It's coming - EU cross-border exchange of information

It's coming - EU cross-border exchange of information

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FiF

44,078 posts

251 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Devil2575 said:
So what was all that waffle about pedestrians bicycles and not understanding the priority then?
It was a total red herring.

Apparently, it's OK to run people on bikes over if you aren't sure if they're pedalling or not, because they probably shouldn't be there. But only if they're foreign. I think.
It wasn't a red herring at all.stop being a tt.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Devil2575 said:
So what was all that waffle about pedestrians bicycles and not understanding the priority then?
It was a total red herring.

Apparently, it's OK to run people on bikes over if you aren't sure if they're pedalling or not, because they probably shouldn't be there. But only if they're foreign. I think.
I thought that what he was saying was that because it's impossible for a foreigner to know all the rules of the road you might knock a pedestrian over. This was ok because it's difficult for the Police to pursue you after you return home but this change is bad because it makes their job easier.

rs1952

5,247 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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FiF said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Devil2575 said:
So what was all that waffle about pedestrians bicycles and not understanding the priority then?
It was a total red herring.

Apparently, it's OK to run people on bikes over if you aren't sure if they're pedalling or not, because they probably shouldn't be there. But only if they're foreign. I think.
It wasn't a red herring at all.stop being a tt.
I think I understand now why FiF thought one of my posts was condescending. Seems there's a sense of humour shortage around him...

By the way FiF, you posted "rest my case. Out" on the last page and then posted another three times. Mind you, if you think you've made an unassailable case with the position you've outlined so far you're going to be as disappointed as the prosecution team was in the Shrien Dewani case wink

22Rgt

3,575 posts

127 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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RedSwede said:
This is most definitely a bad thing, and not just because I like going abroad and doing what the hell I like.

Although not specifically part of this directive, if, as AGT says, bans and other penalties do get "carried home", then we are governed by things we have no democratic control over.

I may have a quick half with lunch in a zero-tolerance country. Fair enough, ignorance is no defence, and I get a ban in that country. However, such a small ammount would not be an offence here. Furthermore, if a zero-tolerance approach to alcohol were proposed, the country (and me) has some scope to change it through democracy. That is not the case for another country.

Of course there are cross border trials and justice now, but not without a court and propper legal consideration. To have cross border punishment of offences that often never go to court and which are potentially due to breaking detail rules that it may be understandable to have overlooked, seems a gross infringement.
You want to drive abroad, then abide by the law of the land. You have absolutely no right to do what the hell you like.As for alcohol, why would you even risk 'a quick half with lunch'?? Far too many arrogant fks think as soon as theyre off the train or ferry the law doesnt apply to them anymore. Pricks..

agtlaw

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6,712 posts

206 months

bad company

18,575 posts

266 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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agtlaw said:
Looks we need to 'Brexit' ASAP. furious

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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bad company said:
agtlaw said:
Looks we need to 'Brexit' ASAP. furious
Or we could bring the UK into line by making the keeper responsible...

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Article said:
The rules were introduced in 2015 across much of the EU, although the UK, Ireland and Denmark were given a two-year exemption. They must now be brought in by May 7, despite Britain’s vote to leave the EU, because the UK is forced to implement European policy until Brexit is enacted.
So what is the EU going to do if we have a sudden attack of forgetfulness or the legislation suffers from some unaaccountable procedural delay?
It's what the French would do (cue Gallic shrug of shoulders) if it was something they didn't like...

I think there are far more important issues which will occupy the negotiation teams on both sides.

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Red Devil said:
It's what the French would do (cue Gallic shrug of shoulders) if it was something they didn't like...
It's what the French do when it comes to enforcement. They put the law in place. And then don't police it.

krallicious

4,312 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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agtlaw said:
Oh, so I can still drive like an arse when I come back to the UK woohoo

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Vaud said:
Red Devil said:
It's what the French would do (cue Gallic shrug of shoulders) if it was something they didn't like...
It's what the French do when it comes to enforcement. They put the law in place. And then don't police it.
Tell that to all the Brits who get frog marched to the nearest cashpoint on the way back from Le Mans to catch the ferry. wink

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
bad company said:
agtlaw said:
Looks we need to 'Brexit' ASAP. furious
Or we could bring the UK into line by making the keeper responsible...
Yes. I'm not sure how the problem is related to "A quirk in EU law". More like the UK lacking in any common sense.

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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Red Devil said:
Tell that to all the Brits who get frog marched to the nearest cashpoint on the way back from Le Mans to catch the ferry. wink
I meant enforcement on the locals... wink

Perik Omo

1,902 posts

148 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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Well being a French "local" I've been done for speeding 3 times in two month period and all the infringements were very minor, one came down to 51km/h in a 50 limit after adjustment and one was by hidden radar gun in someones driveway and two were by cameras due to my own stupid inattention and just last week was pulled for a document check and told sternly by the Gendarme that I had to convert my UK license to French to receive the points for my past speeding infractions!!

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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Perik Omo said:
Well being a French "local" I've been done for speeding 3 times in two month period and all the infringements were very minor, one came down to 51km/h in a 50 limit after adjustment and one was by hidden radar gun in someones driveway and two were by cameras due to my own stupid inattention and just last week was pulled for a document check and told sternly by the Gendarme that I had to convert my UK license to French to receive the points for my past speeding infractions!!
They have gotten very strict over the last 5 years...

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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Great. I've got a run to Morzine (and back) to do in June/July. That'll take forever then.

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

196 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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0000 said:
Great. I've got a run to Morzine (and back) to do in June/July. That'll take forever then.
Not really.. at least you get to do 130 kph on the motorway if it doesn't rain!

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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Ugh. 80mph even on a dry day. That'd be 9 hours just on the French side. sleep

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

196 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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0000 said:
Ugh. 80mph even on a dry day. That'd be 9 hours just on the French side. sleep
That is why back in the day, we used to have "Motorail"...
You just put your car on the train and went and had a slap up meal and a good nights kip, waking up in Edinburgh!

hehe

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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Mill Wheel said:
That is why back in the day, we used to have "Motorail"...
You just put your car on the train and went and had a slap up meal and a good nights kip, waking up in Edinburgh!

hehe
Autotrain. https://autotrain.uk.voyages-sncf.com/en/

Sadly no longer from Calais.