Police and Crime Commissioner absolute farce.
Discussion
So, we've seen the multi million pound advertising campaign including it's hard hitting and emotive visual content. Check.
We received our Postal Poll Cards. Check.
We've been on the website and got lost. Check
We've seen the Norfolk Police Authority video featuring some pot bellied bumpkin trying to emulate Dizzee Rascal. Check
We've been told by Victor how to vote. Check
We've even been told in Welsh. Check
The only thing we have no idea at all on is who we are actually voting for!
As someone who pays a s
t load of money each year into the pot from which this farce is being funded can I say what a waste of time effort and my hard earned pounds. I'm getting clobbered for tax at the moment, I don't mind if I felt we were all pulling together to try and get us back on an even keel or that this was going to make any impact on crime reduction a subject close to all our hearts. Having some toothless committee loving failed councilor / politician or would be captain of industry added to the mix of hands steering the ship will do no good at all.
If you want to sort out crime get rid of the old wood controlling the force who can't even work out how to send a text and bring in new blood who can embrace technology, save on shoe leather, man power and get some serious detection work done using the phenominal tools that are out there. Then build on the public support which comes from seeing results and maintain that by having a government which stops wasting money criminalising and alienating vast swathes of the population.
Indulge yourself in This from the Norfolk Constbulary and see how seriously you think they are taking the multi million pound project.
The scrotes must be stting themselves
Henry
We received our Postal Poll Cards. Check.
We've been on the website and got lost. Check
We've seen the Norfolk Police Authority video featuring some pot bellied bumpkin trying to emulate Dizzee Rascal. Check
We've been told by Victor how to vote. Check
We've even been told in Welsh. Check
The only thing we have no idea at all on is who we are actually voting for!
As someone who pays a s
t load of money each year into the pot from which this farce is being funded can I say what a waste of time effort and my hard earned pounds. I'm getting clobbered for tax at the moment, I don't mind if I felt we were all pulling together to try and get us back on an even keel or that this was going to make any impact on crime reduction a subject close to all our hearts. Having some toothless committee loving failed councilor / politician or would be captain of industry added to the mix of hands steering the ship will do no good at all.If you want to sort out crime get rid of the old wood controlling the force who can't even work out how to send a text and bring in new blood who can embrace technology, save on shoe leather, man power and get some serious detection work done using the phenominal tools that are out there. Then build on the public support which comes from seeing results and maintain that by having a government which stops wasting money criminalising and alienating vast swathes of the population.
Indulge yourself in This from the Norfolk Constbulary and see how seriously you think they are taking the multi million pound project.
The scrotes must be s
tting themselvesHenry
If it's crime reduction that you define as equalling results then have a look at crime data (recorded and the British Crime Survey) since the mid 90s. Pretty much been reduced every year since its peak.
The PCC is rubbish though, and I doubt it'll have any real impact for reason I've outlined in the other PCC topic.
The PCC is rubbish though, and I doubt it'll have any real impact for reason I've outlined in the other PCC topic.
Same here, plenty of noise about the voting process, how unusual it is, what it could mean etc, but I have no idea who is in the running, and what their ideas would be.
I'm not sure if it is down to the media getting so close to the story they haven't noticed that no one else has been following, or because we are used to political parties with clear themes and party political broadcasts to inform people of the choices, compared with nothing as applicable for the commissioner role.
I'd probably vote for anyone with the surname Gordon.
I'm not sure if it is down to the media getting so close to the story they haven't noticed that no one else has been following, or because we are used to political parties with clear themes and party political broadcasts to inform people of the choices, compared with nothing as applicable for the commissioner role.
I'd probably vote for anyone with the surname Gordon.
Henry-F said:
The only thing we have no idea at all on is who we are actually voting for!
Try this - http://www.policeelegliactions.com/candidates/norf...I foresee a deep depression settling over East Anglia.....
The PPC role puts enormous power in the hands of a single individual. This is a frightening prospect given that independent candidates are withdrawing in many areas (including Norfolk!). We will be left with the usual failed hacks or the overly ambitious who will be beholden to their party political masters. Maybe even worse a low turnout allowing a BNP or English Nationalist PPC to grab the post somewhere. Mark my words it's a disaster waiting to happen.
What powers will they have, could they force the police to ignore certain crimes and concentrate on certain areas ? I.e. could you see there nice village being patrolled 24x7 whilst the sink estate down the road is effectively ignored. Or worse, ignore the area covered by your political opposition and concentrate on the areas your own party controls.
Who do they answer to other than the "ballot box" ?
£5000 non refundable deposit to enter and having control of such a vast area covering different political parties. The 80 k salary will be nice as well.
Yes of course this puts power back into the hands of the people... Sigh
Who do they answer to other than the "ballot box" ?
£5000 non refundable deposit to enter and having control of such a vast area covering different political parties. The 80 k salary will be nice as well.
Yes of course this puts power back into the hands of the people... Sigh
I think you'll find it'll be the other way around. The sink estate with lots of voters will get resources, whereas the rural areas will be ignored (even more than they are now). Roads Policing (nasty people who give tickets out-ignore all the drug/cash seizures etc), Economic crime unit and other specialist squads will be sacrificed to have uniforms walking around the estate dealing with dog st.
I have three candidates in my area. One independent, a Tory and Labour. The Tory and Labour candidates can't even be bothered to fill in a single detail on the PCC website. Nothing. If they don't care, why should the public.
Police Officers have been banned from mentioning the election. The level of implied threat is like something from North Korea. It will be a disaster. But the spin machine will go into overdrive and May and Cameron will hail it a success. It will be a succcess for them. They will now have someone to blame for their disastrous culling of the Police Force (sorry Service)
t.I have three candidates in my area. One independent, a Tory and Labour. The Tory and Labour candidates can't even be bothered to fill in a single detail on the PCC website. Nothing. If they don't care, why should the public.
Police Officers have been banned from mentioning the election. The level of implied threat is like something from North Korea. It will be a disaster. But the spin machine will go into overdrive and May and Cameron will hail it a success. It will be a succcess for them. They will now have someone to blame for their disastrous culling of the Police Force (sorry Service)
We have a choice of party hacks a UKIP candidate and an independant who is royally pd over the way they handled his gun licence. You get a first and second preference, I cant wait.
There is a volunteer committee that works with the PCC , we know someone who is applying. Lets face it, the police have not done themselves any favours in how they conduct business. Maybe an outsider will move the focus away from expenses overtime pensions and scameras and onto doing some detection?
Oh and yes, with what we pay in tax we should expect better from the state in all the things it attempts to do.
d over the way they handled his gun licence. You get a first and second preference, I cant wait.There is a volunteer committee that works with the PCC , we know someone who is applying. Lets face it, the police have not done themselves any favours in how they conduct business. Maybe an outsider will move the focus away from expenses overtime pensions and scameras and onto doing some detection?
Oh and yes, with what we pay in tax we should expect better from the state in all the things it attempts to do.
Starfighter said:
I'm just glad to have an independent standing in my area. His lack of political support get him my vote.
I don't know who is standing in my area, but if there are any Independents, I'll be interested in finding out how/and from whom they have received funding to stand as a candidate, before choosing to vote for them.SMGB said:
. Lets face it, the police have not done themselves any favours in how they conduct business. Maybe an outsider will move the focus away from expenses overtime pensions and scameras and onto doing some detection?
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I rest my case. You've just proved exactly why PCCs will be a disaster. .
Elroy Blue said:
I think you'll find it'll be the other way around. The sink estate with lots of voters will get resources, whereas the rural areas will be ignored (even more than they are now). Roads Policing (nasty people who give tickets out-ignore all the drug/cash seizures etc), Economic crime unit and other specialist squads will be sacrificed to have uniforms walking around the estate dealing with dog st.
I have three candidates in my area. One independent, a Tory and Labour. The Tory and Labour candidates can't even be bothered to fill in a single detail on the PCC website. Nothing. If they don't care, why should the public.
Police Officers have been banned from mentioning the election. The level of implied threat is like something from North Korea. It will be a disaster. But the spin machine will go into overdrive and May and Cameron will hail it a success. It will be a succcess for them. They will now have someone to blame for their disastrous culling of the Police Force (sorry Service)
What is the constructive alternative that is being proposed by the Police?t.I have three candidates in my area. One independent, a Tory and Labour. The Tory and Labour candidates can't even be bothered to fill in a single detail on the PCC website. Nothing. If they don't care, why should the public.
Police Officers have been banned from mentioning the election. The level of implied threat is like something from North Korea. It will be a disaster. But the spin machine will go into overdrive and May and Cameron will hail it a success. It will be a succcess for them. They will now have someone to blame for their disastrous culling of the Police Force (sorry Service)
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