EV used prices (bottom of the market?)
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T_S_M said:
I'd imagine they do, but do the rear seats fold down?
I'm starting to consider a used M3 Performance to replace my E-tron but think I might miss the big boot/practicality.
They do indeed.I'm starting to consider a used M3 Performance to replace my E-tron but think I might miss the big boot/practicality.
We went from a Model 3 Performance to an etron 55. The model 3 boot is pretty practical and has a deep well that is very useful, plus a decent sized "frunk" so is actually far more practical than you might think looking at it.
My only advice would be to avoid the Performance mode and get an LR. You get very little additional performance in reality but a consideraly worse ride + range and alloy wheels that are made of chocolate. Not worth the additional outlay IME.
The brand new one with different bumpers, sports seats, adaptive ride, staggered wheels etc. makes a lot more sense as genuined sets it apart.
JackJarvis said:
jonflat2 said:
a little town runaround (school run / shopping).
Is a Model 3 really what you need for that? I’m aware this is likely contributing to the depreciation, so I shouldn’t complain too much and perhaps need to just swallow it.
I regularly check in on the facelift Model S and leggy Model 3s. They’re well within my budget now, but whenever I get so far as getting an insurance quote it’s eye watering. My incumbent provider has even declined to quote, despite having other EVs with them previously.
If this starts to drop I would be straight in the market for one.
I regularly check in on the facelift Model S and leggy Model 3s. They’re well within my budget now, but whenever I get so far as getting an insurance quote it’s eye watering. My incumbent provider has even declined to quote, despite having other EVs with them previously.
If this starts to drop I would be straight in the market for one.
mcm87 said:
I’m aware this is likely contributing to the depreciation, so I shouldn’t complain too much and perhaps need to just swallow it.
I regularly check in on the facelift Model S and leggy Model 3s. They’re well within my budget now, but whenever I get so far as getting an insurance quote it’s eye watering. My incumbent provider has even declined to quote, despite having other EVs with them previously.
If this starts to drop I would be straight in the market for one.
Perversely im getting cheaper quotes on a Performance model 3 (c.£750) compared to the standard and long ranges (closer to £1000)I regularly check in on the facelift Model S and leggy Model 3s. They’re well within my budget now, but whenever I get so far as getting an insurance quote it’s eye watering. My incumbent provider has even declined to quote, despite having other EVs with them previously.
If this starts to drop I would be straight in the market for one.
By comparison an ev6 is about £550 and a cupra born is £400
Sheepshanks said:
ChocolateFrog said:
…..10x cheaper running costs….
How are you working out running costs at a tenth of ICE? I’ve been reckoning on a fifth (in summer).if you take Octopus go as an example EV tariff it's 7.5p kWh. In an EV capable of 3.5 miles/kWh after charging losses that's 2p per mile.
Petrol is £.1.47 a litre at present, so a car averaging 35MPG is costing 19p per mile. A diesel doing 45MPG at £1.55 a litre is 16p per mile.
A lot closer to 10x than 5x either way, and that's before getting into potential additional VED and servicing costs?
smn159 said:
I just bought a Model S for under £15k. Everything works and 220 miles on a full charge. It's a lot of car for the money
Presumably this is coming up to the end of any warranty period for the battery now, if it hasn’t already ended. Any concerns on this?Continually torn between an old and leggier Model S which is presumably a nicer place to sit, or a newer 3 which would probably still have some battery warranty left.
Edited by riskyj on Saturday 4th May 08:42
riskyj said:
smn159 said:
I just bought a Model S for under £15k. Everything works and 220 miles on a full charge. It's a lot of car for the money
Presumably this is coming up to the end of any warranty period for the battery now, if it hasn’t already ended. Any concerns on this?Continually torn between an old and leggier Model S which is presumably a nicer place to sit, or a newer 3 which would probably still have some battery warranty left.
Edited by riskyj on Saturday 4th May 08:42
I wouldn't say that it concerns me greatly and as you say, it's a nice place to sit for the money. I like the car a lot
sunnyb13 said:
New zero-emission cars registered on or after 1 April 2025 will be liable to pay the lowest first-year rate of VED (which applies to vehicles with CO2 emissions 1 to 50g/km) currently £10 a year.
From the second year of registration onwards, they will move to the standard rate, currently £190 a year
Zero emission cars first registered between 1 April 2017 and 31 March 2025 will also pay the standard rate
Now read what it says about 2016 cars, as the picture clearly shows that mine is.From the second year of registration onwards, they will move to the standard rate, currently £190 a year
Zero emission cars first registered between 1 April 2017 and 31 March 2025 will also pay the standard rate
Apology accepted.
SWoll said:
Depends on what cars you are comparing of course.
if you take Octopus go as an example EV tariff it's 7.5p kWh. In an EV capable of 3.5 miles/kWh after charging losses that's 2p per mile.
Petrol is £.1.47 a litre at present, so a car averaging 35MPG is costing 19p per mile. A diesel doing 45MPG at £1.55 a litre is 16p per mile.
A lot closer to 10x than 5x either way, and that's before getting into potential additional VED and servicing costs?
I’ve just looked. The Tesla is averaging 273 watt hours per mile (over the last 20k miles, so we’ll assume that’s a good average)if you take Octopus go as an example EV tariff it's 7.5p kWh. In an EV capable of 3.5 miles/kWh after charging losses that's 2p per mile.
Petrol is £.1.47 a litre at present, so a car averaging 35MPG is costing 19p per mile. A diesel doing 45MPG at £1.55 a litre is 16p per mile.
A lot closer to 10x than 5x either way, and that's before getting into potential additional VED and servicing costs?
That’s 3.66 miles a KWh. I charge at 7.5p per KWh (actually, quite a lot was free but let’s ignore that)
That’s 2p a mile in “fuel”.
The Mercedes the Tesla replaced averaged 24mpg over ~40k miles and liked super unleaded. Curently ~160p a litre. So 30p a mile in fuel alone. It was 600 quid a year to tax and I didn’t get many services less than 500 quid.
The Tesla is significantly faster most of the time.
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