Is windows 8 really this crap??

[98elise]

Bought a new laptop today. Just trying to do the basics, and;

1. The password has already needed resetting, and now I can't turn it off. We've set it to not need a password, yet it keeps asking for one.

2. It cannot download or install any apps. They all sit at pending or downloading but never actually install.

3. This is a brand new PC with nothing on it, and things are still slow. Its got a touch screen an I'm constantly pressing the same button over and over waiting for something to happen.

4. The general user experience is pants. Its like a veneer of a smiple UI, over the same old crap.

Having now spent the best part of 5 hours trying to get it to do anything.....I think its going back tomorrow.

[Crafty_]

I'd say its the laptop. What is it ?

I've got win8 on this machine and have no problems at all.

[mikef]

This sounds wrong. I bought a touchscreen ultrabook this week with Win 8 and it's fantastic; much better than on a desktop with touchscreen. In this form factor (convertible laptop/tablet) Win 8 makes total sense, it's lightning fast and works great. What did you buy?

[98elise]

Its an Asus touch screen laptop.

Its fking useless I don't want to log in each time, and I'd like to install a few things. Its even managed to be slow out of the box!!!

It suddenly burst into life and downloaded a couple of things a few minutes ago, them it just went back to doing nothing. Utter st. Its going back tomorrow.

[Ozone]

It could be downloading a load of windows updates or antivirus updates causing it to slow down.

[Pferdestarke]

I'd send it back before you regret it.

[Puggit]

Good luck trying to switch off a Win8 computer

[Guffy]

I bought a new laptop a couple of weeks ago, I now hate Windows 8 with a passion, it constantly pisses me off.

[m3jappa]

I got a new laptop the other day for work stuff, you know sending emails, emails with picture attachments and document attachments, and also to store all my work pictures etc.

It's fking st, I nearly put a hammer through the bd.

Everything is a fking app, luckily I can use the toshiba 'app' and it behaves more normally which is like normal windows. Of course though when I log into my email to send an attachment like i normally would it crashes or refuses to send, so I have to use the stty app to send an attachment taking me through a plethora of st to find what I need.

Oh and it doesn't come with Microsoft word, wtf? So now I can't send a fking quote over and I can't read stuff people are sending. I'm going to have to take it to my local computer shop to sort this.

The machine I got has a large hard drive and that's about all that's any good to me

I'm glad you made this thread because I was about to

[98elise]

Finally worked out how to turn off the need for the password.

It was entirely my fault. I thought just pressing the option for not needing to use password would be it. Little did I know you actually need to find the command prompt, start some utility, them untick the option that says everyone needs to use a password.

I've kind of found a way to fix the download problem, I again need to use the command prompt, but then I get an permissions problem. So the next thing is to start it in safe mode then try again....which might work.....

.....its fresh out of the box for fks sake. All I've tried to do is switch it on, and down load the google seach app. Thats it. Nothing more nothing less.

Microsoft are dead in the water. I own android phones and tablets, and an ipad. They are streets ahead in UI. I gave my 65yo mother a nexus for christmas, and she's coping with it just fine. Why can't a windows device just fking work.

We now own 4 windows laptops in this family, end every one is st. This is the first one thats been st from the word go!!!!

Edited by 98elise on Saturday 15th June 22:51

[98elise]

Ozone said:

It could be downloading a load of windows updates or antivirus updates causing it to slow down.

Nope that was the first hour of updates and various set up procedures. Its been on for over 6 hours now, and its still doing nothing.

Utter utter utter st.

[Crafty_]

m3jappa said:

I got a new laptop the other day for work stuff, you know sending emails, emails with picture attachments and document attachments, and also to store all my work pictures etc.

It's fking st, I nearly put a hammer through the bd.

Everything is a fking app, luckily I can use the toshiba 'app' and it behaves more normally which is like normal windows. Of course though when I log into my email to send an attachment like i normally would it crashes or refuses to send, so I have to use the stty app to send an attachment taking me through a plethora of st to find what I need.

Oh and it doesn't come with Microsoft word, wtf? So now I can't send a fking quote over and I can't read stuff people are sending. I'm going to have to take it to my local computer shop to sort this.

The machine I got has a large hard drive and that's about all that's any good to me

I'm glad you made this thread because I was about to

Word never comes with windows, if you've got it with machines before thats something that the seller or manufacturer threw in.

Stop using the metro UI thing and install this: http://www.classicshell.net/ that lets you boot directly to the desktop, like windows XP, 7 etc does, it also puts the start menu back and it will all be rather familiar

[mikef]

98elise said:

I don't want to log in each time.

You set that up just as in Windows 7 - WinKey+R then enter "control userpasswords2". Is that working? Asus kit is usually very good, can't think why it would be slow if it's working as it should.

[jagracer]

Why does it need apps, can you not do things from IE, Chrome or whatever browser you use?

[Crafty_]

jagracer said:

Why does it need apps, can you not do things from IE, Chrome or whatever browser you use?

yep, you just need to click desktop. But if you use one of the add-ons like the one I posted above or Start8 you don't even need to do that.

Win8 is just like Win7 with a phone/tablet UI stuck in the front. Once you get round that (by always booting straight to desktop) and changing a few default programs (for PDF and pictures) its not really any different to win7.

[98elise]

jagracer said:

Why does it need apps, can you not do things from IE, Chrome or whatever browser you use?

It has a "store" If you search for google in ie it redirects you to store to install the google search app. Pressing the install button does little to start with. Eventually it will put it in a queue to download it, but it actually does nothing. It alternates between pending, and downloading, but the status bar never moves.

If there is another way to get google as the home page, or chrome installed let me know.

[rossmc88]

all laptops really need an SSD nowdays or you will be disappointed

standard 5400rpm laptop drives are a performance nightmare

[andoverben]

I had to laugh, I have a new Win 8 Toshiba Ultrabook/tablet as a replacement for my ageing Dell. Literally picked up last night and I was just playing with it now.

While the UI is certainly pretty I was starting to get quite annoyed the way the Windows experience keeps trying to take everything over. I tried to log into Skype and it won't let me unless I log in with my Microsoft ID (everything else I have is Android and I don't want a Microsoft ID) I just want to log into skype with the same Skype ID I have had for the last 5 Years.

I also seem to have about 6 things open with no way of being able to close them.

I was just sat here saying to Mrs Andoverben 'I did think this was quite cool but now it is really starting to get on my nerves' I go onto Pistonheads for a bit of light relief and the 4th Topic down is why is Win 8 Crap?

[mikef]

andoverben said:

I also seem to have about 6 things open with no way of being able to close

Metro apps? Swipe or drag from the top of screen to the bottom. I wouldn't have guessed that, but saw a MS employee do it in a demo...

[14-7]

rossmc88 said:

all laptops really need an SSD nowdays or you will be disappointed

standard 5400rpm laptop drives are a performance nightmare

Totally agree with this.

My one year old Toshiba laptop has nearly been smashed so many times due to slow performance but when I checked the task manager the disk was nearly always running at 100%. Upgraded to an SSD and the thing absolutely flies along now and will outperform my desktop when it comes to Photoshop and rendering 3-4GB video files in Adobe After Effects.

Just need to buy a new desktop now to beat the laptop!