Man or bear?

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WCZ

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10,549 posts

195 months

Monday 6th May
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Noticed this question blowing up on social media recently:

Alone in the woods at night, would you encounter a completely randomly selected man or a bear

The majority of females surveyed responded a bear.

I had a look around various forums and such as well as asking a few female friends this myself and was surprised that was their answer too - to me this is a bit of a shock of just how badly men appear to be perceived by females - perhaps I’m out of touch or something ! (Unless people just aren’t scared of bears at all!)

bitchstewie

51,603 posts

211 months

Monday 6th May
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Talk to a few women about how they moderate and change their behaviour just because some men can't behave and whilst I'm assuming that with "man or bear" the choice of "bear" probably isn't meant literally it's understandable why they might say "ideally not a man".

The_Nugget

652 posts

58 months

Monday 6th May
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WCZ said:
Noticed this question blowing up on social media recently:

Alone in the woods at night, would you encounter a completely randomly selected man or a bear

The majority of females surveyed responded a bear.

I had a look around various forums and such as well as asking a few female friends this myself and was surprised that was their answer too - to me this is a bit of a shock of just how badly men appear to be perceived by females - perhaps I’m out of touch or something ! (Unless people just aren’t scared of bears at all!)
Just shows that most people’s perception of risk is poor. I’m pretty sure you’d be fine with 99.9% of men. Not sure the same could be said of bears. That’s in terms of likelihood of something bad happening.
In terms of impact, pretty sure most people would rather fight a man than a bear…

The Rotrex Kid

30,386 posts

161 months

Monday 6th May
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The_Nugget said:
Just shows that most people’s perception of risk is poor. I’m pretty sure you’d be fine with 99.9% of men. Not sure the same could be said of bears. That’s in terms of likelihood of something bad happening.
In terms of impact, pretty sure most people would rather fight a man than a bear…
I think the point is that the bear is just likely to maul you to death, which while incredibly unpleasant, doesn’t really compare to the physical and psychological abuse a man could do.

Bears just kill. Men torture, rape and kill.

I can see exactly why women would take their chances with the bear.

The_Nugget

652 posts

58 months

Monday 6th May
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The Rotrex Kid said:
I think the point is that the bear is just likely to maul you to death, which while incredibly unpleasant, doesn’t really compare to the physical and psychological abuse a man could do.

Bears just kill. Men torture, rape and kill.

I can see exactly why women would take their chances with the bear.
I can see why people on Facebook might say that, in my experience of people walking past each other in the woods is a nod or a smile is the most likely reaction.
Haven’t got any experience of watching people walk past bears, but pretty sure they’d be more scared…

Heathwood

2,555 posts

203 months

Monday 6th May
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I read somewhere that the bigger bears don’t really have to compete with other amimals in the food chain taking their meal and, therefore, they just eat you. Whether you’re dead or alive at the time is of little concerns to them.

Is the average man, or the female perception of the average man, really that bad that getting eaten alive is preferable?

Skeptisk

7,559 posts

110 months

Monday 6th May
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Heathwood said:
I read somewhere that the bigger bears don’t really have to compete with other amimals in the food chain taking their meal and, therefore, they just eat you. Whether you’re dead or alive at the time is of little concerns to them.

Is the average man, or the female perception of the average man, really that bad that getting eaten alive is preferable?
Trying to find statistics. Global deaths from bears each year seem to be less than ten. That probably reflects relative lack of interaction between humans and bears.

I can understand why women voted as they did even if statistically it doesn’t make sense.

Goaty Bill 2

3,416 posts

120 months

Monday 6th May
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The Rotrex Kid said:
The_Nugget said:
Just shows that most people’s perception of risk is poor. I’m pretty sure you’d be fine with 99.9% of men. Not sure the same could be said of bears. That’s in terms of likelihood of something bad happening.
In terms of impact, pretty sure most people would rather fight a man than a bear…
I think the point is that the bear is just likely to maul you to death, which while incredibly unpleasant, doesn’t really compare to the physical and psychological abuse a man could do.

Bears just kill. Men torture, rape and kill.

I can see exactly why women would take their chances with the bear.
This could only be imagined by someone who has never come across a bear in the wild.
If a man comes after you, you stand some chance. If a bear comes after you with intent, your chances are considerably lower.

Never go into bear territory with someone you can't outrun.






The Rotrex Kid

30,386 posts

161 months

Monday 6th May
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Goaty Bill 2 said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
The_Nugget said:
Just shows that most people’s perception of risk is poor. I’m pretty sure you’d be fine with 99.9% of men. Not sure the same could be said of bears. That’s in terms of likelihood of something bad happening.
In terms of impact, pretty sure most people would rather fight a man than a bear…
I think the point is that the bear is just likely to maul you to death, which while incredibly unpleasant, doesn’t really compare to the physical and psychological abuse a man could do.

Bears just kill. Men torture, rape and kill.

I can see exactly why women would take their chances with the bear.
This could only be imagined by someone who has never come across a bear in the wild.
If a man comes after you, you stand some chance. If a bear comes after you with intent, your chances are considerably lower.

Never go into bear territory with someone you can't outrun.
Isn’t that what I said? Chances are that a bear (take into account that the type, size, aggression etc are not specified, in the same way that the man’s intentions aren’t described) will undoubtedly kill you if you can’t outrun it, but that’s not the point.

It’s the fact that most women (not men, the answers will be very different for men) would prefer to take the chances of just being mauled to death over the chances of what a random man could do to them.

If you can’t understand that then I assume you don’t have a wife/daughter or have ever been in contact with anyone who has been through the psychological torment of being raped.

A bear isn’t going to rape you, or possibly then go on to torture you whilst taking pleasure from that before maybe finally killing you, there’s a chance that the random man in the woods might want to do that and with that slight chance, women would rather risk getting dismembered by a bear, I completely understand why.

Heathwood

2,555 posts

203 months

Monday 6th May
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Yes I can understand why a female would prefer to come face to face with a bear than a murdering rapist, but the average man (who will likely just say hi and and walk on by)?

bitchstewie

51,603 posts

211 months

Monday 6th May
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This might be worth a read if you're open to considering why some women answered as they did.

https://www.port.ac.uk/news-events-and-blogs/blogs...

mac96

3,816 posts

144 months

Monday 6th May
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bhstewie said:
This might be worth a read if you're open to considering why some women answered as they did.

https://www.port.ac.uk/news-events-and-blogs/blogs...
Plenty of sensible stuff there, and this is a serious issue which deserves better than the clickbait 'Man or Bear' nonsense which just implies that the respondents were asked a misleading question or genuinely have no idea of risk.

It states that 30% of women suffer harm at the hands of men in their lifetime. That's bad enough without the melodrama, but let's think about it. Those women had interactions with men every day of their lives.Few of them led to assault.I don't know how many women have had even one interaction with a bear, but it will be vanishingly few. If every woman in the world encountered a wild bear as often as she encounters a man, then there might be a useful comparison.And probably few women left.

popeyewhite

20,036 posts

121 months

Monday 6th May
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I can't understand how any human can possibly prefer to meet a bear in the scenario described. Barmy.

Heathwood

2,555 posts

203 months

Monday 6th May
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popeyewhite said:
Barmy.
You mean Barney wink

GliderRider

2,131 posts

82 months

Monday 6th May
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Perhaps the women who have encountered bears are no longer available to take part in the survey?

Jasey_

4,914 posts

179 months

Monday 6th May
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Get them to watch the revenant.

NRG1976

1,064 posts

11 months

Monday 6th May
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The Rotrex Kid said:
The_Nugget said:
Just shows that most people’s perception of risk is poor. I’m pretty sure you’d be fine with 99.9% of men. Not sure the same could be said of bears. That’s in terms of likelihood of something bad happening.
In terms of impact, pretty sure most people would rather fight a man than a bear…
I think the point is that the bear is just likely to maul you to death, which while incredibly unpleasant, doesn’t really compare to the physical and psychological abuse a man could do.

Bears just kill. Men torture, rape and kill.

I can see exactly why women would take their chances with the bear.
I don’t suspect that much thought has gone into responses.

mac96

3,816 posts

144 months

Monday 6th May
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NRG1976 said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
The_Nugget said:
Just shows that most people’s perception of risk is poor. I’m pretty sure you’d be fine with 99.9% of men. Not sure the same could be said of bears. That’s in terms of likelihood of something bad happening.
In terms of impact, pretty sure most people would rather fight a man than a bear…
I think the point is that the bear is just likely to maul you to death, which while incredibly unpleasant, doesn’t really compare to the physical and psychological abuse a man could do.

Bears just kill. Men torture, rape and kill.

I can see exactly why women would take their chances with the bear.
I don’t suspect that much thought has gone into responses.
Rather more went into the clickbait question though, and most of the respondents gave the desired response.

thegreenhell

15,524 posts

220 months

Monday 6th May
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What kind of bear is it?

NRG1976

1,064 posts

11 months

Monday 6th May
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thegreenhell said:
What kind of bear is it?
Goes by the name of Yogi and is scared of the park ranger