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Derek Smith

45,655 posts

248 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Ledaig said:
Just finished this - bloody excellent.

without trawling the whole thread, was it ever made available in pdf?

I would like my Dad to read this (ex-copper) but a Kindle etc is too much for him (well it's different isn't it? wink ).
YHM.

And thanks for the very nice words.

Where did your father police?

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Must get My missus to get this on Kindle. I was at Eynsham in 1975 as well-course 4/75 (April - June with the fancy pass out parade on the lawn rather than the driveway). I Remember loonie PTI's Awcock and Taylor.

Another recommended read on Policing around that time is 'Coppers' by Mike Seabrook - published 1987 but still a great read - still a few copies knocking about on Amazon

Edited by Bigends on Monday 26th August 21:33

Derek Smith

45,655 posts

248 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Bigends said:
Must get My missus to get this on Kindle. I was at Eynsham in 1975 as well-course 4/75 (April - June with the fancy pass out parade on the lawn rather than the driveway). I Remember loonie PTI's Awcock and Taylor.

Another recommended read on Policing around that time is 'Coppers' by Mike Seabrook - published 1987 but still a great read - still a few copies knocking about on Amazon
Dave Awcock wasn't, perhaps, the most effective police officer in the world but I went on a demo with him once and the demonstrators were really quite nasty. Dave came up behind the line and it suddenly went all quiet.

Taylor was completely off the wall. When I started sneezing one time he demanded to know if I had hay fever. I just nodded, I couldn't speak. The next lesson he had us all outside doing press-ups in the grass.

Can't say I enjoyed my time at Eynsham, even the frantic evenings when we played skittles at the local pub. Missed my wife and kids.

oobster

7,090 posts

211 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Derek, send me an email through my profile too if you don't mind, I would like to purchase a copy of your book in pdf format.

Always enjoy reading your posts on here, very entertaining and interesting.

Bigends

5,418 posts

128 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Derek Smith said:
Bigends said:
Must get My missus to get this on Kindle. I was at Eynsham in 1975 as well-course 4/75 (April - June with the fancy pass out parade on the lawn rather than the driveway). I Remember loonie PTI's Awcock and Taylor.

Another recommended read on Policing around that time is 'Coppers' by Mike Seabrook - published 1987 but still a great read - still a few copies knocking about on Amazon
Dave Awcock wasn't, perhaps, the most effective police officer in the world but I went on a demo with him once and the demonstrators were really quite nasty. Dave came up behind the line and it suddenly went all quiet.

Taylor was completely off the wall. When I started sneezing one time he demanded to know if I had hay fever. I just nodded, I couldn't speak. The next lesson he had us all outside doing press-ups in the grass. Think we had two Drill Pigs - Jim Elliot from Herts and another whos name escapes me from Beds




Can't say I enjoyed my time at Eynsham, even the frantic evenings when we played skittles at the local pub. Missed my wife and kids.
Likewise, didnt really enjoy the place much - I 'd spent two years as a Cadet so the discipline and the like wasnt a problem -just the tone of the place. Always remember the smell of the hot pies in the bar The busloads of nurses into the college for the mid and end course discos helped ease things a bit though! Remember TAYLOR bking someone in the gym about the state of his kit. When he found out he was an ex Cadet he exploded and demanded to know if there were any other ex-Cadets in the class-needless to say -no hands went up!


Edited by Bigends on Monday 26th August 22:04

Ledaig

1,696 posts

262 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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Derek Smith said:
YHM.

And thanks for the very nice words.

Where did your father police?
YHM Derek,

(and answers)

Cheers,
Steve

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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oobster said:
Derek, send me an email through my profile too if you don't mind, I would like to purchase a copy of your book in pdf format.

Always enjoy reading your posts on here, very entertaining and interesting.
And me please.... in need of something good to read.

streaky

19,311 posts

249 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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I had the great privilege of reading 1i]Derek[/i]'s book prior to publication, and the honour and dread of commenting upon it.

For those who like the supernatural, I commend Ben Aaranowich's PC Peter Grant / 'The Folly' series, starting with Rivers of London. They're about a tiny unit in the Mets that investigates and (tries to) police crime involving 'the little people'. There are laughs (but not as many as in Derek's book), and he would chuckle at the statement that: "... the Met has a world-famous driving school at Hendon where a series of integrated advanced driving courses is designed to train officers to the point where they can do a ton down a city street and keep the body count in single figures." *

Streaky

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Derek Smith

45,655 posts

248 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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streaky said:
I had the great privilege of reading Derek's book prior to publication, and the honour and dread of commenting upon it.

For those who like the supernatural, I commend Ben Aaranowich's PC Peter Grant / 'The Folly' series, starting with Rivers of London. They're about a tiny unit in the Mets that investigates and (tries to) police crime involving 'the little people'. There are laughs (but not as many as in Derek's book), and he would chuckle at the statement that: "... the Met has a world-famous driving school at Hendon where a series of integrated advanced driving courses is designed to train officers to the point where they can do a ton down a city street and keep the body count in single figures." *

Streaky

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I'd like to endorse that. Aaranowich's Folly series are a terrific read, although I have to say, like you, that thee are more laughs in my book. Rivers of London is an excellent start to the series. It is especially good if you know your way around London. It is very readable although, of course, you have to suspend belief.

SiH

1,824 posts

247 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Derek Smith said:
streaky said:
I had the great privilege of reading Derek's book prior to publication, and the honour and dread of commenting upon it.

For those who like the supernatural, I commend Ben Aaranowich's PC Peter Grant / 'The Folly' series, starting with Rivers of London. They're about a tiny unit in the Mets that investigates and (tries to) police crime involving 'the little people'. There are laughs (but not as many as in Derek's book), and he would chuckle at the statement that: "... the Met has a world-famous driving school at Hendon where a series of integrated advanced driving courses is designed to train officers to the point where they can do a ton down a city street and keep the body count in single figures." *

Streaky

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I'd like to endorse that. Aaranowich's Folly series are a terrific read, although I have to say, like you, that thee are more laughs in my book. Rivers of London is an excellent start to the series. It is especially good if you know your way around London. It is very readable although, of course, you have to suspend belief.
I have to agree that the Aaronovich books are a great read; I saw them described as 'what would happen if Harry Potter got a warrant card' but to my mind that sells them short. They're a great read.
I'll definitely look out Derek's book, it sounds like it's absolutely worth a read! smile

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

228 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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K50 DEL said:
oobster said:
Derek, send me an email through my profile too if you don't mind, I would like to purchase a copy of your book in pdf format.

Always enjoy reading your posts on here, very entertaining and interesting.
And me please.... in need of something good to read.
Enjoyed that very much.... the end came too soon, a follow up is needed I think.

Enjoyed the fact that for all your footnotes, a few minutes with google reveals a great deal about the participants in a number of the episodes descibed. A very cleverly worded book I feel.

On that note, still a few grammatical errors contained within, not sure if they matter to you, they don't really detract from the reading.

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Ordered today on Kindle - part of my new must read list smile

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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I always knew that Derek Smith was a nom-de-guerre.

streaky

19,311 posts

249 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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GC8 said:
I always knew that Derek Smith was a nom-de-guerre.
G Ulf Dummer is a nom de guerre. Derek Smith is a nom de plume ... as is Harvey Yates.

Streaky

Derek Smith

45,655 posts

248 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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streaky said:
G Ulf Dummer is a nom de guerre. Derek Smith is a nom de plume ... as is Harvey Yates.

Streaky
I like puns and other plays on words. So when looking for a name other than my real one I came up with one based on my books on the Rover V8 engine: Rover V8 = Harvey Yates.

At the time I thought it was quite good, almost clever. But that soon wore off.

I wrote three articles for women's mags under the name of Edna Cockshott-Smythe. Or rather I submitted loads of articles to women's magazines and got just three published. It was changed to Co'shaw-Smythe. I was tempted to change my own name to that. It seemed cool.

Edited by Derek Smith on Saturday 31st August 21:24

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Harvey Yates is indeed a nom de plume, but I maintain that Derek Smith is a nom de guerre.

The literal translation is war name and nom de guerre's definition in the OED is as follows:

An assumed name under which a person engages in combat or some other activity or enterprise.

Quite fitting, I think.

9xxNick

928 posts

214 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Ha - just read the first chapter on Kindle. It's looking like it'll be a great read.

gamefreaks

1,963 posts

187 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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Bought this last night. Definitely well worth a read.

Big Pants

505 posts

141 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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Another copy downloaded to my Kindle Fire and ready for the train to London midweek. After I've watched the very final episode of The Wire, that is.

Looking forward to both, if not the actual working day in London.

md.

463 posts

184 months

Sunday 1st September 2013
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Didn't realise you could get kindle on Google Play store (doh!). Just purchased this after reading the sample and also enjoying, like a lot of other PistonHeads, Derek Smiths contributions to the forum. Looking forward to reading it!