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Get the population to move to a new area.
Screen/Interview at the checkpoint.
Any Hamas terrorists, detain or execute them.
I guess that’s what is being done on the ground.
Get the population to move to a new area.
Screen/Interview at the checkpoint.
Any Hamas terrorists, detain or execute them.
I guess that’s what is being done on the ground.
fizz47 said:
As the IDF has shown at every turn telling the truth doesn’t apply to them or making claims that consistently get debunked after a few days let’s see what evidence they provide to back up their most recent claims…
Oh, one couldn't believe a word from the Israeli army or any Israeli spokes person. It's got the stage it's nearly not worth bothering to debunk their statements, just presume they're false is the best course of action. fizz47 said:
at every turn telling the truth doesn’t apply to them
.. like many of the posters on here!A classic example of the BS on here is Atmospheric stating above that 'Hamas was registered in Israel in 1979' in bold.
A quick browse on Wikipedia :- "In 1973, the Islamic charity Mujama al-Islamiya was established in Gaza by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and the organization was recognized by Israel in 1979."
Well given it was a charidee in 1979 that is hardly sinister. We have plenty of dodgy ones in the UK but you can't ban a charity until it has done something wrong.
fido said:
fizz47 said:
at every turn telling the truth doesn’t apply to them
.. like many of the posters on here!A classic example of the BS on here is Atmospheric stating above that 'Hamas was registered in Israel in 1979' in bold.
A quick browse on Wikipedia :- "In 1973, the Islamic charity Mujama al-Islamiya was established in Gaza by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and the organization was recognized by Israel in 1979."
Well given it was a charidee in 1979 that is hardly sinister. We have plenty of dodgy ones in the UK but you can't ban a charity until it has done something wrong.
Try reading the article I posted from 2009.
Atmospheric said:
fido said:
fizz47 said:
at every turn telling the truth doesn’t apply to them
.. like many of the posters on here!A classic example of the BS on here is Atmospheric stating above that 'Hamas was registered in Israel in 1979' in bold.
A quick browse on Wikipedia :- "In 1973, the Islamic charity Mujama al-Islamiya was established in Gaza by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and the organization was recognized by Israel in 1979."
Well given it was a charidee in 1979 that is hardly sinister. We have plenty of dodgy ones in the UK but you can't ban a charity until it has done something wrong.
Try reading the article I posted from 2009.
Perhaps you should actually try reading the article from an objective viewpoint, rather than "Zionist conspiracy".
Hamas in the 1970s was not the Hamas of today. It appeared uninterested in armed conflict, and more interested in charitable causes.
It may have been a mistake to tolerate them in hindsight, but hindsight is 20/20. Just look at the US funding Afghan Mujahideen in the 80s!
McGee_22 said:
fizz47 said:
As the IDF Hamas has shown at every turn telling the truth doesn’t apply to them or making claims that consistently get debunked after a few days let’s see what evidence they provide to back up their most recent claims…
FTFYhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-69014...
Revised breakdown of the casualty figures in Gaza. Many fewer women and children killed in the new figures used by the UN .
Revised breakdown of the casualty figures in Gaza. Many fewer women and children killed in the new figures used by the UN .
It's increasingly apparent the violence perpetrated by Israel has almost no support anywhere in the world. Thousands of people of every race, colour and religion march on the streets every week, including in Israel itself.
Every criticism of Israel is met by wild accusations of antisemitism but that "get out of jail free" card is grossly overplayed.
In UK there are regular, peaceful demonstrations on the streets but the government isn't listening - which is why the demonstrations continue. And now pro-Israel apologists are trying to get the demonstrations shut down.
The link posted above - only 30,000 killed according to Netanyahu, well that must be alright then. No, it isn't alright; neither is the lie that all of this started on 7/10/23. And Israel's conduct on the West Bank is also not alright. It's all wrong. Unless and until these things are recognised by the Israelis there will be no solution, regardless of how many people they kill and how many homes they destroy.
Every criticism of Israel is met by wild accusations of antisemitism but that "get out of jail free" card is grossly overplayed.
In UK there are regular, peaceful demonstrations on the streets but the government isn't listening - which is why the demonstrations continue. And now pro-Israel apologists are trying to get the demonstrations shut down.
The link posted above - only 30,000 killed according to Netanyahu, well that must be alright then. No, it isn't alright; neither is the lie that all of this started on 7/10/23. And Israel's conduct on the West Bank is also not alright. It's all wrong. Unless and until these things are recognised by the Israelis there will be no solution, regardless of how many people they kill and how many homes they destroy.
Panamax said:
It's increasingly apparent the violence perpetrated by Israel has almost no support anywhere in the world. Thousands of people of every race, colour and religion march on the streets every week, including in Israel itself.
Every criticism of Israel is met by wild accusations of antisemitism but that "get out of jail free" card is grossly overplayed.
In UK there are regular, peaceful demonstrations on the streets but the government isn't listening - which is why the demonstrations continue. And now pro-Israel apologists are trying to get the demonstrations shut down.
The link posted above - only 30,000 killed according to Netanyahu, well that must be alright then. No, it isn't alright; neither is the lie that all of this started on 7/10/23. And Israel's conduct on the West Bank is also not alright. It's all wrong. Unless and until these things are recognised by the Israelis there will be no solution, regardless of how many people they kill and how many homes they destroy.
What a wonderful balanced post. Oh wait, not a single mention of the wrongs the Palestinians have and are perpetuating. Every criticism of Israel is met by wild accusations of antisemitism but that "get out of jail free" card is grossly overplayed.
In UK there are regular, peaceful demonstrations on the streets but the government isn't listening - which is why the demonstrations continue. And now pro-Israel apologists are trying to get the demonstrations shut down.
The link posted above - only 30,000 killed according to Netanyahu, well that must be alright then. No, it isn't alright; neither is the lie that all of this started on 7/10/23. And Israel's conduct on the West Bank is also not alright. It's all wrong. Unless and until these things are recognised by the Israelis there will be no solution, regardless of how many people they kill and how many homes they destroy.
Panamax said:
It's increasingly apparent the violence perpetrated by Israel has almost no support anywhere in the world. Thousands of people of every race, colour and religion march on the streets every week, including in Israel itself.
Almost no support. You must live in some sort of bubble.For those who like to read.
To conflate Judaism and Zionism is anti-semitic. Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism.
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To conflate Judaism and Zionism is anti-semitic. Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism.
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Edited by Atmospheric on Sunday 19th May 12:47
Vanden Saab said:
Oh wait, not a single mention of the wrongs the Palestinians have and are perpetuating.
What Israel and its handful of supporters consistently fail to address is "why" the Palestinians/Hamas did what they did. They're stuck with trotting out, "but, but, but look what Hamas did on 7 October and you've failed to mention that in every sentence of every paragraph". It's blatantly obvious and has frequently been said on here that the actions on 7 October were "wrong". That doesn't mean decades of apartheid regime followed by slaughtering 30,000 people while displacing others on the West Bank is "right". It looks to me as though Israel is a whole lot more "wrong" than the Palestinians.As for Israeli support, it's decreasing daily across the globe. Not unexpected considering the current atrocities and the past atrocities the Israeli's have perpetrated on the Palestinians.
Oct 7 has shined a massive spotlight on the Palestinian cause and the spotlight of shame is clearly on Israel. I doubt never before has Israel been under such scrutiny from all quarters, even Americans!
Oct 7 has shined a massive spotlight on the Palestinian cause and the spotlight of shame is clearly on Israel. I doubt never before has Israel been under such scrutiny from all quarters, even Americans!
JJJ. said:
As for Israeli support, it's decreasing daily across the globe. Not unexpected considering the current atrocities and the past atrocities the Israeli's have perpetrated on the Palestinians.
Oct 7 has shined a massive spotlight on the Palestinian cause and the spotlight of shame is clearly on Israel. I doubt never before has Israel been under such scrutiny from all quarters, even Americans!
How many people have died in Yemen? but that is OK it is not the Israelis who are doing the bombing.Oct 7 has shined a massive spotlight on the Palestinian cause and the spotlight of shame is clearly on Israel. I doubt never before has Israel been under such scrutiny from all quarters, even Americans!
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