RE: Bentley Continental GT | High Mile Club

RE: Bentley Continental GT | High Mile Club

Friday 19th January

Bentley Continental GT | High Mile Club

Sure, it's covered 184k and only costs 14 grand - but here's an old GT worth a second look...


While we all love to see a car that’s been obsessively cared for by a doting owner, it does tend to be the same type of vehicle that gets that sort of treatment. Find a hand-written log of fuel consumption or similar and it tends to be the service history of an old British sports car or saloon. We’re generalising, of course - lots of people love lots of different cars - but the point is the Bentley Continental GT is not necessarily one you’d have at the top of a list of beautifully maintained modern classics. 

We all know why, of course. For those who loved old Bentleys, the Conti was too new school and too VW-influenced to be proper, and their considerable contingency fund would go on something with a 6.75 V8. And many who bought them new would have moved onto something else within a few years; Bentley sold so many original GTs that they soon got cheap. And, well, we’ve all seen what tends to happen with cheap luxury cars, where people attempt to run them on a budget fit for the purchase price - and not the original RRP. It tends to end disastrously. 

You’ve probably taken one look at this 2005 GT and reached a conclusion already. Private plate, loads of miles (184k), resale grey, a sub-£15k price tag - avoid at all costs, right? However, here’s a lesson here, surely, in not judging a book by its cover. Because not only has this Bentley not had an MOT fail since April 2017 (six thousand miles ago), its service history includes 38 main dealer visits. 38! At Bentley! Talk about dedication, and expense. The advert suggests there’s more than 100 invoices with the car to document the work undertaken, including fairly recent work to the gearbox, brakes and suspension. 

The laudable (and potentially ruinous) approach to keeping a Bentley on the road is at least reflected in the condition of this one. We’ve all seen plenty of Conti GTs over the past 20 years - there's actually a very nice Dark Sapphire one due to go under the PH hammer this week - and many were in much worse condition than this. And most didn't have more than 180k on them. The bolster wear on the seat isn’t that bad at all, the wheels look smart and the paint seems in great condition. It’s a familiar cliche, sure, though this could most certainly pass for a much lower mileage example. 

Now, of course, to keep a Bentley of this calibre looking this good is going to require a similarly methodical approach. It’s not like the diligence of one owner buys the next a couple of years of slacking off (though a Bentley specialist, rather than a main dealer, is probably alright from now on). Bentley bills stay big whatever the value of the car, and while common faults have been addressed already that isn’t to say a couple more won’t rear their heads. And it’d be reasonable to say some folk might not want to spend that money on a car with so many miles. 

That being said, it’s hard not to be just a little bit curious about the Bentley with almost as many main dealer visits as it has valves. Many lower mileage ones won’t have been so spoilt. Someone has loved this old thing recently, and it’s surely got some life left to lead with similarly conscientious upkeep. There’s even a fresh MOT going on it, to save some angst. And it’s £13,995 before any negotiation. Then, before you know it, the 200,000-mile W12 Bentley will be on the drive. Which is a story to tell, if nothing else. 


See the original advert here

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Horsebox Man

Original Poster:

92 posts

17 months

Friday 19th January
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VFM, could it be Value For Money ??

W12AAM

110 posts

82 months

Friday 19th January
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I think i speak for the majority,here, that we would all love to own a Bentley (of some sorts / budget) one day - me included.
I used to work with someone a few years back who paid around £40k for a nicely sourced one of these ( thought he did all the right checks on the car etc.) - And in his first year of ownership, he spent in excess of £9,000.
Enough said. I couldn't stomach spending that every year...and that's from someone who currently owns an L322 Range Rover!

WPA

8,915 posts

115 months

Friday 19th January
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Massive money pit, run to the hills

dunnoreally

982 posts

109 months

Friday 19th January
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I'm with everyone else so far that all the bargepoles in the world would not be enough.

Godspeed to the absolute lunatic who got it to this mileage, though. May your future super-GTs break down only at times which create a good story!

J4CKO

41,681 posts

201 months

Friday 19th January
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I expect the Venn diagram of people who have the inclination to take a car like this on and the money to do it is quite a small intersection. Bentleys are bought and run by rich people for whom the maintenance is largely inconsequential, but they largely dont buy 19 year old ones.

However, as leggy, almost 20 year old Bentleys go this one doesnt say run away quite as loudly as most of them you see sat looking forlorn in the classifieds, advertised from a sketchy looking hand car wash in the arse end of Birmingham.

It looks cared for, its not been messed with and looks pretty much like it did in 2005, it seems like its been used, enjoyed and looked after by someone who knows what needs doing and not skimped it into the ground.

In this case the high mileage is weirdly reassuring, its been used and things replaced and issues ironed out, that mileage shouldnt be a massive issue for a car like that if looked after, I would be poring over all those invoices and cross referencing it with all the research I would have done if I was going into something like that.

I would say to buy this and run it for three years, double the purchase price, thats your budget, buy it for say 12/13 and keep the rest back, if you dont spend it all happy days, if you do, its a leggy old Bentley, what did you expect ! Then bail out, take a bit of a hit but know when to cash out.


Mark-C

5,184 posts

206 months

Friday 19th January
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If you really want a Conti GT and have, say, £35-40k available to you then I reckon it makes a lot of sense to buy this one and use the remaining funds to keep it serviced and maintained properly for 4-5 years (maybe longer if the gods are smiling on you) rather than splashing your whole budget on a newer car with lower miles and not being able to look after it properly.


Matt_T

415 posts

75 months

Friday 19th January
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I think that it's got a full set of Pirelli P-Zeros on it, which maybe tells you something about the approach of the owner.
This could be a very cunning buy...

Robertb

1,497 posts

239 months

Friday 19th January
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J4CKO said:
I expect the Venn diagram of people who have the inclination to take a car like this on and the money to do it is quite a small intersection. Bentleys are bought and run by rich people for whom the maintenance is largely inconsequential, but they largely dont buy 19 year old ones.

However, as leggy, almost 20 year old Bentleys go this one doesnt say run away quite as loudly as most of them you see sat looking forlorn in the classifieds, advertised from a sketchy looking hand car wash in the arse end of Birmingham.

It looks cared for, its not been messed with and looks pretty much like it did in 2005, it seems like its been used, enjoyed and looked after by someone who knows what needs doing and not skimped it into the ground.

In this case the high mileage is weirdly reassuring, its been used and things replaced and issues ironed out, that mileage shouldnt be a massive issue for a car like that if looked after, I would be poring over all those invoices and cross referencing it with all the research I would have done if I was going into something like that.

I would say to buy this and run it for three years, double the purchase price, thats your budget, buy it for say 12/13 and keep the rest back, if you dont spend it all happy days, if you do, its a leggy old Bentley, what did you expect ! Then bail out, take a bit of a hit but know when to cash out.
Agreed. The only odd thing in the MOT history is that the owners drove it so much but never seemed to get the tyres replaced, literally wearing them out!

Over £69,000 has been spent on fuel...

Im actually quite optimistic about this car. It appears to have been properly maintained, and what it has needed its had done. The leather interior is in fantastic nick, for the mileage.

Its presumably spent much of its life thundering along motorways at 80mph doing 1200 rpm.

Even if it halves in value in the next two years it will still be cheaper to run I'll wager than a newer more expensive one. Cheaper road tax too, happy days.

The only issue is that there are cheaper, much lower mileage cars for sale, though I appreciate "buy on condition" etc.

Richard-390a0

2,274 posts

92 months

Friday 19th January
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Matt_T said:
I think that it's got a full set of Pirelli P-Zeros on it, which maybe tells you something about the approach of the owner.
This could be a very cunning buy...
I wouldn't read too much into that considering the number of MOT failures this old boat has had for knackered / bald tyres....

Gigamoons

17,754 posts

201 months

Friday 19th January
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What were these new, £100k?

With 38 main dealer visits, I'd not be surprised if the owner gave the dealer another £100k to run it.

And 185k miles at lets average 12.7mpg at £1.50/ltr, that's another £100k in motion lotion.

Big numbers, but what nice way to rack up that many miles!

BFleming

3,617 posts

144 months

Friday 19th January
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My neighbour has one of these (in black) with 70k miles on it & in pristine condition. I think he'd be overjoyed to get £14k for his!
He was flagged down on the motorway one night recently - seems his rear lights weren't working. One light switch replacement later - which I did for him - & there was light! It's a superbly (over)engineered bit of kit.

Edited by BFleming on Friday 19th January 14:05

jwwbowe

579 posts

173 months

Friday 19th January
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Surely it can’t get much lower than that but that’ll gobble up another £14k in a heartbeat

Gigamoons

17,754 posts

201 months

Friday 19th January
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Robertb said:
Agreed. The only odd thing in the MOT history is that the owners drove it so much but never seemed to get the tyres replaced, literally wearing them out!

Over £69,000 has been spent on fuel...

Im actually quite optimistic about this car. It appears to have been properly maintained, and what it has needed its had done. The leather interior is in fantastic nick, for the mileage.

Its presumably spent much of its life thundering along motorways at 80mph doing 1200 rpm.

Even if it halves in value in the next two years it will still be cheaper to run I'll wager than a newer more expensive one. Cheaper road tax too, happy days.

The only issue is that there are cheaper, much lower mileage cars for sale, though I appreciate "buy on condition" etc.
For me this car only makes sense if you:
a) don't do a lot of miles
b) consider yourself to be the last owner and write off the £14k purchase cost
c) are of an income bracket / co car opt out payments that can lease a decent BMW 5 series etc
d) fancy rolling the dice for the lolz on this for a couple of years

Budget £2k/yr for an MOT and an oil change, that's £750/mth exc fuel and insurance over 24 months.

If you keep it longer / manage to sell if for anything after that, you win.
If it borks within 2 years, you lose.

Man maths wink

Dr G

15,226 posts

243 months

Friday 19th January
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J4CKO said:
I would say to buy this and run it for three years, double the purchase price, thats your budget, buy it for say 12/13 and keep the rest back, if you dont spend it all happy days, if you do, its a leggy old Bentley, what did you expect ! Then bail out, take a bit of a hit but know when to cash out.
With a little bit of luck you could have that for 2 years for ~20k all in, and maybe even get half of it back at the end if it still works.

As you say, the worst case is the gearbox goes kaboom 6 months in and it goes to a breaker for 5-8k.

It's not that wildly different from the "got a cheap 997/348/GTR on ebay" type stories, is it? Plenty of people do that.

Glenn63

2,831 posts

85 months

Friday 19th January
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Old Bentleys do seem to your lure you in but Iv never been brave enough. Iv recently been looking at ‘sensible’ daily’s, started with 3 series and some how worked my way to this, I like it! laugh

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202401115...

smilo996

2,811 posts

171 months

Friday 19th January
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Would love a big old Crewe Bentley. These are a sort of odd pastiche and the styling is all over the place and very 90's
If the new Batur design backs into the Conti then all good. how it should have looked in the first place.

sixor8

6,313 posts

269 months

Friday 19th January
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You can get them with reasonable mileage for not much more. 89k miles, 2005, sold at auction for £16,675 :

https://www.manorparkclassics.com/auction/lot/lot-...

Or even less money if you're brave. 132k miles, 2005, £10,688:

https://www.handh.co.uk/auction/lot/18-2005-bentle...

There have been cat N and cat D car too of course. smile



dunnoreally

982 posts

109 months

Friday 19th January
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smilo996 said:
Would love a big old Crewe Bentley. These are a sort of odd pastiche and the styling is all over the place and very 90's
If the new Batur design backs into the Conti then all good. how it should have looked in the first place.
That shade of light grey with a huge grille, aggressive headlights and extra black plastic styling bits at the sides and rear? The old one might have been very 90s, but the Batur is extremely 2020s. Whether you like that look or not (I think you can infer my thoughts!), there's no way Bentley would have made something that looked like that in 2003.

sandysinclair

303 posts

208 months

Friday 19th January
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I bought a 2007 GTC main dealer car utterly immaculate 28000 miles fsh, just serviced , new brakes , new tyres loved it ...then within the first week broke down , bill £2700 , next month another £1000, then 4 months later the front shocks went £2000 , in summary more expensive to run than the Murci I had per mile , which I put 22000 miles on running it as my daily driver . Bentley Conti is a fabulous car but fk me it's expensive to run .....and that's not even discussing the whole 2 or 3 pages of other even more expensive engine out stuff that can go wrong with them . Stay well well away ......

Robertb

1,497 posts

239 months

Friday 19th January
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Glenn63 said:
Old Bentleys do seem to your lure you in but Iv never been brave enough. Iv recently been looking at ‘sensible’ daily’s, started with 3 series and some how worked my way to this, I like it! laugh

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202401115...
That's the spirit!

Has to be said, something like that would be a real sense of occasion, and perhaps more fun in today's crowded, speed-limited roads than a sports car. This is a 'proper' engined one as well.

Think of all the V Power points you'd get, it would practically pay for itself