45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)
Discussion
McGee_22 said:
Perhaps it’s my odd sense of perspective but I see it as the opposite end of the spectrum to compulsory voting - both systems are there to reduce and discourage voter apathy which, let’s be fair, can be a danger to and sometimes the death of democracy’s.
Compulsory voting does nothing to combat voter apathy, it just hides it. I'm the last UK GE the number of spoiled ballots was under 0.4% where as in Australia in 2022 it averaged at 6.75% nationally with the majority having no markings. Some seats had as high as 10% with the electorate with the highest number got over 20% of votes being declared invalid at the count.
A lot of Australians just tick the first box, unfortunately there is no way to measure this beyond how many votes that candidate (MP) or party (senate) gets and just how coveted the first box on the ballot is. If it goes to a minor party, the majority parties are bending over backwards for a preference deal.
Honestly with the obvious flaws of the Wyoming system, I'd prefer it to the Australian system of fining you A$180 for not voting (this now applies to state and local elections and Australia has 3 year terms). At least with a non compulsory system, we know how good or bad engagement is by the percentage of the electorate that doesn't vote.
McGee_22 said:
Perhaps it’s my odd sense of perspective but I see it as the opposite end of the spectrum to compulsory voting - both systems are there to reduce and discourage voter apathy which, let’s be fair, can be a danger to and sometimes the death of democracy’s.
Mmmm. I saw one of the earlier UK local election results this morning, based on only a one third turnout. Hardly a vote in favour of exercising democratic rights. Whoozit said:
Mmmm. I saw one of the earlier UK local election results this morning, based on only a one third turnout. Hardly a vote in favour of exercising democratic rights.
Local elections have always had a low turnout, I'd be more interested of more or fewer people turned out for this one compared to the last local election. In my council, that was last year.
ScotHill said:
Byker28i said:
Interesting way to maintain the roll though, and quite drastic? Don't vote you get removed and have to register again?
I found it surprising.
Apparently you can re-register on the day with whatever ID you would need to bring to vote anyway, with a couple of exceptions. Seems like a non-story, in relation to Trump anyway, just the way things have worked for years.I found it surprising.
threespires said:
Trump Jr joined Trump Snr in court yesterday.
Trump Jr's trumps trumped Trump Snr's trumps.
Eric was in court after many people reported trump had no family there. Probably the only recognisable trump with family values, had to sit and listen about daddy's multiple lengthy affairs.Trump Jr's trumps trumped Trump Snr's trumps.
And the business fraud in the company where he's one of the officers
Byker28i said:
threespires said:
Trump Jr joined Trump Snr in court yesterday.
Trump Jr's trumps trumped Trump Snr's trumps.
Eric was in court after many people reported trump had no family there. Probably the only recognisable trump with family values, had to sit and listen about daddy's multiple lengthy affairs.Trump Jr's trumps trumped Trump Snr's trumps.
And the business fraud in the company where he's one of the officers
VonSchitzenpants is trending
Someones faked Marge
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786347892350857543
and faked
Someones faked Marge
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786347892350857543
and faked
More Nuata based testimony released.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...
trump unusually returned to magalardo 'to check on things', upto 20 boxes moved into the storage room, a laptop with PDF scans of the stolen documents, details of his phones...
and Nuata contacted a Secret Service agent from the storage room, who said he was walking over? Is this the same one he was texting before?
The agents whose phones all got wiped and swapped out?
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...
trump unusually returned to magalardo 'to check on things', upto 20 boxes moved into the storage room, a laptop with PDF scans of the stolen documents, details of his phones...
and Nuata contacted a Secret Service agent from the storage room, who said he was walking over? Is this the same one he was texting before?
The agents whose phones all got wiped and swapped out?
Edited by Byker28i on Friday 3rd May 13:31
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
Matt Harper said:
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
CivicDuties said:
Matt Harper said:
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
Virginia man arrested for trying to claim 8 of his co-workers took part in trumps insurrection, logged false tips to the FBI
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...
RustyMX5 said:
CivicDuties said:
Matt Harper said:
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
Here's a famous Boli?:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvir_Boli%C4%87
(Credentials: a degree in Russian with a specialisation in Comparative Slavonic Philology, and also a decent Serbo-Croat speaker.)
Edited by CivicDuties on Friday 3rd May 15:09
CivicDuties said:
RustyMX5 said:
CivicDuties said:
Matt Harper said:
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
Here's a famous Boli?:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvir_Boli%C4%87
(Credentials: a degree in Russian with a specialisation in Comparative Slavonic Philology, and also a decent Serbo-Croat speaker.)
Edited by CivicDuties on Friday 3rd May 15:09
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