Jimmy Saville

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streaky

19,311 posts

249 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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The first step has been taken ... his monumental gravestone has been removed overnight.

How long before they dig him up?

Streaky

mr2aw11

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223 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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daz3210 said:
I'm pretty perturbed by what I have herd today.

Esther Rantzen has been on Radio today saying she knew of the abuse years ago. If that is the case, why as a champion of childline has she been mute on the matter?
If that wasn't the interviewer's very next question, he wasn't doing his job properly...

y2blade

56,101 posts

215 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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streaky said:
The first step has been taken ... his monumental gravestone has been removed overnight.

How long before they dig him up?

Streaky
less than a week.
wink

y2blade

56,101 posts

215 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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daz3210 said:
y2blade said:
daz3210 said:
I'm pretty perturbed by what I have herd today.

Esther Rantzen has been on Radio today saying she knew of the abuse years ago. If that is the case, why as a champion of childline has she been mute on the matter?
Because she's a **** perhaps?
Part time rug muncher has more than four letters. And I did hear a rumour she was such at one time.
Welcome to the 21st century.
You do know it is acceptable to be a Homosexual these days don't you?


daz3210

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5,000 posts

240 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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y2blade said:
Welcome to the 21st century.
You do know it is acceptable to be a Homosexual these days don't you?
Certainly.

And I respect the rights of others to be so, all I ask is that it is not forced upon me.



miniman

24,945 posts

262 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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undertaker said:
Mr Morphet, from Joseph A Hey and Son, said the family of Sir Jimmy had made the decision because of "the impact the stone remaining there could have on the dignity and sanctity of the cemetery"
The family didn't seem to care too much about the impact the hideous monstrosity had on the dignity of the cemetery when they had the damn thing installed, did they?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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You do seem to have just a little bit of a thing about gay people, Daz. No one is forcing anything on you.

daz3210

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Breadvan72 said:
You do seem to have just a little bit of a thing about gay people, Daz. No one is forcing anything on you.
Do you think so?

And no, no-one on PH is forcing anything upon me, that is how I like it.

I have had work colleagues in the past who have been gay, I have many good (and some fairly close) friends who are openly gay. But, we don't really discuss it. They are just friends, and what way of life they chose outside the direct relationship with myself is their concern. I am aware of their 'persuasion' (sorry if that sounds prejudiced, honestly its not meant to be), but that is the end of it. If on the other hand they were constantly saying, come on try it, you may like it - that is forcing it upon me.


silverfoxcc

7,689 posts

145 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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thing that really pisses me of about all this is the likes of
Sandi Toksvig,Liz Kershaw and Vanessa Feltz, have all claimed they have been groped,but refuse to name names.
To me this is just continuing the 'claims' that everyone knew about JS but refused to say at the same.
These three are just giving licence for this to carry on and other be abused in future, possibly on of their children if they really think this through
Either put up or STFU

daz3210

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240 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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I have to also wonder, it was ITV that aired the documentary, presumably they commissioned it too.

Do they have anything to gain by bringing down the BBC?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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This won't bring down the BBC. Pointing the finger at a rival is no doubt enjoyable, but they would be unlikely to run the prog purely on that basis.

My wife is an ITV producer, and she recalls that Green Room Gossip on this subject was pretty widespread in the 80s and 90s. That, of course, does not make it true.

otolith

56,080 posts

204 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Sounds as if a lot of people knew or suspected and did nothing.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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What could people do, on the basis of suspicion alone, if victims did not come forward (for very understandable reasons), or if those few who did were not believed by police? I have no idea whether or not Savile was an abuser, but it is easy to see how, if he was, he could get away with.

daz3210

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240 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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I assume 'The Green Room' is like a lounge where folks wait to be called to the studio?

What I find strange is that if there was gossip at all, how did the tabloids (at least) not get hold of it? Although I do believe that Sir Jimmy did at one point take out a case against the Sun.

Let's face it, newspapers have a history of not letting untruths get in the way of what they think is a good story.

daz3210

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Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Breadvan72 said:
So, in a round about way, is that suggesting that the tabloids were also frightened about the repercussions simply because no-one was prepared to testify?

otolith

56,080 posts

204 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Perhaps too many people thought it would not be in their interests to blow the whistle on a national treasure?

daz3210

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otolith said:
Perhaps too many people thought it would not be in their interests to blow the whistle on a national treasure?
Why should his status make him untouchable?

Then again we have an ex-PM who lots of people think should be charged with war crimes...

Jasandjules

69,884 posts

229 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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daz3210 said:
Then again we have an ex-PM who lots of people think should be charged with war crimes...
Well I think that an Ex-PM should be charged with war crimes.

But as to Saville, you have to consider the question of who would most people believe? One young girl or a rich and famous charity fundraising celeb?

otolith

56,080 posts

204 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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daz3210 said:
Why should his status make him untouchable?
Who knows what goes through the mind of a tabloid editor who is only interested in selling papers?
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