The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)

The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)

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giblet

8,873 posts

178 months

Wednesday 1st May
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I stuck a set of Goodyear all seasons onto my shed a few months back. Not cheap at £400 but they seem decent so far

monthou

4,635 posts

51 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Jazoli said:
p4cks said:
4 ditchfinders will be fine
Until it rains or you need to do an emergency stop, ditchfinders are never the answer when you can get a set of quality mid range tyres for £400.
You're in the wrong thread.

Mad Maximus

378 posts

4 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Jazoli said:
p4cks said:
4 ditchfinders will be fine
Until it rains or you need to do an emergency stop, ditchfinders are never the answer when you can get a set of quality mid range tyres for £400.
To some people 400 sheets is a massive part of the monthly wage.

Gordon Hill

889 posts

16 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Or 4 Michelin 225 55 16s with 7mm of tread for £130.

Th3 D0n

58 posts

66 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Wondering if I can apply for membership to club shed?
Bought the mrs a 2013 Fabia TSI estate 2 years ago for just shy of £4k (ex company car, 90k miles). 4 new cross climates, car play head unit, OEM mats and a leather steering wheel upgrade later away she went.
First spend looming (excluding servicing) as it needs some front suspension work, reckoning on about £400ish.
Haven’t a clue what it’s worth (£2kish?) and intend to run it for the foreseeable so I now see it as a bit of a shed, albeit one that I don’t mind spending a few quid on to keep in good mechanical nick. My mrs doesn’t give a toss about it, she puts petrol in it and tells me when the washer bottle needs topping up.
Does this now qualify as a mild form of shedding or am I deluded and just bragging about a posh set of wheels?
One of my favourite threads btw, some great stuff on here

7 5 7

3,208 posts

112 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Th3 D0n said:
Wondering if I can apply for membership to club shed?
Bought the mrs a 2013 Fabia TSI estate 2 years ago for just shy of £4k (ex company car, 90k miles). 4 new cross climates, car play head unit, OEM mats and a leather steering wheel upgrade later away she went.
First spend looming (excluding servicing) as it needs some front suspension work, reckoning on about £400ish.
Haven’t a clue what it’s worth (£2kish?) and intend to run it for the foreseeable so I now see it as a bit of a shed, albeit one that I don’t mind spending a few quid on to keep in good mechanical nick. My mrs doesn’t give a toss about it, she puts petrol in it and tells me when the washer bottle needs topping up.
Does this now qualify as a mild form of shedding or am I deluded and just bragging about a posh set of wheels?
One of my favourite threads btw, some great stuff on here
Many will say shedding is a mindset, not price or spend. But, to me a shed is something very cheap, maybe <£2k that you can potentially throw away and start again - bit of an in-between (shedding & bangernomics)

I only fix things if and when I need too, if its broken, or if its a safety issue that will affect the MOT - everything else is fair game until it annoys me or becomes a bigger problem - I run my shed on a shoestring budget, not that I need too, but I choose too - its very liberating - I never buy anything it doesn't need on a whim.

It gets a oil service every year as its doing nearly 20k a year, never gets washed, the last time I washed my shed was October 2023. It is a work mule earning me business mileage, so it needs to be mechanically ok only - if the MOT's bring anything up, they mostly get fixed. If is corrosion issues, it will go to scrapmycar.com etc, and I will rinse and repeat.

Welcome to the club, your Fabia is welcome with open shed arms smile

OMITN

2,198 posts

93 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Mad Maximus said:
Jazoli said:
p4cks said:
4 ditchfinders will be fine
Until it rains or you need to do an emergency stop, ditchfinders are never the answer when you can get a set of quality mid range tyres for £400.
To some people 400 sheets is a massive part of the monthly wage.
I would agree, though not everyone is coming at shedding out of pure necessity.

For me, it isn't a necessity these days, more of a choice. I would therefore spend the money on the tyres, but fully agree that for many that isn't such an easy choice and that inevitably choices need to be made.

QBee

21,027 posts

145 months

Thursday 2nd May
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OMITN said:
Mad Maximus said:
Jazoli said:
p4cks said:
4 ditchfinders will be fine
Until it rains or you need to do an emergency stop, ditchfinders are never the answer when you can get a set of quality mid range tyres for £400.
To some people 400 sheets is a massive part of the monthly wage.
I would agree, though not everyone is coming at shedding out of pure necessity.

For me, it isn't a necessity these days, more of a choice. I would therefore spend the money on the tyres, but fully agree that for many that isn't such an easy choice and that inevitably choices need to be made.
It's a tricky choice when your daily rust heap is 19 years old and you do 5,000 miles year.
For pottering about town then ditchfinders or used but decent tyres will do - I am veering towards the latter.

But I want to be safe. And there is always the chance that, if the weather ever improved reliably, yI would want to travel some distance with caravan attached and wife and dogs on board.

I am battling with this one now. When I got said shed 6 years ago, I replaced the tyres almost immediately with a set of recently new, but in fact used, tyres with 8.5 mm on them all round (they come with 10 mm new). 4 decent brand rain tyres for £120.
The fronts are now pretty well due for replacement, and the rear Uniroyal Rain tyres are probably only 12 months behind them.
Decisions, decisions.

A set of 215/65 16 98Hs ccan cost over £600 fully fitted and top quality.

Th3 D0n

58 posts

66 months

Thursday 2nd May
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7 5 7 said:
Many will say shedding is a mindset, not price or spend. But, to me a shed is something very cheap, maybe <£2k that you can potentially throw away and start again - bit of an in-between (shedding & bangernomics)

I only fix things if and when I need too, if its broken, or if its a safety issue that will affect the MOT - everything else is fair game until it annoys me or becomes a bigger problem - I run my shed on a shoestring budget, not that I need too, but I choose too - its very liberating - I never buy anything it doesn't need on a whim.

It gets a oil service every year as its doing nearly 20k a year, never gets washed, the last time I washed my shed was October 2023. It is a work mule earning me business mileage, so it needs to be mechanically ok only - if the MOT's bring anything up, they mostly get fixed. If is corrosion issues, it will go to scrapmycar.com etc, and I will rinse and repeat.

Welcome to the club, your Fabia is welcome with open shed arms smile
Cheers
The suspension has been clunking for a while now, the MOT advisory for worn arms/bushes has prompted me to get it sorted.
The Fabia has expensive bork potential (timing chain/turbo/clutch/DMF) but that bridge will be crossed when/if it’s reached. It does less than 3000 miles a year so I’m hoping it’ll keep going for a while yet.
It’s due a wash but once I’ve done mine I can rarely be arsed…

CivicDuties

4,829 posts

31 months

Thursday 2nd May
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ferrisbueller said:
Is the 2012+ (Mk9?) Civic as much of a cockroach as its predecessor?
I don't see why it shouldn't be. I've got a 66 plate Tourer, 1.8 petrol auto. I've had it for 5 years. Not a thing has gone wrong with it, but then it still hasn't done 40k miles. I'm planning to keep it forever. They are holding their value incredibly well, which is a good sign. I valued mine on Motorway recently and got an estimate of £10.3k, versus the £13k I paid for it in 2019 from a Main Dealer.

maxwellwd

271 posts

87 months

Thursday 2nd May
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ferrisbueller said:
Is the 2012+ (Mk9?) Civic as much of a cockroach as its predecessor?
I have a 2015 tourer 1.6 i-DTEC for nearly two years now. Objectively it's one of the best cars I have had. I have done about 22k in it and nothing has ever gone wrong ever. Driving up and down from Kent to Scotland in it and everything else in between. Regularly does over 65 MPG, the boot is massive, the magic seats are very clever. Cheap tax at £20 odd for the year. It even handles really well in dynamic mode.

I really rate them, the petrol is meant to be equally as good. They designed this diesel engine well with the location of the DPF, will keep it going and going.

Negatives. The paint is very soft on these, alloy wheels corrode easily (just had mine refurbed) seems to be a Japanese thing in my experience. The seats aren't the most comfortable on long trips sadly.


CivicDuties

4,829 posts

31 months

Thursday 2nd May
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maxwellwd said:
ferrisbueller said:
Is the 2012+ (Mk9?) Civic as much of a cockroach as its predecessor?
I have a 2015 tourer 1.6 i-DTEC for nearly two years now. Objectively it's one of the best cars I have had. I have done about 22k in it and nothing has ever gone wrong ever. Driving up and down from Kent to Scotland in it and everything else in between. Regularly does over 65 MPG, the boot is massive, the magic seats are very clever. Cheap tax at £20 odd for the year. It even handles really well in dynamic mode.

I really rate them, the petrol is meant to be equally as good. They designed this diesel engine well with the location of the DPF, will keep it going and going.

Negatives. The paint is very soft on these, alloy wheels corrode easily (just had mine refurbed) seems to be a Japanese thing in my experience. The seats aren't the most comfortable on long trips sadly.
Spot on. Very soft paint, I managed to bubble it by just putting a magnetic GB sticker on it. Sigh. I have driven mine to Montenegro and back, I find the seats pretty good. Room enough for a family of 4 plus luggage on that trip, no bother. Great economy for a petrol engine and an auto to boot - recently filled up at Lomondside Services near Dumbarton and got home to Berkshire with 100 miles range showing still. Higher VED on the petrol but still only £180 or something. Practicality is off the scale for a car of its size - it has more boot space in terms of litres than some Merc E Class estates. Mine's got flappy paddles and it drives like a warm hatch when it's just me in it. Brilliant car.

I would agree that objectively it's one of the best cars I've ever had too (37 at last count...)

GeneralBanter

865 posts

16 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Mr Tidy said:
GeneralBanter said:
Mr Tidy said:
It's painful on early 2000s cars. I paid £395 to tax my 2005 Cat N 330i Shed for a year last month, and it's gone up since then!

My 2006 Z4M cost £695 at the beginning of March and that has gone up since. I can sort of live with that because I love it, but wouldn't consider paying that for a V6 Mondeo, Hyundai Coupe, Mazda RX8, etc.

I think Band M killed off some great cars. frown
Go for a zero tax shed pre 1985 - there are quite a few on the market sub £6k
That would be an option, but as much as I loved 80s cars in the 80s I think they are best left as memories!
Point taken, but if ULEZ ends up everywhere then being exempt plus zero tax and low insurance they will come into their own.

ferrisbueller

29,363 posts

228 months

Thursday 2nd May
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CivicDuties said:
maxwellwd said:
ferrisbueller said:
Is the 2012+ (Mk9?) Civic as much of a cockroach as its predecessor?
I have a 2015 tourer 1.6 i-DTEC for nearly two years now. Objectively it's one of the best cars I have had. I have done about 22k in it and nothing has ever gone wrong ever. Driving up and down from Kent to Scotland in it and everything else in between. Regularly does over 65 MPG, the boot is massive, the magic seats are very clever. Cheap tax at £20 odd for the year. It even handles really well in dynamic mode.

I really rate them, the petrol is meant to be equally as good. They designed this diesel engine well with the location of the DPF, will keep it going and going.

Negatives. The paint is very soft on these, alloy wheels corrode easily (just had mine refurbed) seems to be a Japanese thing in my experience. The seats aren't the most comfortable on long trips sadly.
Spot on. Very soft paint, I managed to bubble it by just putting a magnetic GB sticker on it. Sigh. I have driven mine to Montenegro and back, I find the seats pretty good. Room enough for a family of 4 plus luggage on that trip, no bother. Great economy for a petrol engine and an auto to boot - recently filled up at Lomondside Services near Dumbarton and got home to Berkshire with 100 miles range showing still. Higher VED on the petrol but still only £180 or something. Practicality is off the scale for a car of its size - it has more boot space in terms of litres than some Merc E Class estates. Mine's got flappy paddles and it drives like a warm hatch when it's just me in it. Brilliant car.

I would agree that objectively it's one of the best cars I've ever had too (37 at last count...)
Thanks.

I don't think corroding alloys is a Japanese thing. Diamond cut alloys in general are stupidly difficult to keep in good order for any length of time.

maxwellwd

271 posts

87 months

Thursday 2nd May
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ferrisbueller said:
CivicDuties said:
maxwellwd said:
ferrisbueller said:
Is the 2012+ (Mk9?) Civic as much of a cockroach as its predecessor?
I have a 2015 tourer 1.6 i-DTEC for nearly two years now. Objectively it's one of the best cars I have had. I have done about 22k in it and nothing has ever gone wrong ever. Driving up and down from Kent to Scotland in it and everything else in between. Regularly does over 65 MPG, the boot is massive, the magic seats are very clever. Cheap tax at £20 odd for the year. It even handles really well in dynamic mode.

I really rate them, the petrol is meant to be equally as good. They designed this diesel engine well with the location of the DPF, will keep it going and going.

Negatives. The paint is very soft on these, alloy wheels corrode easily (just had mine refurbed) seems to be a Japanese thing in my experience. The seats aren't the most comfortable on long trips sadly.
Spot on. Very soft paint, I managed to bubble it by just putting a magnetic GB sticker on it. Sigh. I have driven mine to Montenegro and back, I find the seats pretty good. Room enough for a family of 4 plus luggage on that trip, no bother. Great economy for a petrol engine and an auto to boot - recently filled up at Lomondside Services near Dumbarton and got home to Berkshire with 100 miles range showing still. Higher VED on the petrol but still only £180 or something. Practicality is off the scale for a car of its size - it has more boot space in terms of litres than some Merc E Class estates. Mine's got flappy paddles and it drives like a warm hatch when it's just me in it. Brilliant car.

I would agree that objectively it's one of the best cars I've ever had too (37 at last count...)
Thanks.

I don't think corroding alloys is a Japanese thing. Diamond cut alloys in general are stupidly difficult to keep in good order for any length of time.
They weren't diamond cut on mine. Only going by a Toyota and Lexus I had which were terrible for corroding and were not diamond cut, and now the civic.

Gordon Hill

889 posts

16 months

Thursday 2nd May
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7 5 7 said:
Th3 D0n said:
Wondering if I can apply for membership to club shed?
Bought the mrs a 2013 Fabia TSI estate 2 years ago for just shy of £4k (ex company car, 90k miles). 4 new cross climates, car play head unit, OEM mats and a leather steering wheel upgrade later away she went.
First spend looming (excluding servicing) as it needs some front suspension work, reckoning on about £400ish.
Haven’t a clue what it’s worth (£2kish?) and intend to run it for the foreseeable so I now see it as a bit of a shed, albeit one that I don’t mind spending a few quid on to keep in good mechanical nick. My mrs doesn’t give a toss about it, she puts petrol in it and tells me when the washer bottle needs topping up.
Does this now qualify as a mild form of shedding or am I deluded and just bragging about a posh set of wheels?
One of my favourite threads btw, some great stuff on here
Many will say shedding is a mindset, not price or spend. But, to me a shed is something very cheap, maybe <£2k that you can potentially throw away and start again - bit of an in-between (shedding & bangernomics)

I only fix things if and when I need too, if its broken, or if its a safety issue that will affect the MOT - everything else is fair game until it annoys me or becomes a bigger problem - I run my shed on a shoestring budget, not that I need too, but I choose too - its very liberating - I never buy anything it doesn't need on a whim.

It gets a oil service every year as its doing nearly 20k a year, never gets washed, the last time I washed my shed was October 2023. It is a work mule earning me business mileage, so it needs to be mechanically ok only - if the MOT's bring anything up, they mostly get fixed. If is corrosion issues, it will go to scrapmycar.com etc, and I will rinse and repeat.

Welcome to the club, your Fabia is welcome with open shed arms smile
Welcome to shed world, a very different approach to motoring. You'll find that a lot of us don't shed out of financial constraints but because we choose to. It has it's downsides but not that many, the upsides far outweigh them.
The best of these is truly not giving a sh#t, that attitude is infectious and rubs off on many other aspects of life that really don't matter.

Mr Tidy

22,545 posts

128 months

Friday 3rd May
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GeneralBanter said:
Mr Tidy said:
GeneralBanter said:
Mr Tidy said:
It's painful on early 2000s cars. I paid £395 to tax my 2005 Cat N 330i Shed for a year last month, and it's gone up since then!

My 2006 Z4M cost £695 at the beginning of March and that has gone up since. I can sort of live with that because I love it, but wouldn't consider paying that for a V6 Mondeo, Hyundai Coupe, Mazda RX8, etc.

I think Band M killed off some great cars. frown
Go for a zero tax shed pre 1985 - there are quite a few on the market sub £6k
That would be an option, but as much as I loved 80s cars in the 80s I think they are best left as memories!
Point taken, but if ULEZ ends up everywhere then being exempt plus zero tax and low insurance they will come into their own.
Maybe,but both of mine are ULEZ compliant anyway! Which is handy as my sister lives in a London Borough.

Hoofy

76,470 posts

283 months

Friday 3rd May
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Mr Tidy said:
My 2006 Z4M cost £695 at the beginning of March and that has gone up since. I can sort of live with that because I love it, but wouldn't consider paying that for a V6 Mondeo, Hyundai Coupe, Mazda RX8, etc.

I think Band M killed off some great cars. frown
Yep, it's a consideration when browsing my next car.

Bonefish Blues

26,935 posts

224 months

Friday 3rd May
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Hoofy said:
Mr Tidy said:
My 2006 Z4M cost £695 at the beginning of March and that has gone up since. I can sort of live with that because I love it, but wouldn't consider paying that for a V6 Mondeo, Hyundai Coupe, Mazda RX8, etc.

I think Band M killed off some great cars. frown
Yep, it's a consideration when browsing my next car.
The bloke who bought my C70 T5 hadn't checked in advance. I thought he was going to have a coronary when I told him.

Slowboathome

3,503 posts

45 months

Friday 3rd May
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giblet said:
I stuck a set of Goodyear all seasons onto my shed a few months back. Not cheap at £400 but they seem decent so far
Putting a decent set of all Michelin CC2s on my shed has trapped me into a position of 'I've got to keep repairing it whatever the cost because it's got £400 worth of new tyres on it'

Is that a version of the sunk cost fallacy?