RE: 'Authentic' Land Cruiser 70 goes back on sale

[Snow and Rocks]

wormus said:

Mine’s a 2001 and works fine. Very misunderstood beasts, only about the same 4 things go wrong and easy to fix.

Are the engine and the gearbox two of them?! Ours needed a new short block and a new gearbox in the time we owned it, it also needed a 4 figure sum spent on the suspension. It was obviously a long time ago but we spent more on repairs in a couple of years than we did buying the bloody thing in the first place.

The much older Land Cruiser was pretty much as fast, was better off road, used half the fuel and went wrong less in 30 years than the P38 did in the first month!

[anonymous-user]

Snow and Rocks said:

wormus said:

Mine’s a 2001 and works fine. Very misunderstood beasts, only about the same 4 things go wrong and easy to fix.

Are the engine and the gearbox two of them?! Ours needed a new short block and a new gearbox in the time we owned it, it also needed a 4 figure sum spent on the suspension. It was obviously a long time ago but we spent more on repairs in a couple of years than we did buying the bloody thing in the first place.

The much older Land Cruiser was pretty much as fast, was better off road, used half the fuel and went wrong less in 30 years than the P38 did in the first month!

Sounds like you were unlucky. The mechanical bits are robust and it’s a Rover V8 at the end of the day so simple and easy to fix. Mine’s on 150k and still runs quietly. It’s normally the electrical bits that let them down, along with the air suspension, but stay on top of it and they can be very reliable. I do like this new Toyota though.

[MikeHo]

jason61c said:

Coolest car on here.

Wonder how much you can get one landed in the uk for?

Agreed, love it.

[Kirk156]

Yarlsberg said:

I imported in some FJ76’s a few years ago 2018 for the INEOS Grenadier project and they were more like £50k each

Interesting

What were you doing with them??

Comparing or copying??

[OPC100]

A.J.M said:

They still haven’t fixed the rear axel issue.

They can stick a different engine in it, add cup holders but they can’t sort making the back axel the same width as the front.

Shame as it seems an ideal truck for the outback.

Maybe a stupid question, but what is the problem with this, apart from aesthetics?

I'm not sure of the offset between the two, but I would have thought that it could be an advantage off road, whereby the rear doesn't follow the exact path of the front and therefore gives you more grip in muddy conditions?

[fortfive]

Just what the market wants here rather than very expensive Defender/Grenadier, good as they are, they’re too much money and complications for the country or sports leisure market. RHD too so I’ll be looking to import one, if you can register it these days.

[NomduJour]

OPC100 said:

A.J.M said:

They still haven’t fixed the rear axel issue.

They can stick a different engine in it, add cup holders but they can’t sort making the back axel the same width as the front.

Shame as it seems an ideal truck for the outback.

Maybe a stupid question, but what is the problem with this, apart from aesthetics?

I'm not sure of the offset between the two, but I would have thought that it could be an advantage off road, whereby the rear doesn't follow the exact path of the front and therefore gives you more grip in muddy conditions?

Supposedly makes them unstable, particularly on sand and gravel, so they roll over a lot (seem to remember an Australian accident, where some farm kids died, blamed on it). Amusing reading Aus and SA forums with people trying to defend it as a deliberate engineering decision.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/why-the-toyo...

[biggbn]

wormus said:

biggbn said:

blueg33 said:

biggbn said:

That right there would be a car for life for me. What a brilliant thing.

Friend of mine has a Land Cruiser V8 Amazon. It has something like 290k miles on it and its still his daily driver and going strong. its been all across Europe, has seen his family grow up and is now seeing his grand kids. Its certainly going to be his car for life unless emissions legislation kills it off.

Well, I'm 54 now, so there may be a few affordable imports around by the time I retire, so who knows. Always like the idea of buying a car to see me out when the time comes...

Sadly rust gets them all in the end. Weirdly the P38 Range Rover (1996 - 2001) don’t suffer from rust at all.

As for retro, how about the Suzuki Jimny? https://cars.suzuki.co.uk/new-cars/jimny/

Edited by wormus on Friday 1st December 17:39

Love the Jimny but it WILL rot unless owner extensively rust proofs it. I hasten to add I have zero evidence of that just experience of owning a few older Suzukis! Had a few J70 swb with the 2.4d and they were brilliant things.

[OPC100]

NomduJour said:

Supposedly makes them unstable, particularly on sand and gravel, so they roll over a lot (seem to remember an Australian accident, where some farm kids died, blamed on it). Amusing reading Aus and SA forums with people trying to defend it as a deliberate engineering decision.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/why-the-toyo...

Thanks. I just saw this too and makes alot of sense to leave as is when you consider the main usage for their main customers.

https://youtu.be/TBxIQapB-3Y?si=3llADqIfTQvFJZ-j

[NomduJour]

Aargh, not him.

[MDL111]

would love a SWB of that given I can't afford a decent SWB G

[hclark3]

Great vehicle and superb article, thanks. The words 'depressingly reasonable £25k" stand out, if only to highlight how totally ripped off we are whilst buying cars, in the Uk. Car tax, petrol tax, road tax, congestion tax, insurance tax, Vat. All that on already taxed income ffs. No wonder some of us are suffering from depression.

[Rich Boy Spanner]

I really like that, that could be my forever car. As mentioned Toyota UK would make a right mess of selling it, they'd be embarrassed about selling a proper 4X4 and they would remove the spare wheel to make it look more like a car and reduce emissions from weight.

[thekwaze]

I had the LWB version as my company car in Saudi Arabia 1983
I remember the Audi Quattro was relatively new at the time and our halfwit salesmen thought that as it was four wheel drive it would be just like the Audi, so took turns to be disillusioned.
It had a kind of turbo boost as I called it. Switch off the Aircon and you could feel the power punch you in the back (LOL)
I always drove it flat out everywhere, over rough terrain and it never missed a beat. I've had loads of company cars since, but that is the one I always remember, with fond memories.

[Blib]

Jonny Smith has a review out tomorrow (today for Patrons).

[4.7AMV8]

We have some 6x6 military 70’s in our factory.