Anybody won one of those car lotteries?
Discussion
So, I bought a few tickets for the LLF stage 3 M3 and as usual the live draw plugs this n that, promotions etc. which I guess is all part of it.
I was following the entry lists and matching the numbers and everything seemed above board then the first number that was generated, from ~170,000 ticket sales wasn’t sold. There was a gap in the sequence where for example googles random number generator landed on 100,002 bit that number wasn’t sold. They did sel 100,001 and 100,103 so a redraw it was.
The number hit and a person named Luis has apparently won the car. On attempting to call luis though there was no response, straight to voicemail and not WhatsApp account to call them that way.
I can’t see how this is rigged when you factor in the random number generator and there are gaps in the ticket number sequences. I can only assume that someone starts an order then a ticket number is reserved in the database but then the buyer doesn’t complete the sale or increases / decreases the amount of tickets bought, therefor breaking the sequence. From the data there are multiple identical names within short ticket sequences so I know that one ticket is represented by a unique number but feels like a bit of a sham. But of course I didn’t win so I’m biased.
Additionally, and I know this doesn’t mean too much to prove a companies legitimacy but companies hous records for LLF Games ltd doesn’t show a great deal in terms of asset, cash in the bank, etc. how do they manage the profits? They are obviously buying the cars from someone so that will be a capital outlay so let’s assume they paid £100k for the M3 on sale or return, or whatever. 170k tickets at a quid each would show £70k profit on the car alone.? I’m not by any means an accountant not understand p&l very well but I would have thought that the accounts would show some heft?
I know people win, I have a close friend who won and RS3 and £20k from one of them recently but I’ve no idea how much he put into it, if that even matters….
The cynic in me says that those who only buy a small number of tickets are allocated a low range ticket number and high rollers are at the other end and somehow they are getting Google to always land in the higher range ticket numbers but that shouldn’t matter. They still make the money on total ticket sales, not number of tickets bought by a single person…
Sigh….
I was following the entry lists and matching the numbers and everything seemed above board then the first number that was generated, from ~170,000 ticket sales wasn’t sold. There was a gap in the sequence where for example googles random number generator landed on 100,002 bit that number wasn’t sold. They did sel 100,001 and 100,103 so a redraw it was.
The number hit and a person named Luis has apparently won the car. On attempting to call luis though there was no response, straight to voicemail and not WhatsApp account to call them that way.
I can’t see how this is rigged when you factor in the random number generator and there are gaps in the ticket number sequences. I can only assume that someone starts an order then a ticket number is reserved in the database but then the buyer doesn’t complete the sale or increases / decreases the amount of tickets bought, therefor breaking the sequence. From the data there are multiple identical names within short ticket sequences so I know that one ticket is represented by a unique number but feels like a bit of a sham. But of course I didn’t win so I’m biased.
Additionally, and I know this doesn’t mean too much to prove a companies legitimacy but companies hous records for LLF Games ltd doesn’t show a great deal in terms of asset, cash in the bank, etc. how do they manage the profits? They are obviously buying the cars from someone so that will be a capital outlay so let’s assume they paid £100k for the M3 on sale or return, or whatever. 170k tickets at a quid each would show £70k profit on the car alone.? I’m not by any means an accountant not understand p&l very well but I would have thought that the accounts would show some heft?
I know people win, I have a close friend who won and RS3 and £20k from one of them recently but I’ve no idea how much he put into it, if that even matters….
The cynic in me says that those who only buy a small number of tickets are allocated a low range ticket number and high rollers are at the other end and somehow they are getting Google to always land in the higher range ticket numbers but that shouldn’t matter. They still make the money on total ticket sales, not number of tickets bought by a single person…
Sigh….
Davie_GLA said:
So, I bought a few tickets for the LLF stage 3 M3 and as usual the live draw plugs this n that, promotions etc. which I guess is all part of it.
I was following the entry lists and matching the numbers and everything seemed above board then the first number that was generated, from ~170,000 ticket sales wasn’t sold. There was a gap in the sequence where for example googles random number generator landed on 100,002 bit that number wasn’t sold. They did sel 100,001 and 100,103 so a redraw it was.
The number hit and a person named Luis has apparently won the car. On attempting to call luis though there was no response, straight to voicemail and not WhatsApp account to call them that way.
I can’t see how this is rigged when you factor in the random number generator and there are gaps in the ticket number sequences. I can only assume that someone starts an order then a ticket number is reserved in the database but then the buyer doesn’t complete the sale or increases / decreases the amount of tickets bought, therefor breaking the sequence. From the data there are multiple identical names within short ticket sequences so I know that one ticket is represented by a unique number but feels like a bit of a sham. But of course I didn’t win so I’m biased.
Additionally, and I know this doesn’t mean too much to prove a companies legitimacy but companies hous records for LLF Games ltd doesn’t show a great deal in terms of asset, cash in the bank, etc. how do they manage the profits? They are obviously buying the cars from someone so that will be a capital outlay so let’s assume they paid £100k for the M3 on sale or return, or whatever. 170k tickets at a quid each would show £70k profit on the car alone.? I’m not by any means an accountant not understand p&l very well but I would have thought that the accounts would show some heft?
I know people win, I have a close friend who won and RS3 and £20k from one of them recently but I’ve no idea how much he put into it, if that even matters….
The cynic in me says that those who only buy a small number of tickets are allocated a low range ticket number and high rollers are at the other end and somehow they are getting Google to always land in the higher range ticket numbers but that shouldn’t matter. They still make the money on total ticket sales, not number of tickets bought by a single person…
Sigh….
Who to trust in this game, is a very relevant question. That being a key consequence of the lack regulation/policing of it all. I’ve personally witnessed fraud in these comps/raffles, and one outfit that came to the attention of this thread in the past 6 months, is just a front for money laundering.I was following the entry lists and matching the numbers and everything seemed above board then the first number that was generated, from ~170,000 ticket sales wasn’t sold. There was a gap in the sequence where for example googles random number generator landed on 100,002 bit that number wasn’t sold. They did sel 100,001 and 100,103 so a redraw it was.
The number hit and a person named Luis has apparently won the car. On attempting to call luis though there was no response, straight to voicemail and not WhatsApp account to call them that way.
I can’t see how this is rigged when you factor in the random number generator and there are gaps in the ticket number sequences. I can only assume that someone starts an order then a ticket number is reserved in the database but then the buyer doesn’t complete the sale or increases / decreases the amount of tickets bought, therefor breaking the sequence. From the data there are multiple identical names within short ticket sequences so I know that one ticket is represented by a unique number but feels like a bit of a sham. But of course I didn’t win so I’m biased.
Additionally, and I know this doesn’t mean too much to prove a companies legitimacy but companies hous records for LLF Games ltd doesn’t show a great deal in terms of asset, cash in the bank, etc. how do they manage the profits? They are obviously buying the cars from someone so that will be a capital outlay so let’s assume they paid £100k for the M3 on sale or return, or whatever. 170k tickets at a quid each would show £70k profit on the car alone.? I’m not by any means an accountant not understand p&l very well but I would have thought that the accounts would show some heft?
I know people win, I have a close friend who won and RS3 and £20k from one of them recently but I’ve no idea how much he put into it, if that even matters….
The cynic in me says that those who only buy a small number of tickets are allocated a low range ticket number and high rollers are at the other end and somehow they are getting Google to always land in the higher range ticket numbers but that shouldn’t matter. They still make the money on total ticket sales, not number of tickets bought by a single person…
Sigh….
Don’t trust any company using Google RNG. It’s easily hackable to produce any number you want.
Edited by Horsey McHorseface on Monday 6th May 00:38
Its Just Adz said:
Even so, I don't believe they won't make it there for next Sunday.
You will be surprised how long 2nd class can take sometimes with further potential delays at the p.o box sorting office before they will even recieve them. So it's definitely not guaranteed to be there
I’ve met Ricky LLF a few times and meets and shows and he seems like a very nice guy but LLF games, there is something I don’t quite trust, I could be wrong of course
Davie_GLA said:
So, I bought a few tickets for the LLF stage 3 M3 and as usual the live draw plugs this n that, promotions etc. which I guess is all part of it.
I was following the entry lists and matching the numbers and everything seemed above board then the first number that was generated, from ~170,000 ticket sales wasn’t sold. There was a gap in the sequence where for example googles random number generator landed on 100,002 bit that number wasn’t sold. They did sel 100,001 and 100,103 so a redraw it was.
The number hit and a person named Luis has apparently won the car. On attempting to call luis though there was no response, straight to voicemail and not WhatsApp account to call them that way.
I can’t see how this is rigged when you factor in the random number generator and there are gaps in the ticket number sequences. I can only assume that someone starts an order then a ticket number is reserved in the database but then the buyer doesn’t complete the sale or increases / decreases the amount of tickets bought, therefor breaking the sequence. From the data there are multiple identical names within short ticket sequences so I know that one ticket is represented by a unique number but feels like a bit of a sham. But of course I didn’t win so I’m biased.
Additionally, and I know this doesn’t mean too much to prove a companies legitimacy but companies hous records for LLF Games ltd doesn’t show a great deal in terms of asset, cash in the bank, etc. how do they manage the profits? They are obviously buying the cars from someone so that will be a capital outlay so let’s assume they paid £100k for the M3 on sale or return, or whatever. 170k tickets at a quid each would show £70k profit on the car alone.? I’m not by any means an accountant not understand p&l very well but I would have thought that the accounts would show some heft?
I know people win, I have a close friend who won and RS3 and £20k from one of them recently but I’ve no idea how much he put into it, if that even matters….
The cynic in me says that those who only buy a small number of tickets are allocated a low range ticket number and high rollers are at the other end and somehow they are getting Google to always land in the higher range ticket numbers but that shouldn’t matter. They still make the money on total ticket sales, not number of tickets bought by a single person…
Sigh….
I was following the entry lists and matching the numbers and everything seemed above board then the first number that was generated, from ~170,000 ticket sales wasn’t sold. There was a gap in the sequence where for example googles random number generator landed on 100,002 bit that number wasn’t sold. They did sel 100,001 and 100,103 so a redraw it was.
The number hit and a person named Luis has apparently won the car. On attempting to call luis though there was no response, straight to voicemail and not WhatsApp account to call them that way.
I can’t see how this is rigged when you factor in the random number generator and there are gaps in the ticket number sequences. I can only assume that someone starts an order then a ticket number is reserved in the database but then the buyer doesn’t complete the sale or increases / decreases the amount of tickets bought, therefor breaking the sequence. From the data there are multiple identical names within short ticket sequences so I know that one ticket is represented by a unique number but feels like a bit of a sham. But of course I didn’t win so I’m biased.
Additionally, and I know this doesn’t mean too much to prove a companies legitimacy but companies hous records for LLF Games ltd doesn’t show a great deal in terms of asset, cash in the bank, etc. how do they manage the profits? They are obviously buying the cars from someone so that will be a capital outlay so let’s assume they paid £100k for the M3 on sale or return, or whatever. 170k tickets at a quid each would show £70k profit on the car alone.? I’m not by any means an accountant not understand p&l very well but I would have thought that the accounts would show some heft?
I know people win, I have a close friend who won and RS3 and £20k from one of them recently but I’ve no idea how much he put into it, if that even matters….
The cynic in me says that those who only buy a small number of tickets are allocated a low range ticket number and high rollers are at the other end and somehow they are getting Google to always land in the higher range ticket numbers but that shouldn’t matter. They still make the money on total ticket sales, not number of tickets bought by a single person…
Sigh….
RallyeMike said:
You will be surprised how long 2nd class can take sometimes with further potential delays at the p.o box sorting office before they will even recieve them.
So it's definitely not guaranteed to be there
Royal Mails own website states "2-3 working days including Saturdays" so no reason at all it wont be there in time.So it's definitely not guaranteed to be there
RallyeMike said:
You will be surprised how long 2nd class can take sometimes with further potential delays at the p.o box sorting office before they will even recieve them.
So it's definitely not guaranteed to be there
I have been posting to rev comps 2nd class on the morning after new comps go live for the last 7 weeks. From Orkney to torquay, can't get much further in the uk postal system. Every single one has been processed except that week when they didn't seem to process anyone's. So it's definitely not guaranteed to be there
Would think its more to do with other companies not wanting to process postals and pretending they didn't receive in time or the card not being filled out exactly as the terms state.
I enter for every decent Porsche and would always take the car but I’m struggling with the GT3 RS on Rev Comps as I think I’d have to take the £150k. Looks like you can buy a similar or even lower mileage car from a dealer for less than that.
Nice problem to have though and I doubt it will be my problem even though I’ve bought maximum tickets for this one!
Nice problem to have though and I doubt it will be my problem even though I’ve bought maximum tickets for this one!
Yeah
Love a GT3 RS but that spec is mental, i had to go find an old brochure to make sure you could actually option those seats, and yes you can, must be hardly any with that seats and not clubsport!
Love a GT3 RS but that spec is mental, i had to go find an old brochure to make sure you could actually option those seats, and yes you can, must be hardly any with that seats and not clubsport!
G944S said:
I enter for every decent Porsche and would always take the car but I’m struggling with the GT3 RS on Rev Comps as I think I’d have to take the £150k. Looks like you can buy a similar or even lower mileage car from a dealer for less than that.
Nice problem to have though and I doubt it will be my problem even though I’ve bought maximum tickets for this one!
Nice problem to have though and I doubt it will be my problem even though I’ve bought maximum tickets for this one!
Davie_GLA said:
I'd like to add autotrader to the mix. Although they don't charge anything for entry i wonder if there's anyone who has won any of their comps?
I enter as it takes less than 5 clicks to do so but of course never win.
If we're going random... MrBeast has bought 26 Tesla's to represent his 26th birthday and is giving them all away. Just need to like/comment on his Insta post. I've checked and it's open to UK residents, although would be interesting if one of us won the Cybertruck as I believe they're not legal in this country.I enter as it takes less than 5 clicks to do so but of course never win.
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