World of Tanks (Vol 2)

World of Tanks (Vol 2)

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Big Al.

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68,795 posts

257 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Continued from here

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Lets get ready to rumble!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

253 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Tag.


Currently hating taking crap tanks into fights where I know I won't contribute much.

Hellcat going OK but prefer wolverine still. May try jackson.

jimmyjimjim

7,329 posts

237 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Was wondering when it would get a volume 2.

Z06George

2,519 posts

188 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Mastodon2, do you normally play evenings? I've got a couple free this week for some time on tanks.

Beati Dogu

8,861 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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They can probably close another power station down now.

I was playing my US account today, since I've still got a couple of days of premium left on it. Had some crap games and some great games.

I managed to get the Ace Tanker in the little Japanese tier 2 freebie tank, the 'George' Te-Ke.



Oh my...!

I quite like this tank, it's kinda cute, like the LTP.

With the same crew I got the Ace Tanker the other day in the regular tier 2 Japanese light tank with an 8-kill game. Here's the replay for that one if you're interested.

http://wotreplays.com/site/1074236#team


shoot Get some!






Alan O'Hagan

441 posts

136 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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IS3 or Caernarvon?

I have both and I would say they are both good in their own way.

The IS3 is still a brawling beast with the BL9 gun but its armour isn't what it used to be. It still has a very very tough turret but unfortunately the rest of the armour doesn't hold up well anymore and I find I can pen them pretty much at will if they arent side scraping. Moreover I see IS3s getting ammo racked more than any other tank. Still a decent tier 8 heavy mind you.

The other problem with the IS3 is that it leads to the IS8 which I never got on with. I found that the IS8 seemed to be suffering from an identity crisis and couldn't make up it's mind if it wanted to be a heavy or a medium, with the result that it did neither very well. It does have an excellent gun however.

The line culminates in the IS7 which is still a solid close range brawling tier 10 heavy with a somewhat disappointing gun.

I enjoyed the Caernarvon although many don't seem to like it. It has poor armour and is a big target so you do need to be very careful with it. However it does have a very bouncy mantlet and good gun depression which makes hull down operations very viable. It also has a good gun with decent penetration and accuracy even if the alpha damage could be a little better.

The Conqueror at tier 9 is more of the same really, but when you get the top gun equipped it becomes an absolute joy to play. The gun has laser accuracy with high penetration and moderate alpha damage. The gun is superior in every way compared to the E75 gun apart from alpha...400 alpha compared to the E75s 490, but the rate of fire is far superior. If you have played and enjoyed the M103 then you will enjoy the Conqueror.

Because of the weak armour profile and excellent gun, this tank is the epitome of the support heavy and you should try to engage from the second line when possible. If you are top tier however, you can get in their faces with the best of them.

The line ends with the FV215B which I havent unlocked yet so I cannot comment. What I can say though is that the FV215B is going to be replaced at tier 10 with the Chieftain Mark 2 in the not too distant future, so it worth getting for that reason alone.

TL:DR Whatever tank you choose to get, IS3 or Caernarvon, you will have fun. They are both solid tier 8 heavies.

Edited by Alan O'Hagan on Tuesday 12th August 08:31

TEKNOPUG

18,842 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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RobDickinson said:
Tag.


Currently hating taking crap tanks into fights where I know I won't contribute much.

Hellcat going OK but prefer wolverine still. May try jackson.
Jackson is Hellcat with armour but slower. If you are taking hits in the Hellcat, you are doing it wrong, so more armour shouldn't make a difference.

I had Hellcat and Jackson at the same time. I upgraded Jackson to the T25/2 but still have the Hellcat.

Jayfish

6,795 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Thanks for the detailed reply Alan, Brit line it is, just need to yawn my way through the BP.

TEKNOPUG

18,842 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Bit of a quandary where to go next.

I currently have the following elited tanks that can move up the trees:

Luchs
Tiger 1
JPanther
Matilda
T29
Hellcat
T25/2
KV1-S

I also have a an SU-152, IS and Tortoise that are nearly elited.

Where to next?

I think that the Matilda, Hellcat and KV1-s will be keepers (may move crews) as they are such fun to play.

As you can see, I've tried to play my tanks equally, so I have a lot of things at T6/7 awaiting the move to T8.

The T29 is the obvious choice as my crew are nearly at 500% but the T32 looks a backward step at T8.

I'm thinking JPanther to Ferdinand, T25/2 to T28 Prot and IS to IS3.


However, from experience, T8's end up in a lot of T9/10 battles. They are expensive enough to run as it is without being bottom of MM against E75/100s etc.

T7 seems the sweet-spot. Any ideas? Suggestions for new lines to begin? I have a Cruiser II which I'm using to get to Bishop and then FV304. I also got an ELC - but no one mentioned that the bloody turret doesn't rotate fully irked

I had a Chinese Type 58 but as I had already played the T-34-85 to death, I lost interest in grinding it again to get the T-34-1/IS-2.

Other things unlocked: Panther, Crusader, T25AT, T20, T-43, Chi-He. Maybe play Crusader to get to Comet?

Martin_Hx

3,951 posts

197 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Ive not got on with the Russian tanks, they are just so hit and miss i would turn the PC off before getting a win !

I am enjoying the Churchills + Centurions at the moment tho.

bstb3

3,990 posts

157 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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TEKNOPUG said:
Bit of a quandary where to go next.

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Other things unlocked: Panther, Crusader, T25AT, T20, T-43, Chi-He. Maybe play Crusader to get to Comet?
I can certainly recommend the Brit medium line, Crusader is fun, Cromwell is bloody brilliant fully upgraded and the Comet is also very good in that it has a very high DPM but needs a lot of skill to get the most out of it. The Centurions are also both very good, haven't bought the FV4202 yet, decided to stop at teh Cent 7/1 but never regretted that line. If you like mobile tanks with not a lot of armour its excellent.

T32 isn't that bad at T8 to be honest, the rate of fire is much better than the T29 which helps to compensate for the low pen it has at it's tier and its more mobile too. You need to spend a lot of time aiming at weakspots, or be prepared to shoot a higher proportion of APCR than normal, but it's competitive enough once you have the hull down playstyle engrained (which I'm guessing you do with a crew that highly skilled smile). If you want a tank line to take up to tier 10 then the American heavies are pretty nice all the way up I found.

Edited by bstb3 on Tuesday 12th August 13:09

TEKNOPUG

18,842 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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bstb3 said:
I can certainly recommend the Brit medium line, Crusader is fun, Cromwell is bloody brilliant fully upgraded and the Comet is also very good in that it has a very high DPM but needs a lot of skill to get the most out of it. The Centurions are also both very good, haven't bought the FV4202 yet, decided to stop at teh Cent 7/1 but never regretted that line. If you like mobile tanks with not a lot of armour its excellent.

T32 isn't that bad at T8 to be honest, the rate of fire is much better than the T29 which helps to compensate for the low pen it has at it's tier and its more mobile too. You need to spend a lot of time aiming at weakspots, or be prepared to shoot a higher proportion of APCR than normal, but it's competitive enough once you have the hull down playstyle engrained (which I'm guessing you do with a crew that highly skilled smile). If you want a tank line to take up to tier 10 then the American heavies are pretty nice all the way up I found.

Edited by bstb3 on Tuesday 12th August 13:09
I think that I'm going to play the Crusader line. Matilda crew are on 192% so will play then until at 200% and then swap them into a Crusader. Biggest problem I have is with so many at T7, it costs a fortune to buy T8 tanks, so can only do one every so often.

Mastodon2

13,818 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Z06George said:
Mastodon2, do you normally play evenings? I've got a couple free this week for some time on tanks.
Yes, I'm generally an evening player, usually on after 20:30ish. I usually use WoT to fill the gaps between playing other games, but if you see me on WoT feel free to send me a party invite and platoon up with me.

In other news, I am now only a few hours away from buying my TOGII, excitement builds.

Beati Dogu

8,861 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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I don't have a TOG, but I hear it's not very good on it's own; It's just a big XP piñata for the other team. In a platoon of 3 of them it's a lot of fun though.


TEKNOPUG said:
I think that I'm going to play the Crusader line. Matilda crew are on 192% so will play then until at 200% and then swap them into a Crusader. Biggest problem I have is with so many at T7, it costs a fortune to buy T8 tanks, so can only do one every so often.
The Crusader is a light tank, so you're going to lose a lot of crew skill transferring them over from the Matilda. It's also a really weak tank and you'll mostly be a tourist, even in tier 5 games.

The Cromwell is great fun to play. It's so damn fast. One of the best tier 6 tanks.

The Comet is complete marmite. Some people like it, but then some people like Justin Bieber. Personally I fking hated it more than anything, until the Syphilis Panzer entered the game. The 100K grind to the Centurion just adds salt to the wound.

When I played it, gold ammo cost real money, so I never used it. I notice in replays that most people spam gold ammo all the time. That's obviously the way to go with this tank. It has very good DPM, so games are going to cost you, but I say go for it. Ideally, play only in a platoon with a couple of other Comets or similar tanks. Together with that DPM, they'd be pretty lethal.

It's Quickybaby's favourite tank, but he pimps it out with pudding & tea and gold ammo. I've seen him have good games, but mostly he gets owned very early on by anyone who knows how to lead a target.

The Centurion Mk1 is a huge soft target the size of an IS-7. I did elite it last year, but so didn't enjoy it that it put me off buying the Centurion 7/1 until it was reduced by 15% last week.


As for other stuff:

If you liked the Jagdpanther, then don't forget the Jagdpanther 2, which is a really good TD. It shares the same guns as the Ferdinand although it has a slightly better rate of fire and much better mobility. It's also an easier grind unless you're also playing the Tiger P, as the Ferdinand is based on that tank and shares a lot of its engines etc.

Definitely get the ISU-152, as you can mount the BL-10 beast canon. Use the stock 152mm derp gun to grind it, but make sure you unlock the other crap guns on the SU-152.

The T32 is a good tank, with better armour than the T29 and a lower profile. The turret mantlet is incredibly thick and you can take advantage of that with its good gun depression . It's not completely OP in it's tier like the T29, that's all. The tanks that come after it are good too.


BTW, the turret on the Deathstar doesn't rotate all the way either.

Alan O'Hagan

441 posts

136 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Don't get too excited about the TOG II. Remember the old saying..."hope is the first step on the road to disappointment".

TEKNOPUG

18,842 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Beati Dogu said:
The Crusader is a light tank, so you're going to lose a lot of crew skill transferring them over from the Matilda. It's also a really weak tank and you'll mostly be a tourist, even in tier 5 games.

The Cromwell is great fun to play. It's so damn fast. One of the best tier 6 tanks.

The Comet is complete marmite. Some people like it, but then some people like Justin Bieber. Personally I fking hated it more than anything, until the Syphilis Panzer entered the game. The 100K grind to the Centurion just adds salt to the wound.

When I played it, gold ammo cost real money, so I never used it. I notice in replays that most people spam gold ammo all the time. That's obviously the way to go with this tank. It has very good DPM, so games are going to cost you, but I say go for it. Ideally, play only in a platoon with a couple of other Comets or similar tanks. Together with that DPM, they'd be pretty lethal.

It's Quickybaby's favourite tank, but he pimps it out with pudding & tea and gold ammo. I've seen him have good games, but mostly he gets owned very early on by anyone who knows how to lead a target.

The Centurion Mk1 is a huge soft target the size of an IS-7. I did elite it last year, but so didn't enjoy it that it put me off buying the Centurion 7/1 until it was reduced by 15% last week.


As for other stuff:

If you liked the Jagdpanther, then don't forget the Jagdpanther 2, which is a really good TD. It shares the same guns as the Ferdinand although it has a slightly better rate of fire and much better mobility. It's also an easier grind unless you're also playing the Tiger P, as the Ferdinand is based on that tank and shares a lot of its engines etc.

Definitely get the ISU-152, as you can mount the BL-10 beast canon. Use the stock 152mm derp gun to grind it, but make sure you unlock the other crap guns on the SU-152.

The T32 is a good tank, with better armour than the T29 and a lower profile. The turret mantlet is incredibly thick and you can take advantage of that with its good gun depression . It's not completely OP in it's tier like the T29, that's all. The tanks that come after it are good too.


BTW, the turret on the Deathstar doesn't rotate all the way either.
Comet's always seem to do well in opposing team's and I find them a pain to play against due to their speed. Had the choice of the Ferdy or JP2 and unlocked the Ferdy....Don't have the cash for everything right now so can continue with the JPanther and unlock both I guess. The SU-152 is hilarious at T7 - is the ISU-152 as effective @ T8? The mega-derp will probably be worth it though hehe

Mastodon2

13,818 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Alan O'Hagan said:
Don't get too excited about the TOG II. Remember the old saying..."hope is the first step on the road to disappointment".
Oh I don't think my expectations are unrealistic, I don't expect to be able to carry in it, or rack up huge XP scores, but it should serve as a fun credit earner, and its different to everything else in the game, even if it can be a frustrating tank to play.

TEKNOPUG

18,842 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Mastodon2 said:
Oh I don't think my expectations are unrealistic, I don't expect to be able to carry in it, or rack up huge XP scores, but it should serve as a fun credit earner, and its different to everything else in the game, even if it can be a frustrating tank to play.
Good in City maps, where you can act as a road-block.

jimmyjimjim

7,329 posts

237 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Beati Dogu said:
The Comet is complete marmite. Some people like it, but then some people like Justin Bieber. Personally I fking hated it more than anything, until the Syphilis Panzer entered the game. The 100K grind to the Centurion just adds salt to the wound.

When I played it, gold ammo cost real money, so I never used it. I notice in replays that most people spam gold ammo all the time. That's obviously the way to go with this tank. It has very good DPM, so games are going to cost you, but I say go for it. Ideally, play only in a platoon with a couple of other Comets or similar tanks. Together with that DPM, they'd be pretty lethal.

It's Quickybaby's favourite tank, but he pimps it out with pudding & tea and gold ammo. I've seen him have good games, but mostly he gets owned very early on by anyone who knows how to lead a target.

The Centurion Mk1 is a huge soft target the size of an IS-7. I did elite it last year, but so didn't enjoy it that it put me off buying the Centurion 7/1 until it was reduced by 15% last week.
Comet is very hit or miss. You really need to get lucky with an enemy team who don't concentrate on you. You'd have some excellent games, and some really crap ones.

Centurion - huge and soft, agreed.

Not felt the urge to get the Cent 7/1 yet; still a dozen tier 7's to go first.

Beati Dogu

8,861 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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TEKNOPUG said:
Comet's always seem to do well in opposing team's and I find them a pain to play against due to their speed. Had the choice of the Ferdy or JP2 and unlocked the Ferdy....Don't have the cash for everything right now so can continue with the JPanther and unlock both I guess. The SU-152 is hilarious at T7 - is the ISU-152 as effective @ T8? The mega-derp will probably be worth it though hehe
That's always the way though. It's like the KV-4. bds to play against, but other people don't seem to have much problem penning mine.

I remember trying the figure out the best way to play the Comet. I even tried following our biggest heavy tank around to support them. If you can get the sides of vehicles you can harass them, but with only 140 average alpha damage it takes a lot of shots to kill them. I did get the Ace Tanker with it, but the fact that I saved the screen shot as "a miracle" says it all I think.

The derp gun on the ISU-152 will hurt any tank. You won't one-shot a tier 8, but you will ruin his day. Bear in mind that I only used HEAT shells with mine. I found HE to be far too inconsistent to be practical & the reload is too slow to allow ammo changes. YMMV.

Once you get the BL-10 you'll have 286mm of penetration and 750 average damage with regular AP. At tier 8 that's awesome. Most tier 10 TDs have been nerfed to that now.

The tier 9 Object 704 has the same gun, but is a much better platform. Also lots of fun to play.