Roundabouts & blocking entry

Roundabouts & blocking entry

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Centurion07

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10,381 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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I was waiting to enter a roundabout earlier when my way was blocked by a police car that stopped right in front of me because the traffic on the exit she was taking had stopped (was already stopped when she entered the roundabout and could have been seen from her entry point).

So I gave her a beep. Her hand gestures & her mouthing of "I'm a police car/I'm on a roundabout and have right of way" left me thinking she thought she was in the right.

I was under the impression that it's pretty much the same as blocking a T-junction i.e. at the very least a driving test fail, if not in fact actually illegal?

Any opinions?

Torquey

1,888 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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I didn't think it was illegal to block the entry, unless there is a yellow box.

Just courtesy not to do so.

HantsRat

2,368 posts

107 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Stop being so petty. Probably inconvenienced you for about 30 seconds? This happens every day up and down the country. Chill out and wait to you can move on.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

169 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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You should have waved your PH merge in turn card, at her.

Centurion07

Original Poster:

10,381 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Torquey said:
I didn't think it was illegal to block the entry, unless there is a yellow box.

Just courtesy not to do so.
I don't know, that's why I asked. smile


HantsRat said:
Stop being so petty. Probably inconvenienced you for about 30 seconds? This happens every day up and down the country. Chill out and wait to you can move on.
Thanks for the very helpful input. rolleyes I couldn't give a st if it was 30 seconds or 3, if it's because somebody is doing something illegal and not just bloody selfish, they can jog on.

So, any actual relevant info pertaining to the question I asked?

HarryW

15,150 posts

268 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Should have tooted again, followed by the coffee beans, that would work..........

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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She is less wrong than you sounding your horn

Vaud

50,289 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/round...

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When reaching the roundabout you should

  • give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
  • check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
  • watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
  • look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off.

Centurion07

Original Poster:

10,381 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Vaud said:
https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/round...

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When reaching the roundabout you should

  • give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
  • check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
  • watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
  • look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off.
I'm fully aware of all of that, thanks.

I was asking if it's ok to block an entry to a roundabout.

Centurion07

Original Poster:

10,381 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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HarryW said:
Should have tooted again, followed by the coffee beans, that would work..........
I did take an extra couple of seconds to debate tooting in the first place, don't think that would've gone down particularly well! hehe

CallorFold

831 posts

132 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Centurion07 said:
Vaud said:
https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/round...

185
When reaching the roundabout you should

  • give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
  • check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
  • watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
  • look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off.
I'm fully aware of all of that, thanks.

I was asking if it's ok to block an entry to a roundabout.
Based on that it doesn't mention it, then Yes, I should think it's fine to block traffic from the left.

I always assumed it was just common courtesy personally.

Centurion07

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10,381 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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desolate said:
She is less wrong than you sounding your horn
You think so? Using my horn to make another road user aware of my presence? I thought that was actually the point...

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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People who block roundabouts like in the OP are useless, selfish twunts.

chriscpritchard

284 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Not illegal, unless yellow box, not even that bad (happens all the time and isn't a major issue, if slightly annoying)

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Centurion07 said:
desolate said:
She is less wrong than you sounding your horn
You think so? Using my horn to make another road user aware of my presence? I thought that was actually the point...
Did you think she was going to reverse into you?


simon1987

401 posts

134 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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should have got the wheel brace out your car and ran at hers all aggro until she sped off.

Vaud

50,289 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Centurion07 said:
I'm fully aware of all of that, thanks.

I was asking if it's ok to block an entry to a roundabout.
Well if you read the highway code you will note that unless there is a yellow hatched box or other warning, then it is legal.

Not sure what answer you want.

It is mildly inconsiderate at best.

R_U_LOCAL

2,676 posts

207 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Centurion07 said:
desolate said:
She is less wrong than you sounding your horn
You think so? Using my horn to make another road user aware of my presence? I thought that was actually the point...
Were you stationary?

Centurion07

Original Poster:

10,381 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Vaud said:
Centurion07 said:
I'm fully aware of all of that, thanks.

I was asking if it's ok to block an entry to a roundabout.
Well if you read the highway code you will note that unless there is a yellow hatched box or other warning, then it is legal.

Not sure what answer you want.

It is mildly inconsiderate at best.
Yep, according to the Highway Code unless there's yellow hatching/some other warning then no, it's not illegal. I was wondering if it would've been covered under the same thing that makes it illegal to block someone's driveway by parking in front of it?

As you say, just inconsiderate, but as she was trying to let me know she had right of way AND the fact she was a police officer, I thought I'd ask on here for my own clarification as to who was in the wrong.

Either way, still inconsiderate so I stand by my toot! biggrin

Centurion07

Original Poster:

10,381 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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R_U_LOCAL said:
Were you stationary?
I was, yes, because I couldn't move 'cos of a bloody police car blocking me! wink