The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)
Discussion
r3g said:
I had a 3.0 V6 CDTI SRI in that shape for a while, auto box and the Y30DT lump so no DPF (DPF came in with the Z30DT). Sweet sounding engine for a coal burner and handled surprisingly well for a big old bus with that weighty lump up front. Was reliable too. I'd definitely have another Y30 if a decent one came up for sale at the right price.
The 1.9 CDTI 150 in the Astra and Veccy was a known crappy engine due to the swirl flap ingestion issue when they seized up with EGR crap and then snapped off and disappeared into the engine, but you could map out the EGR for not much money and they were pretty reliable then.
Mine is the 1.8VVT, so I don't really have any of those worries - it's a great engine when you ring it's neck a little - sits at 70mph all day long, doing 45/50mpg so i cant complain.The 1.9 CDTI 150 in the Astra and Veccy was a known crappy engine due to the swirl flap ingestion issue when they seized up with EGR crap and then snapped off and disappeared into the engine, but you could map out the EGR for not much money and they were pretty reliable then.
Edited by r3g on Wednesday 15th May 17:57
The joy(!), another yellow spanner of doom on my Grand Scenic.
Ran the OBD reader through, brought up 12(!) codes and it cleared 11 of them. Only one left is code P0545, Exhaust Gas Sensor. Any idea how easy it is to replace?
fking Renaults, every day I'm getting closer to scrapping this bloody thing.
Ran the OBD reader through, brought up 12(!) codes and it cleared 11 of them. Only one left is code P0545, Exhaust Gas Sensor. Any idea how easy it is to replace?
fking Renaults, every day I'm getting closer to scrapping this bloody thing.
MisterWhippy said:
The joy(!), another yellow spanner of doom on my Grand Scenic.
Ran the OBD reader through, brought up 12(!) codes and it cleared 11 of them. Only one left is code P0545, Exhaust Gas Sensor. Any idea how easy it is to replace?
fking Renaults, every day I'm getting closer to scrapping this bloody thing.
Just tie wrap a new one, next to the exhaust.....Ran the OBD reader through, brought up 12(!) codes and it cleared 11 of them. Only one left is code P0545, Exhaust Gas Sensor. Any idea how easy it is to replace?
fking Renaults, every day I'm getting closer to scrapping this bloody thing.
MisterWhippy said:
The joy(!), another yellow spanner of doom on my Grand Scenic.
Ran the OBD reader through, brought up 12(!) codes and it cleared 11 of them. Only one left is code P0545, Exhaust Gas Sensor. Any idea how easy it is to replace?
fking Renaults, every day I'm getting closer to scrapping this bloody thing.
Your EGR is clogged up with crap because you've been running it on standard diesel without any detergents. Clean or replace EGR, put proper diesel in it. Problem sorted.Ran the OBD reader through, brought up 12(!) codes and it cleared 11 of them. Only one left is code P0545, Exhaust Gas Sensor. Any idea how easy it is to replace?
fking Renaults, every day I'm getting closer to scrapping this bloody thing.
r3g said:
MisterWhippy said:
The joy(!), another yellow spanner of doom on my Grand Scenic.
Ran the OBD reader through, brought up 12(!) codes and it cleared 11 of them. Only one left is code P0545, Exhaust Gas Sensor. Any idea how easy it is to replace?
fking Renaults, every day I'm getting closer to scrapping this bloody thing.
Your EGR is clogged up with crap because you've been running it on standard diesel without any detergents. Clean or replace EGR, put proper diesel in it. Problem sorted.Ran the OBD reader through, brought up 12(!) codes and it cleared 11 of them. Only one left is code P0545, Exhaust Gas Sensor. Any idea how easy it is to replace?
fking Renaults, every day I'm getting closer to scrapping this bloody thing.
r3g said:
Your EGR is clogged up with crap because you've been running it on standard diesel without any detergents. Clean or replace EGR, put proper diesel in it. Problem sorted.
That's not a bad suggestion re: super diesel. I need to fill up in the next 100 miles, so I'll give that a go.I'll see how easy it is to locate the EGR and give it a good clean.
MisterWhippy said:
r3g said:
Your EGR is clogged up with crap because you've been running it on standard diesel without any detergents. Clean or replace EGR, put proper diesel in it. Problem sorted.
That's not a bad suggestion re: super diesel. I need to fill up in the next 100 miles, so I'll give that a go.I'll see how easy it is to locate the EGR and give it a good clean.
MisterWhippy said:
r3g said:
Your EGR is clogged up with crap because you've been running it on standard diesel without any detergents. Clean or replace EGR, put proper diesel in it. Problem sorted.
That's not a bad suggestion re: super diesel. I need to fill up in the next 100 miles, so I'll give that a go.I'll see how easy it is to locate the EGR and give it a good clean.
Or you could just get your EGR mapped out and blanked off, then you're not sending poorly combusted diesel gasses back into your engine which is what clogs up your EGR valve, piperwork and inlet manifold with gunk. If you do this make sure you've been running on a couple of tanks of premium before your MOT test to ensure your emission test passes and you're all good.
Reading this with interest.
On older diesels (2005 in my case), does this need to clean up the engine still apply?
My X Trail 2.2 CDi has 100,000 miles on it now and does a couple of slightly alarming things:
1. Occasionally, ie when I have a passenger and don't want to be embarrassed, it seems to misfire a few times, well, that's what it would be on a petrol car. Horrible jolting coughs, then it clears itself.
2. If you boot it at all hard, it looks like you are trying to lay dark grey smoke like a WW2 battleship to evade capture.
3. You always get a small cloud of grey smoke on start up.
Would the team advise bunging some Redex in the tank?
Or is there something I should check for/change?
I don't know a lot about diesels, but do have a socket set.
On older diesels (2005 in my case), does this need to clean up the engine still apply?
My X Trail 2.2 CDi has 100,000 miles on it now and does a couple of slightly alarming things:
1. Occasionally, ie when I have a passenger and don't want to be embarrassed, it seems to misfire a few times, well, that's what it would be on a petrol car. Horrible jolting coughs, then it clears itself.
2. If you boot it at all hard, it looks like you are trying to lay dark grey smoke like a WW2 battleship to evade capture.
3. You always get a small cloud of grey smoke on start up.
Would the team advise bunging some Redex in the tank?
Or is there something I should check for/change?
I don't know a lot about diesels, but do have a socket set.
Sounds like death may not be far away based on what you've said. Might be beyond saving. If the EGR is easy to get to, take it out and stick your head inside. If it looks something like this then that's why it's running like it is. Inlet manifold will be the same. You'll need industrial quantities of cleaner, screwdriver, a lot of old toothbrushes and rags and a lot of time and patience, or just buy a new EGR. Paraffin or diesel will soak and loosen the hardened crud. Brake cleaner or household oven cleaner does a good job but keep an eye as both are quite aggressive and the latter will melt ally if left on long enough. Car Plan Tetraclean is another which gets a good rep.
Running it on premium fuel with detergents in it (or using off-the-shelf fuel treatments like Millers DPEM) keeps your EGR side minty clean and also your injectors - both of which will empty your wallet if you let them clog up. It's the standard preventative maintenance 'service' to keep diesels running well.
Yours might be too far gone to clean itself just from fuel/additives if you start now - could take years to clear if the build-up is heavy - especially if only doing short journeys, so probably needs some manual intervention.
Running it on premium fuel with detergents in it (or using off-the-shelf fuel treatments like Millers DPEM) keeps your EGR side minty clean and also your injectors - both of which will empty your wallet if you let them clog up. It's the standard preventative maintenance 'service' to keep diesels running well.
Yours might be too far gone to clean itself just from fuel/additives if you start now - could take years to clear if the build-up is heavy - especially if only doing short journeys, so probably needs some manual intervention.
Edited by r3g on Thursday 16th May 20:34
Pit Pony said:
Charlie Foxtrot said:
Day 2 and first sort of issue. Question about the Mk2 Focus - who the fk put the pollen filter in that location!?
I never managed to change the one on our Juke. The astra J requires removal of the glove box.
The omega, it was done with the bonnet up.
My Kia took 30 seconds; an old Honda CRV I had required removal of the glovebox and this then revealed a metal bar, with hidden fixings, which was placed centrally and vertically directly in front of the filter. It stunk of one of those “take it to a main dealer” cons. I cut it off with a dremel.
Digby said:
My Kia took 30 seconds; an old Honda CRV I had required removal of the glovebox and this then revealed a metal bar, with hidden fixings, which was placed centrally and vertically directly in front of the filter. It stunk of one of those “take it to a main dealer” cons. I cut it off with a dremel.
r3g said:
Sounds like death may not be far away based on what you've said. Might be beyond saving. If the EGR is easy to get to, take it out and stick your head inside. If it looks something like this then that's why it's running like it is. Inlet manifold will be the same. You'll need industrial quantities of cleaner, screwdriver, a lot of old toothbrushes and rags and a lot of time and patience, or just buy a new EGR. Paraffin or diesel will soak and loosen the hardened crud. Brake cleaner or household oven cleaner does a good job but keep an eye as both are quite aggressive and the latter will melt ally if left on long enough. Car Plan Tetraclean is another which gets a good rep.
Running it on premium fuel with detergents in it (or using off-the-shelf fuel treatments like Millers DPEM) keeps your EGR side minty clean and also your injectors - both of which will empty your wallet if you let them clog up. It's the standard preventative maintenance 'service' to keep diesels running well.
Yours might be too far gone to clean itself just from fuel/additives if you start now - could take years to clear if the build-up is heavy - especially if only doing short journeys, so probably needs some manual intervention.
Thanks. This is ringing vague bells. Running it on premium fuel with detergents in it (or using off-the-shelf fuel treatments like Millers DPEM) keeps your EGR side minty clean and also your injectors - both of which will empty your wallet if you let them clog up. It's the standard preventative maintenance 'service' to keep diesels running well.
Yours might be too far gone to clean itself just from fuel/additives if you start now - could take years to clear if the build-up is heavy - especially if only doing short journeys, so probably needs some manual intervention.
Edited by r3g on Thursday 16th May 20:34
About 15 years ago I bought a W210 320CDI with 150,000 miles on the clock. About two years and 50,000 miles later it started randomly going into limp home mode, usually in mid-overtake. The Merc specialist started at the top of the engine, declogging it. After 4 visits and £1,100 of work they found the problem was actually a broken inter cooler. But the clogged engine was masking it initially.
I will ask my local garage where the EGR is and start from there. Sounds like a summer evenings project.
Edited to add - a quick Google turned up a detailed Yoof Toob video on where it is and how to extract it.
Edited by QBee on Thursday 16th May 21:48
r3g said:
Your EGR is clogged up with crap because you've been running it on standard diesel without any detergents. Clean or replace EGR, put proper diesel in it. Problem sorted.
Standard diesel still has detergents. I didn’t think in this thread of all threads we’d be spouting fuel bs.
kharma45 said:
Standard diesel still has detergents.
I didn’t think in this thread of all threads we’d be spouting fuel bs.
Explain to me then how running a diesel Astra 1.7 on standard diesel clogged up the EGR and engine inlets with endless running, EML and smoke issues, yet after cleaning out and running on premium diesel with detergents, after 30k miles not one single issue, no smoke and popping off the EGR to check the condition revealed nothing more than a light dusting of soot?I didn’t think in this thread of all threads we’d be spouting fuel bs.
You stick to your "premium fuel is snake oil" bs.
r3g said:
kharma45 said:
Standard diesel still has detergents.
I didn’t think in this thread of all threads we’d be spouting fuel bs.
Explain to me then how running a diesel Astra 1.7 on standard diesel clogged up the EGR and engine inlets with endless running, EML and smoke issues, yet after cleaning out and running on premium diesel with detergents, after 30k miles not one single issue, no smoke and popping off the EGR to check the condition revealed nothing more than a light dusting of soot?I didn’t think in this thread of all threads we’d be spouting fuel bs.
You stick to your "premium fuel is snake oil" bs.
My sheds get the cheapest anything, that's why I love the liberation, petrol is cleaner than diesel anyway probably...all this clogged EGR talk "does not compute" with my petrol shed
Anyway, about to stick another 300 miles on the RepVecShed, after my Premier Inn all you can eat breakfast (that's more important fuel to me).
Oh, I crashed into the wall in a tight multi storey yesterday...me'h it's dented the front bumper when I've had a look, adds even more character I suppose
Anyway, about to stick another 300 miles on the RepVecShed, after my Premier Inn all you can eat breakfast (that's more important fuel to me).
Oh, I crashed into the wall in a tight multi storey yesterday...me'h it's dented the front bumper when I've had a look, adds even more character I suppose
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