Police Officer Smashes Windscreen

[vonhosen]

4x4Tyke said:

How is this any different to Police using a battering ram to knock down a suspects front door to arrest them?

Well we don't know if there was an intent to arrest or grounds for it either.
We've got very little to go on.
The most sensible thing to do is to wait for the investigation to run it's course & see what happens.

[Rovinghawk]

Bigends said:

Hes under NO obligation to get out of the car until under arrest - everything else can be done through the side window -may take longer but thats how it is

Thanks for the information.

Would those defending the PC's actions describe him as acting in a professional manner?

[Greendubber]

Rovinghawk said:

Bigends said:

Hes under NO obligation to get out of the car until under arrest - everything else can be done through the side window -may take longer but thats how it is

Thanks for the information.

Would those defending the PC's actions describe him as acting in a professional manner?

Without knowing what had already happened it cant be judged.

[Sebring440]

Greendubber said:

Without knowing what had already happened it cant be judged.

You obviously haven't watched the video!

[Greendubber]

Sebring440 said:

Greendubber said:

Without knowing what had already happened it cant be judged.

You obviously haven't watched the video!

Clearly I have, what if the bloke in the car had failed to stop, ran someone over, swallowed drugs or something like that? Police officers can and do drag people out of cars, we dont know on this occasion if it is justified or not do we? The guy might be acting like a saint once he's recording but you dont know any more than me about what may have happened prior to that camera being turned on.

[Rovinghawk]

Greendubber said:

what if the bloke in the car had failed to stop, ran someone over, swallowed drugs or something like that? Police officers can and do drag people out of cars, we dont know on this occasion if it is justified or not do we?

The other PC seemed quite relaxed about it from the way he was just stood there, leaning on his car.

[Greendubber]

Rovinghawk said:

Greendubber said:

what if the bloke in the car had failed to stop, ran someone over, swallowed drugs or something like that? Police officers can and do drag people out of cars, we dont know on this occasion if it is justified or not do we?

The other PC seemed quite relaxed about it from the way he was just stood there, leaning on his car.

Until the chap filming got out and he ran over and grabbed him.

[Bigends]

Rovinghawk said:

Greendubber said:

what if the bloke in the car had failed to stop, ran someone over, swallowed drugs or something like that? Police officers can and do drag people out of cars, we dont know on this occasion if it is justified or not do we?

The other PC seemed quite relaxed about it from the way he was just stood there, leaning on his car.

Clearly wanted sod all to do with it

[PoleDriver]

I'm normally 100% in support of bib but this pic is a total disgrace! No police officer should lose his temper like this guy did! I hope his guvnor throws the book at him!
And chewing gum while on the job is a bit council too!

[Rovinghawk]

Greendubber said:

Rovinghawk said:

Would those defending the PC's actions describe him as acting in a professional manner?

Without knowing what had already happened it cant be judged.

So in your opinion it's entirely possible that the PC acted in a professional manner.

I await the outcome.

[vonhosen]

Rovinghawk said:

I await the outcome.

Which is almost always the most sensible thing to do.

[Greendubber]

Rovinghawk said:

Greendubber said:

Rovinghawk said:

Would those defending the PC's actions describe him as acting in a professional manner?

Without knowing what had already happened it cant be judged.

So in your opinion it's entirely possible that the PC acted in a professional manner.

I await the outcome.

Yes, its also entirely possible that he f*cked up and if so he needs to be dealt with. I think its best to wait and see what comes out in the wash.

[Rovinghawk]

vonhosen said:

Which is almost always the most sensible thing to do.

It leads to very short, very dull threads.

[anonymous-user]

Maybe a setup? I can see both sides but we don't know the police side yet. Can't jump to conclusions.
Strange he was happy to film and do a commentary in case viewers missed anything. It's also not enough to just 'tell' the police you are innocent through a car door.
What reason did he have not to get out??

[anonymous-user]

I would add that having been bought up to be law abiding I therefore have to question why he didn't simply get out of the car when asked to. So basically there has to be more to it.

[Bigends]

V6Pushfit said:

I would add that having been bought up to be law abiding I therefore have to question why he didn't simply get out of the car when asked to. So basically there has to be more to it.

A. He doesnt have to why should he need to- he can provide his details from within the car if he wants to

B. After the officer lost his rag with him - he probably feared getting the same treatment as his windscreen

[anonymous-user]

Bigends said:

A. He doesnt have to why should he need to- he can provide his details from within the car if he wants to

B. After the officer lost his rag with him - he probably feared getting the same treatment as his windscreen

Yes but that's supposition. We don't know the detail and on the face of it he's not doing what an officer is requesting.

[Bigends]

V6Pushfit said:

Bigends said:

A. He doesnt have to why should he need to- he can provide his details from within the car if he wants to

B. After the officer lost his rag with him - he probably feared getting the same treatment as his windscreen

Yes but that's supposition. We don't know the detail and on the face of it he's not doing what an officer is requesting.

He doesnt have to get out of the car until hes told hes under arrest - this isnt the states

[Alpinestars]

Elroy Blue said:

Theres numerous reasons why that window would go in. You'd know that having done 30yrs. Apparently.

Let's hear them.

From what we see, that behaviour was disgusting. It's hardly as if the guy was being aggressive or about to drive off.

Is him not getting out of his car illegal?

[TeamD]

Having been on the receiving end of some strife some years back, I don't blame the bloke for not getting out. Unfortunately, them were the days before mobiles with cameras and, come to think of it, social networking.

Regardless of what the driver MAY or MAY NOT have done, absolutely nothing excuses the coppers behaviour. If the situation were so dire as to require extracting the driver from the vehicle then surely the copper could have called for backup instead of going nutjob?