Daily driver Panamera - winter tyres worth it for U.K. ?

[S8QUATTRO]

90% of the time it’s driven on the M62 commute. Are winter tyres worth it?

Wheels and tyres sets and not mega bucks on eBay for a used set. Just wondering if anyone runs winters on theirs?

[braddo]

Or use 4-season tyres all year round?

[Cheib]

I use WInters on my Cayenne as I drive out to ski resorts a couple of times a year. I am no driving god but they give better stopping distances in the wet according to the stats.

The other thing is Porsche summer tyres seem to be a fairly hard compound as when it is cold at parking speeds you get a bit of judder on full lock. People call it the Ackerman effect but it disappears as soon as I put the Winters on so it is not Ackerman. I remember having a loan Panny a few winters ago and was shocked when it first happened.

[fflump]

Cheib said:

I use WInters on my Cayenne as I drive out to ski resorts a couple of times a year. I am no driving god but they give better stopping distances in the wet according to the stats.

The other thing is Porsche summer tyres seem to be a fairly hard compound as when it is cold at parking speeds you get a bit of judder on full lock. People call it the Ackerman effect but it disappears as soon as I put the Winters on so it is not Ackerman. I remember having a loan Panny a few winters ago and was shocked when it first happened.

I think that it is the Ackerman geometry that is set up to avoid tyres skipping/juddering works fine on full lock in the summer but when cold the low profile tyres and hardness of the summer tyre compound can make the car judder at full lock i.e. the Ackerman geometry can't quite cope with that situation.

[S8QUATTRO]

Just double checked mine - all season Pirelli on the rear so will stick with them for now

Hopefully good enough for the UK Winter

[Higgs boson]

I'm 54 degrees North, and as soon as the frosts start, the 18" winters go on - especially as I'm in a rural location.

[NickyF]

Pilot Sport 4S work fine in any temperature except when it gets really cold, sub zero. Obviously snow isn’t great either. Snow and ice are pretty rare round my way so I never bother with winter tyres.

[brisel]

I’ve just bought a set of second hand alloys & fitted winter tyres, though not N rated. All season/cross climate tyres would be a good compromise.

Watch a few tyre tests of summer tyres vs winters and the difference is stark. Below 7 degrees C, winters come into their own. The tread pattern also handles rain water better too. It’s not just about snow & ice.

Why have a nice car and neglect the 4 small patches of rubber that keep you out of the hedge or back of the car in front that managed to stop sooner than you?

Edited by brisel on Saturday 23 November 22:02

[BertBert]

Winters seem to work quite well all year round!

[MrC986]

There's some manufacturer comments that a winter tyre will stop up to 10m shorter than a summer tyre below 7C. As others have said, all season tyres are a good compromise but of course it depends how old the tyres are and how much tread they have on them as well. If you're buying a second set I'd also drop down a rim size which helps with availability/cost as well.

[XMA Simon]

BertBert said:

Winters seem to work quite well all year round!

Heratic 😲

[Billy_Whizzzz]

WiI use new breed of all seasons - eg Crossclimates - in winter that are best of both worlds - great on 11 degree wet and greasy roads as well as adequate enough in occasional snow etc.

[bosshog]

Billy_Whizzzz said:

WiI use new breed of all seasons - eg Crossclimates - in winter that are best of both worlds - great on 11 degree wet and greasy roads as well as adequate enough in occasional snow etc.

Crossclimates are an excellent tyre - they are actually also rated as a snow tyre so you take them up the mountain in the winter in France without getting any hassle of the local Gendarmerie.

I’ve not have them on a sports car but for daily driving they are a no brainer imo.

[scrounger73]

S8QUATTRO said:

Just double checked mine - all season Pirelli on the rear so will stick with them for now

Hopefully good enough for the UK Winter

Wait! If you've got all seasons on the rear what have you got on the fronts? Hopefully not summers. You shouldn't mix types of tyres as it messes with the balance and handling of the car especially under braking.