Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?
Discussion
paulguitar said:
Mass mental illness is taking place in the USA.
Or desperation. I would hazard that many Republican voters find a creature like Trump to be abhorrent to their personal values but feel they have no choice due to personal circumstances. It's very easy to be a Democrat if you live somewhere with good prospects. When someone lives in a backwater town that exists solely due to a single business and that business could move overseas at any time and the only other employment opportunity would be the military then you can understand why many are Republican. What's important is to keep in our minds the reality that unwell Trump fanatics are a group within the Republicans rather than all Republicans.
Huge swathes of the US are third world crap holes the likes of which even a Jaywick resident would find hard to imagine given that even in the worst enclaves of Europe there is some form of healthcare and welfare payment structure. The French and Italian immigrant ghettos are probably the closest thing we have to how millions of Americans are actually living in their own country.
It's actually harder to comprehend a U.K. resident being a Trump supporter than a U.S. one.
DonkeyApple said:
paulguitar said:
Mass mental illness is taking place in the USA.
Or desperation. I would hazard that many Republican voters find a creature like Trump to be abhorrent to their personal values but feel they have no choice due to personal circumstances. It's very easy to be a Democrat if you live somewhere with good prospects. When someone lives in a backwater town that exists solely due to a single business and that business could move overseas at any time and the only other employment opportunity would be the military then you can understand why many are Republican. What's important is to keep in our minds the reality that unwell Trump fanatics are a group within the Republicans rather than all Republicans.
Huge swathes of the US are third world crap holes the likes of which even a Jaywick resident would find hard to imagine given that even in the worst enclaves of Europe there is some form of healthcare and welfare payment structure. The French and Italian immigrant ghettos are probably the closest thing we have to how millions of Americans are actually living in their own country.
It's actually harder to comprehend a U.K. resident being a Trump supporter than a U.S. one.
Blown2CV said:
so you're either a CTist or you're an 'appeal to authority' type.... am i getting this right?
Yes, this is a fundamental underpinning when CT talk about their chosen subjects. Everyone that disagrees with their standpoint must by definition be in a very tight defined box in the far corner. They know this isn't true, yet it is parroted back time and time again.The real world looks more like...
0.1% CT who refuse to move from their position regardless
99.8% who think about whats put in front of them without an agenda and make a call on it
0.1% Lets use the CT phrase 'govern me harder'
A CT you will see will use tactics like grouping the last two together to make it easier to counter argue, that the extreme other end is wrong, and of course it is, politicians lie, companies cheat etc. but the reality is that the majority sit in the middle without their agenda but instead trying to make informed sensible choices.
paulguitar said:
The Republicans do not care about those people at all. Just the opposite.
That's not relevant though. Labour don't care about the working classes either but it doesn't stop them voting for them. What they will do is lob cash and credit at them which they'll then hurl as quickly as possible at others before complaining they've got no money left and those other people appear to have become very wealthy. 
Nor to the cult leaders care one iota about their CT potato army. They're just slow witted, desperate or mentally ill drones whose purpose is to send their money to the leader and to do their bidding like a zombie army.
DonkeyApple said:
paulguitar said:
The Republicans do not care about those people at all. Just the opposite.
That's not relevant though. Labour don't care about the working classes either but it doesn't stop them voting for them. What they will do is lob cash and credit at them which they'll then hurl as quickly as possible at others before complaining they've got no money left and those other people appear to have become very wealthy. Nor to the cult leaders care one iota about their CT potato army. They're just slow witted, desperate or mentally ill drones whose purpose is to send their money to the leader and to do their bidding like a zombie army.
ts about them nor did he really give two sts whether we were in or out of Europe, it was just a big power grab by a somewhat psychotic politician. Its funny what people will do when motivated enough!coldel said:
The working class threw their votes at Etonian Boris, despite the fact he couldn't give two sts about them nor did he really give two sts whether we were in or out of Europe, it was just a big power grab by a somewhat psychotic politician. Its funny what people will do when motivated enough!
But that was a temporary swing based on a promise to free the U.K. from the oppressive shackles of evil foreigners and to be ruled by the King of Chavs instead. We're trending back to the long term base now by the looks of things. ts about them nor did he really give two sts whether we were in or out of Europe, it was just a big power grab by a somewhat psychotic politician. Its funny what people will do when motivated enough!coldel said:
Yes, this is a fundamental underpinning when CT talk about their chosen subjects. Everyone that disagrees with their standpoint must by definition be in a very tight defined box in the far corner. They know this isn't true, yet it is parroted back time and time again.
The real world looks more like...
0.1% CT who refuse to move from their position regardless
99.8% who think about whats put in front of them without an agenda and make a call on it
0.1% Lets use the CT phrase 'govern me harder'
A CT you will see will use tactics like grouping the last two together to make it easier to counter argue, that the extreme other end is wrong, and of course it is, politicians lie, companies cheat etc. but the reality is that the majority sit in the middle without their agenda but instead trying to make informed sensible choices.
One can probably split U.K. society into two groups. Both groups consider politicians to generally be chiselling little sThe real world looks more like...
0.1% CT who refuse to move from their position regardless
99.8% who think about whats put in front of them without an agenda and make a call on it
0.1% Lets use the CT phrase 'govern me harder'
A CT you will see will use tactics like grouping the last two together to make it easier to counter argue, that the extreme other end is wrong, and of course it is, politicians lie, companies cheat etc. but the reality is that the majority sit in the middle without their agenda but instead trying to make informed sensible choices.
ts but the deviation occurs in how the two explain this, the first generally explain this belief by thinking that the bulk of 'leaders' are an amalgamation of incompetents, grifters, loons and kiss arses who generally can't organise a poss up in a brewery, whereas the second group prefer to believe that these people are evil geniuses in league with each other across the planet with extreme and extraordinary organisational and secret keeping skills who all follow orders from a mystical cabal of lizards and that anyone who doesn't follow their religion must also either be in league with the lizards or trapped in the matrix and either way they must agree 100% with the Lizard people. Some people just have to have a religion to devoutly follow. Many CTs are just 21st century Puritans waiting, primed for a leader to point them at who to put on trains for the next holocaust.
DonkeyApple said:
coldel said:
Yes, this is a fundamental underpinning when CT talk about their chosen subjects. Everyone that disagrees with their standpoint must by definition be in a very tight defined box in the far corner. They know this isn't true, yet it is parroted back time and time again.
The real world looks more like...
0.1% CT who refuse to move from their position regardless
99.8% who think about whats put in front of them without an agenda and make a call on it
0.1% Lets use the CT phrase 'govern me harder'
A CT you will see will use tactics like grouping the last two together to make it easier to counter argue, that the extreme other end is wrong, and of course it is, politicians lie, companies cheat etc. but the reality is that the majority sit in the middle without their agenda but instead trying to make informed sensible choices.
One can probably split U.K. society into two groups. Both groups consider politicians to generally be chiselling little sThe real world looks more like...
0.1% CT who refuse to move from their position regardless
99.8% who think about whats put in front of them without an agenda and make a call on it
0.1% Lets use the CT phrase 'govern me harder'
A CT you will see will use tactics like grouping the last two together to make it easier to counter argue, that the extreme other end is wrong, and of course it is, politicians lie, companies cheat etc. but the reality is that the majority sit in the middle without their agenda but instead trying to make informed sensible choices.
ts but the deviation occurs in how the two explain this, the first generally explain this belief by thinking that the bulk of 'leaders' are an amalgamation of incompetents, grifters, loons and kiss arses who generally can't organise a poss up in a brewery, whereas the second group prefer to believe that these people are evil geniuses in league with each other across the planet with extreme and extraordinary organisational and secret keeping skills who all follow orders from a mystical cabal of lizards and that anyone who doesn't follow their religion must also either be in league with the lizards or trapped in the matrix and either way they must agree 100% with the Lizard people. Some people just have to have a religion to devoutly follow. Many CTs are just 21st century Puritans waiting, primed for a leader to point them at who to put on trains for the next holocaust.
PurplePenguin said:
Might be wise to be a little more considered with the emotive language you are using
Let me tell you a little story. There was this general who lost a war, so he made up this little conspiracy that a certain religious minority had stabbed the country in the back and they hadn’t really lost. This was taken up by a failed painter and ex corporal who used it to become head of the country, the consequence of which was that religious minority being put on trains to be killed in concentration camps.This is why conspiracies should be exposed for the lies that they are.
MBBlat said:
PurplePenguin said:
Might be wise to be a little more considered with the emotive language you are using
Let me tell you a little story. There was this general who lost a war, so he made up this little conspiracy that a certain religious minority had stabbed the country in the back and they hadn’t really lost. This was taken up by a failed painter and ex corporal who used it to become head of the country, the consequence of which was that religious minority being put on trains to be killed in concentration camps.This is why conspiracies should be exposed for the lies that they are.
MBBlat said:
PurplePenguin said:
Might be wise to be a little more considered with the emotive language you are using
Let me tell you a little story. There was this general who lost a war, so he made up this little conspiracy that a certain religious minority had stabbed the country in the back and they hadn’t really lost. This was taken up by a failed painter and ex corporal who used it to become head of the country, the consequence of which was that religious minority being put on trains to be killed in concentration camps.This is why conspiracies should be exposed for the lies that they are.
They are the vegetable army of those of nefarious intent.
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