16th century cottage revamp

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Nick_MSM

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186 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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This will probably be rather long winded as there's a fair bit to do... The house has been my father's home for the last 30+ years. It underwent significant restoration in the late '80s when he moved in, but not an awful lot since. I've decided to give him a hand bringing it up to scratch - with the possibility of buying it from him next year.

A very old pic (don't have one to hand currently) of the outside.



Last year the garden had a fair bit of work done to it (mostly) by me. Some pics below of where we're currently at. Longer term the driveway will need expanding, and the garage attending to as it's currently damp in places.






Annoyingly I don't have many 'before' pics of the garden. The side section towards the back was a serious mess though...this is about half way through the project..





Moving inside, over the last 18 months I have decorated probably half of the downstairs. Long term plans are to sand the floors back and refinish in a much lighter finish. Looking into the possibility of some LED downlights whilst remaining sympathetic to the house. The problem is we have very little room between the floors. Another option is track lighting but again tricky with low ceilings.



The first major work for 30+ years started recently. A new second bathroom, again annoyingly no before pics - trust me it was a shocker. Green tiles, mould, out of use for a few years...you name it! We've gone for a very contemporary look which will eventually be mirror'd with the main bathroom, and a new kitchen. I like the 'old meets new' look, having seen it in a number of customers' houses I reckon it works well.

Most of the bathroom is from Bauhaus, ceramic tiles in contrasting grey, uf heating etc etc. So far the plumber has only got as far as plumbing adjustments, tiling walls and fitting the uf heating - nothing in the house is square at all so it has been a bit of a drama to get the prep work done. We're due to have a new ceiling fan, and some LED downlights fitted shortly - the new lights will continue along the landing (later stage as some of the ceiling needs replastering).











That's it for the moment. Will post bathroom update once it's nearly completion - then we're onto the landing area for plastering, painting, downlights, possibly removing carpet and refinishing the floorboards & renovating or replacing banister etc.

roofer

5,136 posts

211 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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That, is a seriously nice place. Good luck with it. cool

Woody3

748 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Lovely looking place!

Can I be cheeky and ask where you got those bathroom tiles from please (oh and their name)? They are pretty much what we are after...cheers!


uk66fastback

16,518 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Pretty sizeable project by the looks of it. Interested to see how it progresses ...

greygoose

8,255 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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I live in an old house too with low ceilings and found it easier to have lights on the walls and lamps as ceiling lights didn't have enough space, except for upstairs. The ceilings aren't smooth anyway so you get a nice moonscape effect with the lights on at night!

Planet Claire

3,321 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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What a beautiful looking house. Looking forward to your updates.

8-P

2,758 posts

260 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Great looking place, lovely garden

Simpo Two

85,361 posts

265 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Really 16th century?

Nick_MSM

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Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Simpo Two said:
Really 16th century?
Yep, possibly even late 15th - the cottage was originally three and thatched, I believe it was converted in the 1920/30s and the dormers added etc.

Thanks for all the comments, it is a pretty sizable project so please assume this thread will run a while wink


Nick_MSM

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Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Woody3 said:
Lovely looking place!

Can I be cheeky and ask where you got those bathroom tiles from please (oh and their name)? They are pretty much what we are after...cheers!
They came from Concepts in Littlehampton. Listed as 'Neptune' Grigo Chiaro (wall tiles) the floor tiles are darker, will have to check the name. Both c£41 a sq.mtr

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Nick_MSM said:
Simpo Two said:
Really 16th century?
Yep, possibly even late 15th - the cottage was originally three and thatched, I believe it was converted in the 1920/30s and the dormers added etc.

Thanks for all the comments, it is a pretty sizable project so please assume this thread will run a while wink
Lovely looking property and my guess is that it is listed? You do have the listed building consents in place?

Nick_MSM

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Wednesday 10th August 2016
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crankedup said:
Lovely looking property and my guess is that it is listed? You do have the listed building consents in place?
Yep, it's grade 2 listed. Never caused too much of an issue, the biggest problem we had was a new boiler flue exiting an exterior wall which cannot be seen - took a lot of arguing even though it was the only place it could go!

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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We're in a 16th century place and they've put small directional lamps on the sides of the beams and run the wiring along and then through. I'll take a photo later to illustrate.

FlipFlopGriff

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247 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Just remember walls, ceilings, floors need to breath so don't use gypsum or cement or modern non breathable paints, but lime, otherwise you'll accelerate decay. The listing should prevent you from using modern materials anyway.
Like the garden - wish ours was that nice.
FFG

Nick_MSM

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186 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Cheers, any lighting ideas/photos would be much appreciated. The current wall lights are pretty dated/useless - we'll need to fit more anyway whichever route we go down.

Floor tiling in the bathroom is nearly finished by the looks of it, so the rest of the install can take place next week I assume. Will add some more pics shortly.

Whilst we're on the subject of bathrooms, the downstairs loo/cloakroom has a little corner sink that has seen better days. I am thinking of using some leftover mosaic tiles to clean it up and adding a new sink/tap/waste (we've recently decorated in there & added a new toilet). As the budget for the new bathroom has been rather large I am keen to keep costs to a minimum in this room. Has anyone ordered from Victoria Plumbing before? The sink below caught my eye, this sink isn't used an awful lot but I don't want something really substandard. Any other suggestions would be great - there isn't a lot of room though so it needs to be fairly compact.

https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/bermuda-wall-h...

gibbon

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207 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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i live in a grade II listed house. Did you get planning permission for the garden renovations?

I want to put a very small area of low decking in my garden and apparently need full planning permission for it? Which seems somewhat convoluted and needlessly expensive. Any experience of this OP?

Nick_MSM

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Wednesday 10th August 2016
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gibbon said:
i live in a grade II listed house. Did you get planning permission for the garden renovations?

I want to put a very small area of low decking in my garden and apparently need full planning permission for it? Which seems somewhat convoluted and needlessly expensive. Any experience of this OP?
Not heard of that before - we did get planning to renovate the sheds etc years ago. Maybe decking is classed as some form of structure? We've only really tidied up and changed a few of the garden beds with new shrubs etc so I can't offer help there I am afraid. I will certainly need planning to extend the driveway though, and we'd really like to add an electric gate in time which may (almost certainly) will prove tricky!

yellowtang

1,775 posts

138 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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I can't see anything in OP's photos which would have required planning permission?

Decking is a permanent structure so that would require listed building consent. It's generally not too much bother obtaining permission for that sort of thing on a grade II so don't let that put you off.

Just make sure your proposed decking isn't going look out of context..........

gibbon

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207 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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yellowtang said:
I can't see anything in OP's photos which would have required planning permission?

Decking is a permanent structure so that would require listed building consent. It's generally not too much bother obtaining permission for that sort of thing on a grade II so don't let that put you off.

Just make sure your proposed decking isn't going look out of context..........
Sorry to take off topic, hope you understand OP, my local council said i would require full planning and listed building consent for a small, simple bit of decking, which frankly, is quite a lot of admin and hassle for the benefit, though im not entirely sure i got through to anyone with half a brain at the council, so if i only need listed building consent that could make things easier.

Nick_MSM

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Wednesday 10th August 2016
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It's fine, always interesting to read of other experiences. I share your pain, the hassle we had for the new boiler was utterly ridiculous but there you go.