened the doc then it would also appear in her temporary cache. His only possible out would be that she access his PC and opened/printed the document. If that had been a common occurance I am sure he would have already said it.
On the recent emails she can send emails on his behalf.The secretary would have had access to his account linked into her own account, if she opened the doc then it would also appear in her temporary cache. His only possible out would be that she access his PC and opened/printed the document. If that had been a common occurance I am sure he would have already said it.
So whoever printed the document either
1) He did it
2) She printed it on his PC
3) She had his user name and password and was able to log on to his account
Given she could send emails on his behalf, there is little point to 3) and so it was 1) or 2) ?
kups) that given the document link was to his profile it was on his PC, it is not inconceivable that it is a profile for his account on her PC but that would mean that she would have to logout and back in as him to print/send etc and that is A) unlikely and B) would probably have been mentioned where they found that profile.Is there a lawyer in the country that hand on heart doesn't know the basics when it comes to instructing an expert witness (in that they know there is a process to follow) surely that is covered as part of the law degree, and if you're asked to do it you'd open up the law books and check what you're meant to do to refresh your memory.
Not one solicitor or barrister involved in the Misra case apparently knew how to instruct an expert witness, it's a blatant lie and an insult to the inquiry and their profession,
Not one solicitor or barrister involved in the Misra case apparently knew how to instruct an expert witness, it's a blatant lie and an insult to the inquiry and their profession,
Edited by Wills2 on Friday 3rd May 12:35
simon_harris said:
pretty much exactly it. one would assume (yes I know assumption is the mother of all fkups) that given the document link was to his profile it was on his PC, it is not inconceivable that it is a profile for his account on her PC but that would mean that she would have to logout and back in as him to print/send etc and that is A) unlikely and B) would probably have been mentioned where they found that profile.
The file was sourced from his own physical hard drive from his own computer. kups) that given the document link was to his profile it was on his PC, it is not inconceivable that it is a profile for his account on her PC but that would mean that she would have to logout and back in as him to print/send etc and that is A) unlikely and B) would probably have been mentioned where they found that profile.vaud said:
732NM said:
The file was sourced from his own physical hard drive from his own computer.
Are you sure? The path certainly refers to his login profile, but a profile name would be created on the PAs PC if she logged in to his account from her PC?732NM said:
vaud said:
732NM said:
The file was sourced from his own physical hard drive from his own computer.
Are you sure? The path certainly refers to his login profile, but a profile name would be created on the PAs PC if she logged in to his account from her PC?
Just dipping in here.
There’s something I don’t get. Folk like these would have us plebs believe that they earn the big bucks because they’re the only ones with the brains, ability and backbone to make the big decisions. Yet, here we are: their name quite literally on the on the fking paperwork, yet they don’t know a thing about it and suddenly they’re as useful as a chocolate teapot.
s, the lot of ‘em.
There’s something I don’t get. Folk like these would have us plebs believe that they earn the big bucks because they’re the only ones with the brains, ability and backbone to make the big decisions. Yet, here we are: their name quite literally on the on the f
king paperwork, yet they don’t know a thing about it and suddenly they’re as useful as a chocolate teapot.s, the lot of ‘em.I've just had a scoot through some of the highlights of this morning's session. Absolutely extraordinary performance from JS - he reminds me of Hugh Abbot from The Thick of It. So obviously out of his depth and desperate not to be pinned for something he's so obviously been responsible for.
vaud said:
732NM said:
The file was sourced from his own physical hard drive from his own computer.
Are you sure? The path certainly refers to his login profile, but a profile name would be created on the PAs PC if she logged in to his account from her PC?Just been catching up on today's events so far.
Obviously he's lying through his teeth the whole time.
One thing that gets me is that, like a naughty child, he spends the whole time looking down at the desk/screen infront of him. I don't think he has once looked Mr Beer in the eye the whole time he's been answering his questions.
Obviously he's lying through his teeth the whole time.
One thing that gets me is that, like a naughty child, he spends the whole time looking down at the desk/screen infront of him. I don't think he has once looked Mr Beer in the eye the whole time he's been answering his questions.
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