£400M+ cost of cleanup after Afghanistan data leak

£400M+ cost of cleanup after Afghanistan data leak

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glazbagun

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg8zy78787o

Makes me feel better about any time I've screwed up. There's something about Data Protection that's asymetrically easy to mess up up massively.

JoshSm

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52 months

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Sounds a bit like they assumed absolute worst case regardless of cost/impact, then hid the whole thing to avoid anyone asking questions about any of it?


GiantEnemyCrab

7,817 posts

218 months

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I have given up putting any value in these large figures for 'government spending plans' as there is never enough detail to see if it is bks or not.

eg 400m seems very high - but what does it include? Over how many years? Direct or indirect costs?

Hardly top tier journalism.

GetCarter

30,183 posts

294 months

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Watch this for info from the inside (of the super injunction)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdc6MHlTOTQ

Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 15th July 14:25

272BHP

6,281 posts

251 months

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£400M?

This will eventually cost way, way more than that - multiplying that figure by 10 would be a better start point.

JoshSm

1,275 posts

52 months

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GiantEnemyCrab said:
I have given up putting any value in these large figures for 'government spending plans' as there is never enough detail to see if it is bks or not.

eg 400m seems very high - but what does it include? Over how many years? Direct or indirect costs?

Hardly top tier journalism.
Other reporting gives different sets of numbers.

Given the number of people involved the costs will inevitably be substantial, especially long term.

The secondary issue appears to be the very strong injunction that blocked this being discussed at all.

soad

33,948 posts

191 months

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272BHP said:
£400M?

This will eventually cost way, way more than that - multiplying that figure by 10 would be a better start point.
Bang on. yes

Condi

18,856 posts

186 months

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More Tory government smoke and mirrors.

I bet they're delighted they're not in power any more. The whole thing was a ticking timebomb. Not just this, but everything they had left.

RobB_

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203 months

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Condi said:
More Tory government smoke and mirrors.

I bet they're delighted they're not in power any more. The whole thing was a ticking timebomb. Not just this, but everything they had left.
Isn't this Government government? Not party political? Tories don't man all of the the MoD and FO for example.

Condi

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RobB_ said:
Isn't this Government government? Not party political? Tories don't man all of the the MoD and FO for example.
Not sure what you mean Government government?

Watch the interview in the Youtube video and it's reasonably clear the reason they didn't want it to come out was largely because the Government of the time (Sunak's government) was trying to look tough on immigration and tough on asylum seekers. Revealing that 18,000 people, plus their families, were being secretly flown here because someone lost a USB stick does rather undermine that message. Not ideal, months ahead of an election!

z4RRSchris

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194 months

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"Mr Healey proposed a new Afghan resettlement scheme, merging the two existing schemes to create the Afghan Resettlement Programme (ARP). It would aim to evacuate around 36,000 people, 28,500 of whom would be affected by the data leak, at a cost of up to £7.23bn."

7 billion quid.

4.7AMV8

2,317 posts

181 months

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z4RRSchris said:
"Mr Healey proposed a new Afghan resettlement scheme, merging the two existing schemes to create the Afghan Resettlement Programme (ARP). It would aim to evacuate around 36,000 people, 28,500 of whom would be affected by the data leak, at a cost of up to £7.23bn."

7 billion quid.
7 Billion to the Labour Government is nothing really. It pays for 3 bat tunnels and 100m of railway line on the HS2 project!

Condi

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4.7AMV8 said:
7 Billion to the Labour Government is nothing really. It pays for 3 bat tunnels and 100m of railway line on the HS2 project!
Except it was all done under the last Tory government. Nothing to do with Labour.

Bit like the bat tunnels and HS2. Also Tory projects.

Have you got a very short memory, or just prefer to re-write history?

z4RRSchris

11,960 posts

194 months

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labour tory who cares which government they are all useless and fantastic at spending other peoples money

RobB_

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203 months

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Condi said:
Not sure what you mean Government government?

Watch the interview in the Youtube video and it's reasonably clear the reason they didn't want it to come out was largely because the Government of the time (Sunak's government) was trying to look tough on immigration and tough on asylum seekers. Revealing that 18,000 people, plus their families, were being secretly flown here because someone lost a USB stick does rather undermine that message. Not ideal, months ahead of an election!
Why would a red tie have made any difference to the policies, systems and manning of the civil service? It would have been the same result - you don't announce to the world that a secret list that an oppressive government would want has leaked out.

4.7AMV8

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181 months

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Condi said:
4.7AMV8 said:
7 Billion to the Labour Government is nothing really. It pays for 3 bat tunnels and 100m of railway line on the HS2 project!
Except it was all done under the last Tory government. Nothing to do with Labour.

Bit like the bat tunnels and HS2. Also Tory projects.

Have you got a very short memory, or just prefer to re-write history?
Your memory is even shorter…bat tunnels, announced Nov 24….well into the Labour tenure.
But I will accept I tarred Labour with Tory brush….but now Labour are in power they can make amends instead of blaming their decisions on “last 12 years of Tory rule”.

mikebradford

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160 months

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Is someone going to ask a moderator to amend the thread title? As 400m won't cover the solicitors cost for the likely £1bn + that's going to be claimed in compensation.

Never mind the cost of moving housing and looking after these people.

Accidents happen, but this makes Ratners speech on his cr@p jewellery seem like a cheap mistake.

bitchstewie

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225 months

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Condi said:
More Tory government smoke and mirrors.

I bet they're delighted they're not in power any more. The whole thing was a ticking timebomb. Not just this, but everything they had left.
I think they probably did the right thing here to be honest.

hidetheelephants

30,307 posts

208 months

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The phrase "top secret Excel spreadsheet" and email featuring together is more or less guaranteed to be a disaster. Do MoD document control rules not apply to computer files?

272BHP

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251 months

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Undoubtedly the numbers will be much higher than predicted and also many multiples of our highest military deployment count at any one time. No doubt lawyers will now work hard to get many more over here so they can then make individual compensation claims for every one.

We were there for 20 years. It became clear long before the end that they had no real will to defend their country, they just wanted the influx of money to continue. When it was decided that enough was enough they folded to the taliban in a few days despite vastly outnumbering them and having far better equipment and training - we were mugged.

This has to be the worst mistake a UK government has ever made - this will become increasingly apparent in the years to come.