Teacher guilty of sex with two boys
Discussion
OzzyR1 said:
From the article linked in the OP, she bought one of them a Gucci belt for £330!
Assume something like this:
https://www.gucci.com/uk/en_gb/pr/men/accessories-...
£330 for a leather belt that looks identical to a £30 leather belt except for a small logo.
Others on the Gucci site are £500!
Am I tight or is £330+ on a plain leather belt (albeit with a Gucci logo) absurd?
https://viz.fandom.com/wiki/Roger_IrrelevantAssume something like this:
https://www.gucci.com/uk/en_gb/pr/men/accessories-...
£330 for a leather belt that looks identical to a £30 leather belt except for a small logo.
Others on the Gucci site are £500!
Am I tight or is £330+ on a plain leather belt (albeit with a Gucci logo) absurd?
Mr Penguin said:
OzzyR1 said:
From the article linked in the OP, she bought one of them a Gucci belt for £330!
Assume something like this:
https://www.gucci.com/uk/en_gb/pr/men/accessories-...
£330 for a leather belt that looks identical to a £30 leather belt except for a small logo.
Others on the Gucci site are £500!
Am I tight or is £330+ on a plain leather belt (albeit with a Gucci logo) absurd?
Gucci products (and other big brands) are usually very poor quality and you do pay for the name.Assume something like this:
https://www.gucci.com/uk/en_gb/pr/men/accessories-...
£330 for a leather belt that looks identical to a £30 leather belt except for a small logo.
Others on the Gucci site are £500!
Am I tight or is £330+ on a plain leather belt (albeit with a Gucci logo) absurd?
Chris Type R said:
OzzyR1 said:
Am I tight or is £330+ on a plain leather belt (albeit with a Gucci logo) absurd?
If nothing else It demonstrates a pattern of poor judgement and bad decision making.Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Friday 17th May 19:45
This happened not so recently at my school.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-4...
Unfortunately I left in 2002!
And to think we are currently looking at moving in to the catchment, and paying over the odds for it, so my son can go. He’s 20 months old!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-4...
Unfortunately I left in 2002!
And to think we are currently looking at moving in to the catchment, and paying over the odds for it, so my son can go. He’s 20 months old!
Louis Balfour said:
Mr Penguin said:
OzzyR1 said:
From the article linked in the OP, she bought one of them a Gucci belt for £330!
Assume something like this:
https://www.gucci.com/uk/en_gb/pr/men/accessories-...
£330 for a leather belt that looks identical to a £30 leather belt except for a small logo.
Others on the Gucci site are £500!
Am I tight or is £330+ on a plain leather belt (albeit with a Gucci logo) absurd?
Gucci products (and other big brands) are usually very poor quality and you do pay for the name.Assume something like this:
https://www.gucci.com/uk/en_gb/pr/men/accessories-...
£330 for a leather belt that looks identical to a £30 leather belt except for a small logo.
Others on the Gucci site are £500!
Am I tight or is £330+ on a plain leather belt (albeit with a Gucci logo) absurd?
I have a Gucci belt which is very good quality and of a design where it’s not possible to know it’s Gucci.
Bringing us back on topic, I’m concerned what I had to do to earn my Gucci belt.
Sentencing guidelines https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...
Category 1 because of penetration
Culpability A because of teacher/pupil and grooming
Aggravating factors of being on bail when committing the offence, ejaculation, pregnancy
Mitigating factors of no previous convictions, mental disorder (she's clearly thick as pig st)
Starting point 5 years and a range of 4-10 years.
My prediction is 6 years in chokey.
Category 1 because of penetration
Culpability A because of teacher/pupil and grooming
Aggravating factors of being on bail when committing the offence, ejaculation, pregnancy
Mitigating factors of no previous convictions, mental disorder (she's clearly thick as pig st)
Starting point 5 years and a range of 4-10 years.
My prediction is 6 years in chokey.
Rufus Stone said:
rossub said:
He’s looking at it from the perspective of when he was 15. Having sex with a pretty teacher when I was 15 would have made me a god among my peers.
You don’t like it, but it’s true.
Also, sex at 15 is legal in an awful lot of countries.
But not the UK. Do you consider the boys victims?You don’t like it, but it’s true.
Also, sex at 15 is legal in an awful lot of countries.
I’d slept with women of a similar age to this teacher when I was 15. I certainly don’t feel like I was groomed by them.
But your faux-piousness does genuinely raise several moral conundrums.
If it was a 28 year old male teacher with a 15 year old girl, many would be up in arms, (hypocritically, myself included).
The law is the law, and should be applied equally to all, (although often isn’t).
There can’t be equality between men and women if women get a light touch or a free pass on certain things.
If I had a 15 year old son who was banging a reasonably decent looking 28 year old female teacher, I’d probably be high-fiving the lucky bd.
If this had happened to my daughter in a couple of years when she turned 15……well, I wouldn’t be phoning the Police and the end result wouldn’t be cinematic.
Yep, it’s a bit of a tricky one. Best add me to your list as seen as I’m not immediately indignant with faux rage.
BikeBikeBIke said:
Chris Type R said:
OzzyR1 said:
Am I tight or is £330+ on a plain leather belt (albeit with a Gucci logo) absurd?
If nothing else It demonstrates a pattern of poor judgement and bad decision making.Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Friday 17th May 19:45
105.4 said:
Rufus Stone said:
rossub said:
He’s looking at it from the perspective of when he was 15. Having sex with a pretty teacher when I was 15 would have made me a god among my peers.
You don’t like it, but it’s true.
Also, sex at 15 is legal in an awful lot of countries.
But not the UK. Do you consider the boys victims?You don’t like it, but it’s true.
Also, sex at 15 is legal in an awful lot of countries.
I’d slept with women of a similar age to this teacher when I was 15. I certainly don’t feel like I was groomed by them.
But your faux-piousness does genuinely raise several moral conundrums.
If it was a 28 year old male teacher with a 15 year old girl, many would be up in arms, (hypocritically, myself included).
The law is the law, and should be applied equally to all, (although often isn’t).
There can’t be equality between men and women if women get a light touch or a free pass on certain things.
If I had a 15 year old son who was banging a reasonably decent looking 28 year old female teacher, I’d probably be high-fiving the lucky bd.
If this had happened to my daughter in a couple of years when she turned 15……well, I wouldn’t be phoning the Police and the end result wouldn’t be cinematic.
Yep, it’s a bit of a tricky one. Best add me to your list as seen as I’m not immediately indignant with faux rage.
105.4 said:
Actually, I don’t.
I’d slept with women of a similar age to this teacher when I was 15. I certainly don’t feel like I was groomed by them.
But your faux-piousness does genuinely raise several moral conundrums.
If it was a 28 year old male teacher with a 15 year old girl, many would be up in arms, (hypocritically, myself included).
The law is the law, and should be applied equally to all, (although often isn’t).
There can’t be equality between men and women if women get a light touch or a free pass on certain things.
If I had a 15 year old son who was banging a reasonably decent looking 28 year old female teacher, I’d probably be high-fiving the lucky bd.
If this had happened to my daughter in a couple of years when she turned 15……well, I wouldn’t be phoning the Police and the end result wouldn’t be cinematic.
Yep, it’s a bit of a tricky one. Best add me to your list as seen as I’m not immediately indignant with faux rage.
Perhaps you don't understand the position of responsibility teachers are put in to protect children, and the obvious grooming through gifts that went on here.I’d slept with women of a similar age to this teacher when I was 15. I certainly don’t feel like I was groomed by them.
But your faux-piousness does genuinely raise several moral conundrums.
If it was a 28 year old male teacher with a 15 year old girl, many would be up in arms, (hypocritically, myself included).
The law is the law, and should be applied equally to all, (although often isn’t).
There can’t be equality between men and women if women get a light touch or a free pass on certain things.
If I had a 15 year old son who was banging a reasonably decent looking 28 year old female teacher, I’d probably be high-fiving the lucky bd.
If this had happened to my daughter in a couple of years when she turned 15……well, I wouldn’t be phoning the Police and the end result wouldn’t be cinematic.
Yep, it’s a bit of a tricky one. Best add me to your list as seen as I’m not immediately indignant with faux rage.
It's not quite drinking underage in the pub and being taken for a quick ride by the local mutton.
Evanivitch said:
105.4 said:
Actually, I don’t.
I’d slept with women of a similar age to this teacher when I was 15. I certainly don’t feel like I was groomed by them.
But your faux-piousness does genuinely raise several moral conundrums.
If it was a 28 year old male teacher with a 15 year old girl, many would be up in arms, (hypocritically, myself included).
The law is the law, and should be applied equally to all, (although often isn’t).
There can’t be equality between men and women if women get a light touch or a free pass on certain things.
If I had a 15 year old son who was banging a reasonably decent looking 28 year old female teacher, I’d probably be high-fiving the lucky bd.
If this had happened to my daughter in a couple of years when she turned 15……well, I wouldn’t be phoning the Police and the end result wouldn’t be cinematic.
Yep, it’s a bit of a tricky one. Best add me to your list as seen as I’m not immediately indignant with faux rage.
Perhaps you don't understand the position of responsibility teachers are put in to protect children, and the obvious grooming through gifts that went on here.I’d slept with women of a similar age to this teacher when I was 15. I certainly don’t feel like I was groomed by them.
But your faux-piousness does genuinely raise several moral conundrums.
If it was a 28 year old male teacher with a 15 year old girl, many would be up in arms, (hypocritically, myself included).
The law is the law, and should be applied equally to all, (although often isn’t).
There can’t be equality between men and women if women get a light touch or a free pass on certain things.
If I had a 15 year old son who was banging a reasonably decent looking 28 year old female teacher, I’d probably be high-fiving the lucky bd.
If this had happened to my daughter in a couple of years when she turned 15……well, I wouldn’t be phoning the Police and the end result wouldn’t be cinematic.
Yep, it’s a bit of a tricky one. Best add me to your list as seen as I’m not immediately indignant with faux rage.
It's not quite drinking underage in the pub and being taken for a quick ride by the local mutton.
I think the above poster is not arguing that what she did was very wrong, it is just that the boys may not feel like victims.
bhstewie said:
Change the thread title to “Male Teacher Guilty of Sex with Two 15 year old Boys” and see how many people would be saying "lucky bds" and "they would have loved it”.
Some people here clearly can’t tell right from wrong.
....and some people here clearly can't tell natural situation from an unnatural situation.Some people here clearly can’t tell right from wrong.
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