Police run over calf - reasonable?

Police run over calf - reasonable?

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Somewhatfoolish

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4,664 posts

194 months

Saturday 15th June
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Video doing the rounds of police running over a calf, deliberately: https://x.com/ub1ub2/status/1801939257054859521

I appreciate that cows are by far the most dangerous animal in the UK and one running around a street isn't ideal. But even so this seems a bit excessive. Although it's easy to say this in hindsight...

DaveH23

3,296 posts

178 months

Saturday 15th June
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If you asked a 4 year old how to contain the situation, they could have come up with what happened.

The police though, Totally unnecessary. Even a bullet to the head would have been more humane than what they have done.

durbster

10,793 posts

230 months

Saturday 15th June
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What an awful video. Unless the cow was armed, it looks totally unnecessary.

Are these people who have never been outside London and don't know what a cow is or what?

Mammasaid

4,349 posts

105 months

Saturday 15th June
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Somewhatfoolish said:
I appreciate that cows are by far the most dangerous animal in the UK
WTAF???

More killed by dogs than cows, and a 6 month calf isn't the same as a field of cows with calves at foot.



Silvanus

6,124 posts

31 months

Saturday 15th June
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Completely unnecessary. Even someone remotely competent could have dealt with that without needing to run it over twice.

Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

4,664 posts

194 months

Saturday 15th June
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Mammasaid said:
WTAF???

More killed by dogs than cows, and a 6 month calf isn't the same as a field of cows with calves at foot.
Are you sure? That's very surprising. I'd far rather be with 20 random dogs than 20 random cattle.

But I agree that one calf doesn't seem to justify this. I was trying to be balanced in the OP but may have overdone it...

thisnameistaken

122 posts

36 months

Saturday 15th June
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wtf!?

bitchstewie

55,464 posts

218 months

Saturday 15th June
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Statement from Surrey Police.


cuprabob

15,770 posts

222 months

Saturday 15th June
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Surely they could have got a vet with a tranquilliser gun to take of it.

Evanivitch

22,159 posts

130 months

Saturday 15th June
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DaveH23 said:
If you asked a 4 year old how to contain the situation, they could have come up with what happened.

The police though, Totally unnecessary. Even a bullet to the head would have been more humane than what they have done.
Well clearly shooting an uncontained animal in a residential area is challenging and from the report they didn't kill it or mortally wound it.

Greendubber

13,880 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th June
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cuprabob said:
Surely they could have got a vet with a tranquilliser gun to take of it.
Devils advocate - How many of them are available at short notice and were able to get to the scene? Do we know that no efforts were made to track one down?

We've tried previously when animals have been running in the road and never been able to get one. Fortunately we managed to force them into an area and managed to get them contained.

Horrible video, I love cows but I'd like to think they'd tried and exhausted the other options before resorting to running it over. Hopefully it fully recovers swiftly.

Forester1965

2,947 posts

11 months

Saturday 15th June
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It was only a baba. Utter tossers doing what they did. I hope the officer involved is prosecuted.

grumbledoak

31,874 posts

241 months

Saturday 15th June
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What did they think it was going to do? It was a cow, wandering about. Not Godzilla on a rampage.

TwigtheWonderkid

44,773 posts

158 months

Saturday 15th June
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durbster said:
What an awful video. Unless the cow was armed, it looks totally unnecessary.

Are these people who have never been outside London and don't know what a cow is or what?
I'm from London, and wouldn't have a clue how to deal with a runaway cow. It's in a built up area, so, whilst knowing nothing about cows, would imagine it could be quite a dangerous situation. How would a human fare being run into by a frightened and panicking cow? The actual job of the police is protection of the public, not animal welfare.

Maybe questions need to be asked of the owner of the cow. How was it allowed to get free?

I'm sure if, 10 minutes later, the cow ran into someone and killed them, people would be saying "why didn't they run it over with a car when they had a chance, it's only a bloody cow?"


Edited by TwigtheWonderkid on Saturday 15th June 16:28

Greendubber

13,880 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th June
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
durbster said:
What an awful video. Unless the cow was armed, it looks totally unnecessary.

Are these people who have never been outside London and don't know what a cow is or what?
I'm from London, and wouldn't have a clue how to deal with a runaway cow. It's in a built up area, so, whilst knowing nothing about cows, would imagine it could be quite a dangerous situation. How would a human fare being run into by a frightened and panicking cow? The actual job of the police is protection of the public, not animal welfare.

Maybe questions need to be asked of the owner of the cow. How was it allowed to get free?
Exactly. It had already apparently knocked a lady over and the press release mentions it has been running at people, damaging cars etc so quite a high risk of someone being injured.

Imagine if they didn't, the perpetually outraged would be moaning about a lack of action I reckon.

The cow will recover and hopefully not do it's Houdini act again.

768

15,260 posts

104 months

Saturday 15th June
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Absolutely mental.

That the considered defence in the cold light of day is that they spent hours failing in other ways first is pretty farcical.

aka_kerrly

12,490 posts

218 months

Saturday 15th June
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Forester1965 said:
It was only a baba. Utter tossers doing what they did. I hope the officer involved is prosecuted.
That's completely over the top. This strikes me as a situation the Police could not come out looking good in, if they'd not bothered turning up and the cow continued running riot damaging property people would be complaining. The police turn up and use a method to stop the animal without killing it and people complain. Police show up and put a bullet in it's head , people complain.

No doubt if you'd been there you'd have a handy bit of rope and lassoed it before slinging it over your back and returning it to a field;)

popeyewhite

21,508 posts

128 months

Saturday 15th June
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It's a small calf. Call someone with suitable transport, surround the animal and get it in the transport.

Pica-Pica

14,534 posts

92 months

Saturday 15th June
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It was not ‘run’ over. Although a calf, it was still a sizeable beast. It was knocked down to contain it. All the other nonsense about herding it or calling a vet, is just that, nonsense. When cattle run amok, they can easily trample people to death.

Edited by Pica-Pica on Saturday 15th June 16:52

martinbiz

3,383 posts

153 months

Saturday 15th June
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Forester1965 said:
It was only a baba. Utter tossers doing what they did. I hope the officer involved is prosecuted.
Yes a 300kg baba that can do a lot of damage to persons/property.We don't tknow the full back story to this and it was probably the chosen option as a last resort to deal with situation as quickly as possible.Your post is like something you'd expect from a 10 year old, grow up!