Dash Cam Speeding

[rampantdidact]

Just thinking about this since dash cams are getting ever more popular these days but could someone get done for speeding if someone caught them on their dash cam and reported it to the police?
Beginning of the traffic vigilantes!

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How could a dash cam prove speeding?

[gus607]

Not an approved device !

[paintman]

A number of people have dropped themselves in it by filming themselves doing stupid things then posting it on youtube/social media.
As you are going to be doing a similar speed to said speeder you would be joining their ranks.
Not really thought this through have you?

[benny 61]

paintman said:

A number of people have dropped themselves in it by filming themselves doing stupid things then posting it on youtube/social media.
As you are going to be doing a similar speed to said speeder you would be joining their ranks.
Not really thought this through have you?

I think the OP means if mister dash cam is travelling at 70mph in the middle lane of motorway and you overtake him, can he report you and get you prosecuted.

[KungFuPanda]

As someone has already said, dashcams aren't type approved nor are they calibrated. Different matter for s.59 offences or dangerour driving/due care offences though.

[Blakewater]

If you were involved in an accident and you wanted to use the footage for insurance purposes, I imagine it could be held against you if you were seen to be speeding. Even if someone failed to give way to you, for example, if you were speeding to a large degree you would have presented a danger by approaching faster than could be expected.

[agtlaw]

Video would be admissible, but what about corroboration if not a motorway?

[rampantdidact]

Just wondering, when you overtake somebody you can exceed the speed limit and if the person was a person who didn't take to kindly and had a dash cam could they prosecute or give to the police as evidence?

[Exige77]

rampantdidact said:

Just wondering, when you overtake somebody you can exceed the speed limit and if the person was a person who didn't take to kindly and had a dash cam could they prosecute or give to the police as evidence?

You can't legally exceed the speed limit when overtaking.

The limit is the limit.

[agtlaw]

Exige77 said:

You can't legally exceed the speed limit when overtaking.

The limit is the limit.

Was he suggesting it was legal?

[ging84]

rampantdidact said:

Just wondering, when you overtake somebody you can exceed the speed limit and if the person was a person who didn't take to kindly and had a dash cam could they prosecute or give to the police as evidence?

They can and do report people to the police, some forces have a webpage for submitting it
But considering the number of threads of "look at this law breaker on my dash cam doing something most people would consider trivial and see or even do every day, should i report him to the police" with the number of responses of "of course you should he's broken the law, here's the link to the locals police's webpage for sending in traffic footage" (On PH alone, let alone the rest of the internet).
And considering the absolute lack of "i'm being prosecuted based on someone's dashcamera, can they really do this" threads i would suggest the reports all usually get filed in the same bin

[agtlaw]

Probably in the "community speedwatch" bin.

[Exige77]

agtlaw said:

Was he suggesting it was legal?

Then it was badly worded.

You can exceed the speed limit anytime you want to, not only when overtaking.

[pingu393]

I think plod are only interested in the dangerous stuff like the truck on the A9 and even then it was probably because the press got involved. I think there are too many dashcam warriors for them to worry about cases that are not slam dunks.



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[Driver101]

This is getting stupid now.

There is so many dash cams out there now, we're going to end up getting every little incident or bit of fun presented to the police by someone.

Too soon everyone will be too scared to do 71mph.

[pingu393]

I don't see it as a problem as long as there isn't the infrastructure to analyse and prosecute the footage. That's why I think it will only be the dangerous stuff that will get in front of the courts.

[GPSHead]

So, if the police did take incidents of dashcam-captured speeding seriously, then which of the Anti-Speeding Heroes on this forum would actually report people for it? Are any of them prepared to admit that they would? Surely if speeding is so bad then they'd be doing humanity a favour, and they'd only be acting consistently with their views, so don't be shy, singlecoil et al!

I'd almost like it if this was taken seriously by the police, because so many busybodies would report so many incidences of speeding (particularly on motorways) that the system would be utterly overwhelmed. The only way that the whole nonsense functions at the moment is because only a random small percentage of cases (though still a large number overall) are reported in a compliant way. "They" could easily and profitably have saturated every motorway and trunk road with static hidden cameras by now if they really wanted to catch a significant proportion of speeders (or reduce speeding, for that matter).

Just more evidence that the whole emphasis on speed limits (compared to other factors) is nothing to do with safety. With real offences, which are actually detrimental to society, I believe that authorities actually try to increase the detection/prosecution/conviction rate, not keep it down to a nice manageable level.

[vonhosen]

GPSHead said:

So, if the police did take incidents of dashcam-captured speeding seriously, then which of the Anti-Speeding Heroes on this forum would actually report people for it? Are any of them prepared to admit that they would? Surely if speeding is so bad then they'd be doing humanity a favour, and they'd only be acting consistently with their views, so don't be shy, singlecoil et al!

I'd almost like it if this was taken seriously by the police, because so many busybodies would report so many incidences of speeding (particularly on motorways) that the system would be utterly overwhelmed. The only way that the whole nonsense functions at the moment is because only a random small percentage of cases (though still a large number overall) are reported in a compliant way. "They" could easily and profitably have saturated every motorway and trunk road with static hidden cameras by now if they really wanted to catch a significant proportion of speeders (or reduce speeding, for that matter).

Just more evidence that the whole emphasis on speed limits (compared to other factors) is nothing to do with safety. With real offences, which are actually detrimental to society, I believe that authorities actually try to increase the detection/prosecution/conviction rate, not keep it down to a nice manageable level.

They have increased detection/prosecution/convictions, but they don't throw all their resources into one basket on any issue. They have to spread resources over a wide gamut.

[tapereel]

rampantdidact said:

Just thinking about this since dash cams are getting ever more popular these days but could someone get done for speeding if someone caught them on their dash cam and reported it to the police?
Beginning of the traffic vigilantes!

Yes they can and do: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news...

gus607 said:

Not an approved device !

A device needs no approval, why do you think it does?

Edited by tapereel on Sunday 15th March 07:58