EV with real 300+ mile range?
Discussion
foggy said:
It’s unfamiliar journeys where I find the odd bit of range anxiety, or more realistically charging anxiety, can kick in, especially if you’re somewhere off the beaten track. Then it can mean making diversions and wasting time on slower chargers.
For those unable to charge at home I think that's actually the issue. The vast majority of drivers aren't doing long trips regularly and often but what they're used to with an ICE vehicle is the ability to top-up and add range quickly and easily; there are loads of fuel stations around and it takes less than 5 minutes to add several hundred miles. So for most I don't think range per se is the issue, it's more they're worried they won't be able to recharge as quickly and easily as they can refuel their ICE car. I'd actually argue an EV with a range of 150 miles or less wouldn't be a problem to most providing they had confidence a charger would be easily accessible and their battery would recharge in the same sort of time it takes to fill a tank with fuel.
Therefore, IMO what the majority of drivers need aren't bigger batteries and heavier cars with a longer range, they need smaller, lighter, batteries (and cars) that charge quickly together along with the charging infrastructure to do the recharging. In my view a lot of the fixation with range isn't because people need to do long runs, it's more just a symptom of lack of confidence in the recharging process.
fatjon said:
740EVTORQUES said:
Interesting
Do you mind me asking what your overall average is?
Mine is 2.8 over 18,000 miles starting in Jan 2023
Thanks
Do you mind me asking what your overall average is?
Mine is 2.8 over 18,000 miles starting in Jan 2023
Thanks
I was really meaning over a whole year or even the lifetime of the car rather than one month in Spring, that is what my data is, so it takes in all weather conditions. I’d be interested to know. I suspect my current consumption is not too dissimilar to yours though not quite as frugal.
You can get this from the car I think.
Thank you.
740EVTORQUES said:
Thanks,
I was really meaning over a whole year or even the lifetime of the car rather than one month in Spring, that is what my data is, so it takes in all weather conditions. I’d be interested to know. I suspect my current consumption is not too dissimilar to yours though not quite as frugal.
You can get this from the car I think.
Thank you.
unfortunately it all got reset last month when trying to diagnose a problem so it is skewed towards warmer weather. I was really meaning over a whole year or even the lifetime of the car rather than one month in Spring, that is what my data is, so it takes in all weather conditions. I’d be interested to know. I suspect my current consumption is not too dissimilar to yours though not quite as frugal.
You can get this from the car I think.
Thank you.
For additional reference.
Tesla model Y dual motor.
Today’s milage (ie current drive and since last charge) are all motorway work in borderline ideal conditions.
Lifetime (21k miles worth) on the right.
Today I think I could just do 300 miles on a full battery, but it would be at a very strict 70mph and with absolutely zero margin. I’d be looking for a charger and a toilet 4 hours in.
Tesla model Y dual motor.
Today’s milage (ie current drive and since last charge) are all motorway work in borderline ideal conditions.
Lifetime (21k miles worth) on the right.
Today I think I could just do 300 miles on a full battery, but it would be at a very strict 70mph and with absolutely zero margin. I’d be looking for a charger and a toilet 4 hours in.
Another Model Y LR here. Recent trip from Gloucester to Warrington going at 70mph or whatever speed the traffic allowed. Did 118 miles using a third of the battery, so well over 300+ miles. Much more efficient in the warmer weather but, having got the car in December 2023, it might struggle to do 280 in the winter - although very very close and a 5 mine top up would be enough.
So my car has charged to 100%, showing 227 miles range, more than enough for my planned 195 mile round trip later. I usually stop for a quick top up on the way back (less than 10 mins)
Shame, I won’t have an excuse to stop for a coffee on the way back, I might stop anyway though.
It sounds like I could get another 10% range by driving more sedately, but I don’t need to, and unlike a petrol car, it’s so cheap to run that there’s no financial incentive to slow down either.
Shame, I won’t have an excuse to stop for a coffee on the way back, I might stop anyway though.
It sounds like I could get another 10% range by driving more sedately, but I don’t need to, and unlike a petrol car, it’s so cheap to run that there’s no financial incentive to slow down either.
740EVTORQUES said:
fatjon said:
740EVTORQUES said:
Interesting
Do you mind me asking what your overall average is?
Mine is 2.8 over 18,000 miles starting in Jan 2023
Thanks
Do you mind me asking what your overall average is?
Mine is 2.8 over 18,000 miles starting in Jan 2023
Thanks
I was really meaning over a whole year or even the lifetime of the car rather than one month in Spring, that is what my data is, so it takes in all weather conditions. I’d be interested to know. I suspect my current consumption is not too dissimilar to yours though not quite as frugal.
You can get this from the car I think.
Thank you.
The ID3 was more like 3.5 over 20000 miles.
TheRainMaker said:
blueg33 said:
So which ev for real 300 miles range in winter that’s not Tesla or Polestar.
You need to ensure you get the Gen 2 Polestar 2 long-range single motor, as the Gen 1 twin motor will not do 300 miles (nowhere close).Mine is more like 200.
blueg33 said:
TheRainMaker said:
blueg33 said:
So which ev for real 300 miles range in winter that’s not Tesla or Polestar.
You need to ensure you get the Gen 2 Polestar 2 long-range single motor, as the Gen 1 twin motor will not do 300 miles (nowhere close).Mine is more like 200.
blueg33 said:
So which ev for real 300 miles range in winter that’s not Tesla or Polestar. I quite like the Ioniq5 I tested but it’s not 300 mile real range.
BMW is also out
I would like something sporty as it will replace my Alfa
BMW iX50 would give you 300 mile real range on motorwayBMW is also out
I would like something sporty as it will replace my Alfa
TheRainMaker said:
You need to ensure you get the Gen 2 Polestar 2 long-range single motor, as the Gen 1 twin motor will not do 300 miles (nowhere close).
Mine is more like 200.
Yes, if I understand the published figures correctly the Gen 1 twin motor is only claimed to do about 300 miles which will presumably translate into a fair bit less in winter? That said 200 miles seems a fair old drop although that still wouldn't be an issue for me on the typical daily mileage I do nowadays; however, the lack of comfort to which blueg33 referred certainly could be an issue though!Mine is more like 200.
JNW1 said:
blueg33 said:
Not a Polestar. Found it very uncomfortable
Out of interest why was that - seats, ride quality or both?A shame because the seats in the Volvo are fantastic
raspy said:
blueg33 said:
So which ev for real 300 miles range in winter that’s not Tesla or Polestar. I quite like the Ioniq5 I tested but it’s not 300 mile real range.
BMW is also out
I would like something sporty as it will replace my Alfa
BMW iX50 would give you 300 mile real range on motorwayBMW is also out
I would like something sporty as it will replace my Alfa
blueg33 said:
JNW1 said:
blueg33 said:
Not a Polestar. Found it very uncomfortable
Out of interest why was that - seats, ride quality or both?A shame because the seats in the Volvo are fantastic
Gassing Station | EV and Alternative Fuels | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff