Russia Invades Ukraine. Volume 4
Discussion
borcy said:
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/17875087...
Some indication the Russians have lost an Su34.
apparently with two of their best crew on board. Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.Some indication the Russians have lost an Su34.
pingu393 said:
Cheib said:
The cluster ATACMS have 900 “bomblets”, there’s another version which has a unitary warhead alongside 300 “bomblets and then there’s a version with just a “big bang” unitary warhead. Not sure which are short range and which long range.
If Ukraine had enough of them to use them liberally for a few weeks you could imagine them making a massive dent in Russia’s capabilities.
It's the perfect weapon if UKR can identify the ruzzian forming-up positions in time.If Ukraine had enough of them to use them liberally for a few weeks you could imagine them making a massive dent in Russia’s capabilities.
There will be hundreds of them all in one location, just ripe for plugging.
Each UKR has to kill three ruzzians. This weapon helps keep up the average.
pingu393 said:
pingu393 said:
Cheib said:
The cluster ATACMS have 900 “bomblets”, there’s another version which has a unitary warhead alongside 300 “bomblets and then there’s a version with just a “big bang” unitary warhead. Not sure which are short range and which long range.
If Ukraine had enough of them to use them liberally for a few weeks you could imagine them making a massive dent in Russia’s capabilities.
It's the perfect weapon if UKR can identify the ruzzian forming-up positions in time.If Ukraine had enough of them to use them liberally for a few weeks you could imagine them making a massive dent in Russia’s capabilities.
There will be hundreds of them all in one location, just ripe for plugging.
Each UKR has to kill three ruzzians. This weapon helps keep up the average.
CharlesdeGaulle said:
What's this Russians spelt with zs all about?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(military_symbol...BrettMRC said:
It’s getting embarrassing now isn’t it. W12GT said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
MightyBadger said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Yeah, that's very proportionate!
Do you think Cameron was right to say that? Do you agree with it? Originally we were just helping them to defend Ukraine.Yes he was right to say it.
And we're right not to rule out boots on the ground either.
Putin won't stop until he knows he can't win, everything we do to make him think quitting is his best option helps end the war.
We then proceed to move a shed load of mobile nuclear weaponry to highly visible locations directed to Russia. I have a feeling Russia would have their own way of dealing with Putin.
MrGman said:
BrettMRC said:
It’s getting embarrassing now isn’t it. MrGman said:
BrettMRC said:
It’s getting embarrassing now isn’t it. Armageddin bored of the nuclear threats 
On another subject, I saw a vid of a Russian motivational talk by a commander to troops about to go to the frontline. It basically said "you are all going to die, but its ok your name will be on a memorial for ever"
They really don't give a jot about human life. Seeing some of the drone vids, the end is not pleasant either, lots of horrible leg injuries and bleeding out slowly
On another subject, I saw a vid of a Russian motivational talk by a commander to troops about to go to the frontline. It basically said "you are all going to die, but its ok your name will be on a memorial for ever"
They really don't give a jot about human life. Seeing some of the drone vids, the end is not pleasant either, lots of horrible leg injuries and bleeding out slowly
borcy said:
Not really a surprise as the war drags on I suppose. Early on it's obviously easy to get people to sign up to resist the invaders but 2 years in of a rather nasty war mainly far to the east.......bit different.isaldiri said:
borcy said:
Not really a surprise as the war drags on I suppose. Early on it's obviously easy to get people to sign up to resist the invaders but 2 years in of a rather nasty war mainly far to the east.......bit different.At least the Urkaine are using their own, rather than hoovering-up souls from dependent satelite nations, like some macabre meat grinder.
The Russians do not have the ability to thrust into Ukraine, they have illustrated that as the arms for Ukraine atrophied this winter. They only have the grinding, meat assault and heavy material loss type of war.
The conscription issue within Ukraine should also be clarified. They had a move from 27 to 25 years of age. Given that most countries have 18 years of age as a military service entry point, having a 9 year cushion when you are trying to wage a war should be seen in its true context.
I hope the next move will be to take out the air bases and launch sites rather than just missiles in the air.
The conscription issue within Ukraine should also be clarified. They had a move from 27 to 25 years of age. Given that most countries have 18 years of age as a military service entry point, having a 9 year cushion when you are trying to wage a war should be seen in its true context.
I hope the next move will be to take out the air bases and launch sites rather than just missiles in the air.
TheJimi said:
W12GT said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
MightyBadger said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Yeah, that's very proportionate!
Do you think Cameron was right to say that? Do you agree with it? Originally we were just helping them to defend Ukraine.Yes he was right to say it.
And we're right not to rule out boots on the ground either.
Putin won't stop until he knows he can't win, everything we do to make him think quitting is his best option helps end the war.
We then proceed to move a shed load of mobile nuclear weaponry to highly visible locations directed to Russia. I have a feeling Russia would have their own way of dealing with Putin.
sisu said:
The Russians do not have the ability to thrust into Ukraine, they have illustrated that as the arms for Ukraine atrophied this winter. They only have the grinding, meat assault and heavy material loss type of war.
The conscription issue within Ukraine should also be clarified. They had a move from 27 to 25 years of age. Given that most countries have 18 years of age as a military service entry point, having a 9 year cushion when you are trying to wage a war should be seen in its true context.
I hope the next move will be to take out the air bases and launch sites rather than just missiles in the air.
Zelenskyy has been very keen to protect the young Ukrainian men rather than throwing them all at the frontline, there will come a point where he will have to lower it to 18. I understand he is thinking of the future with brain drain issues etc but the point has been raised on several podcasts that the prime fighting age is 18-25.The conscription issue within Ukraine should also be clarified. They had a move from 27 to 25 years of age. Given that most countries have 18 years of age as a military service entry point, having a 9 year cushion when you are trying to wage a war should be seen in its true context.
I hope the next move will be to take out the air bases and launch sites rather than just missiles in the air.
Some of these Ukrainian soldiers are well into their 40's with very little rotation on the frontline.
RichFN2 said:
Zelenskyy has been very keen to protect the young Ukrainian men rather than throwing them all at the frontline, there will come a point where he will have to lower it to 18. I understand he is thinking of the future with brain drain issues etc but the point has been raised on several podcasts that the prime fighting age is 18-25.
Some of these Ukrainian soldiers are well into their 40's with very little rotation on the frontline.
There aren't that many Ukrainans in the 18-25 range. That demographic has already collapsed. Like Russia's.Some of these Ukrainian soldiers are well into their 40's with very little rotation on the frontline.
Not sure what the solution is.
BikeBikeBIke said:
RichFN2 said:
Zelenskyy has been very keen to protect the young Ukrainian men rather than throwing them all at the frontline, there will come a point where he will have to lower it to 18. I understand he is thinking of the future with brain drain issues etc but the point has been raised on several podcasts that the prime fighting age is 18-25.
Some of these Ukrainian soldiers are well into their 40's with very little rotation on the frontline.
There aren't that many Ukrainans in the 18-25 range. That demographic has already collapsed. Like Russia's.Some of these Ukrainian soldiers are well into their 40's with very little rotation on the frontline.
Not sure what the solution is.
Tuapse refinery hit by Ukraine on 25 January is back producing oil
Jan25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ctq3FrJTI&ab...
https://kyivindependent.com/reuters-tuapse-refiner...
According to the article it produced 20,000 metric tons of oil on May 1, which is 169,000 barrels according to my internet search.
That was a quick repair considering the size of the fire?
Jan25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ctq3FrJTI&ab...
https://kyivindependent.com/reuters-tuapse-refiner...
According to the article it produced 20,000 metric tons of oil on May 1, which is 169,000 barrels according to my internet search.
That was a quick repair considering the size of the fire?
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