Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?
Discussion
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
What about the mindset of those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry or competing point of view.
And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
They are the CT's. Its a totally accurate definition.And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
PurplePenguin said:
What about the mindset of those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry or competing point of view.
And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
This group is tiny almost non existent, a CT, a true CT will try and convince their peers that the world is binary ... that its them and every one else who blindly believes the government blanket. I have never met a single person, who blindly believes the government completely on everything. They might believe some and not other parts of the comms, but not blindly all.And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
This really isn't a thing. Yet is recycled over and over.
It is a big thing that a CT needs to create in their small groups, that its them and this single other group.
coldel said:
They
Its such a powerful word in the world of a CT. When you read the evidence presented, instead of citing an individual, or a definable group, its simply taken back to 'They'
It allows spurious accusations to be made, based on nothing more than internet chatter, and quote it as fact. As that cannot be fact checked.
But who are They?
WEF I hear people shout. The Government, follows another. Is it an individual in the WEF, or is it a group, who is it? What happens when people get other jobs, do they continue looking to control people or do they just give it up? What happens when Labour unseats the Tories later this year, does Starmer have a weekend away with Rishi where they have a hand over of the 'controlling them' documentation?
It’s a sad fact that in many conspiracy theories “they” boils down to “the Jews”. Its such a powerful word in the world of a CT. When you read the evidence presented, instead of citing an individual, or a definable group, its simply taken back to 'They'
It allows spurious accusations to be made, based on nothing more than internet chatter, and quote it as fact. As that cannot be fact checked.
But who are They?
WEF I hear people shout. The Government, follows another. Is it an individual in the WEF, or is it a group, who is it? What happens when people get other jobs, do they continue looking to control people or do they just give it up? What happens when Labour unseats the Tories later this year, does Starmer have a weekend away with Rishi where they have a hand over of the 'controlling them' documentation?
As for the Government they are barely competent at running the country or keeping any secrets, the idea that they are capable of running a multi decade secret plot involving hundreds if not thousands of people is just laughable.
740EVTORQUES said:
Dagnir said:
Pincher said:
I’ll repost this - was by someone on here recently (sorry, can’t remember who it was but it struck a chord so much that I actually made a note of it on my phone)
Amusingly....this is actually true for both sides Someone said:
It’s weird that there are some who are doggedly insistent that people are being manipulated and lied to but will utterly reject any possibility that they are actually the ones being manipulated, lied to and grifted.
There aren't always two sides to every debate, just as there aren't usually valid alternatives to facts.
It was funny when Groucho Marx said it but that's as far as it goes.
It was more to point out that we're all being lied to and manipulated.
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
What about the mindset of those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry or competing point of view.
And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
They are the CT's. Its a totally accurate definition.And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
You’ve explained your world view as being anti authority and anti government so by logical extension you’re also anti science, anti fact and anti reality - which I would regard as flawed thinking so well done for admitting.
Edited by GeneralBanter on Thursday 16th May 16:32
Al Gorithum said:
You do realise that 'Satan' is an anagram of 'Santa'?Just putting that out there...
Al Gorithum said:
Probably OT but that's certainly an interesting potrait. No idea why the artist was getting inspiration from either Vigo the Carpethian in Ghostbusters 2 or the wall art from the original Doom game, but it's a bit.....terrible. GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
What about the mindset of those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry or competing point of view.
And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
They are the CT's. Its a totally accurate definition.And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
You’ve explained your world view as being anti authority and anti government so by logical extension you’re also anti science, anti fact and anti reality - which I would regard as flawed thinking so well done for admitting.
Edited by GeneralBanter on Thursday 16th May 16:32
PurplePenguin said:
An accurate definition of those who accept everything from government? They are appeal to authority types not conspiracy theorists.
(my bold)As has been said repeatedly, where is this claim coming from? Nobody is suggesting that everything that comes from "the government" is honest, legal or accurate. But that doesn't mean that everything they say is false.
Conversely, most rational people would accept that politicians occasionally lie or misdirect for their own ends. It doesn't mean that everything they say is untrue.
For crying out loud, why does everything have to be so black and white?
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
What about the mindset of those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry or competing point of view.
And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
They are the CT's. Its a totally accurate definition.And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
You’ve explained your world view as being anti authority and anti government so by logical extension you’re also anti science, anti fact and anti reality - which I would regard as flawed thinking so well done for admitting.
Edited by GeneralBanter on Thursday 16th May 16:32
For ‘evidence’ of your world view being anti government please see your own post in bold that states clearly ‘…those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry…’ . So basically you don’t accept anything from anyone with authority.
QED
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
What about the mindset of those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry or competing point of view.
And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
They are the CT's. Its a totally accurate definition.And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
You’ve explained your world view as being anti authority and anti government so by logical extension you’re also anti science, anti fact and anti reality - which I would regard as flawed thinking so well done for admitting.
Edited by GeneralBanter on Thursday 16th May 16:32
Very much 1 + 1 = 3 kind of thinking.
FerrousOxide said:
PurplePenguin said:
An accurate definition of those who accept everything from government? They are appeal to authority types not conspiracy theorists.
(my bold)As has been said repeatedly, where is this claim coming from? Nobody is suggesting that everything that comes from "the government" is honest, legal or accurate. But that doesn't mean that everything they say is false.
Conversely, most rational people would accept that politicians occasionally lie or misdirect for their own ends. It doesn't mean that everything they say is untrue.
For crying out loud, why does everything have to be so black and white?
I also don't think he was claiming that everything they say is untrue.
So actually I would say it's you might be oversimplifying things into black and white
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
What about the mindset of those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry or competing point of view.
And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
They are the CT's. Its a totally accurate definition.And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
You’ve explained your world view as being anti authority and anti government so by logical extension you’re also anti science, anti fact and anti reality - which I would regard as flawed thinking so well done for admitting.
Edited by GeneralBanter on Thursday 16th May 16:32
For ‘evidence’ of your world view being anti government please see your own post in bold that states clearly ‘…those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry…’ . So basically you don’t accept anything from anyone with authority.
QED
There is nothing in what I said that any rational mind could construe as me being anti-authority - it was a statement pointing out that there are some people who will accept all government/health instructions without question - the opposite being (for want of a better title) conspiracy theorists.
The point being there is a large “grey scale” between those extremes.
Tldr - you are incorrect QED
(or being kind, you have misinterpreted what I said)
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
What about the mindset of those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry or competing point of view.
And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
They are the CT's. Its a totally accurate definition.And where is this “practical and rational leadership”? - given the state of the world, this is somewhat lacking.
If we had such leadership then perhaps there would be less space for conspiracy theories?
You’ve explained your world view as being anti authority and anti government so by logical extension you’re also anti science, anti fact and anti reality - which I would regard as flawed thinking so well done for admitting.
Edited by GeneralBanter on Thursday 16th May 16:32
For ‘evidence’ of your world view being anti government please see your own post in bold that states clearly ‘…those that literally cannot think critically and instead accept everything from a particular group be it a government, industry…’ . So basically you don’t accept anything from anyone with authority.
QED
There is nothing in what I said that any rational mind could construe as me being anti-authority - it was a statement pointing out that there are some people who will accept all government/health instructions without question - the opposite being (for want of a better title) conspiracy theorists.
The point being there is a large “grey scale” between those extremes.
Tldr - you are incorrect QED
(or being kind, you have misinterpreted what I said)
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