Police car with camera gun

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agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Magic919 said:
More likely 4-6 points and a band B fine.
61/40 mph is too fast for a course but within the fixed penalty threshold. SJPN is usually at 66/40 and above.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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That's much better for him.

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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agtlaw said:
Magic919 said:
More likely 4-6 points and a band B fine.
61/40 mph is too fast for a course but within the fixed penalty threshold. SJPN is usually at 66/40 and above.
Thanks for chipping in agt, does that mean 3 points is more likely?

SS2.

14,462 posts

238 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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br d said:
agtlaw said:
Magic919 said:
More likely 4-6 points and a band B fine.
61/40 mph is too fast for a course but within the fixed penalty threshold. SJPN is usually at 66/40 and above.
Thanks for chipping in agt, does that mean 3 points is more likely?
Yes, because whilst you might be over the threshold for an awareness course, you're below the recommended threshold for a court appearance.

Subject to not approaching 4-5 months from the alleged incident, you're comfortably in FPN territory.

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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SS2. said:
br d said:
agtlaw said:
Magic919 said:
More likely 4-6 points and a band B fine.
61/40 mph is too fast for a course but within the fixed penalty threshold. SJPN is usually at 66/40 and above.
Thanks for chipping in agt, does that mean 3 points is more likely?
Yes, because whilst you might be over the threshold for an awareness course, you're below the recommended threshold for a court appearance.

Subject to not approaching 4-5 months from the alleged incident, you're comfortably in FPN territory.
Thanks.

incident was 5 days ago so hopefully I'm firmly in "Phew!" territory!

agtlaw

6,712 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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br d said:
agtlaw said:
Magic919 said:
More likely 4-6 points and a band B fine.
61/40 mph is too fast for a course but within the fixed penalty threshold. SJPN is usually at 66/40 and above.
Thanks for chipping in agt, does that mean 3 points is more likely?
If your speed estimate is correct then yes.

Btw, SS2 is a credible person. One of very few here.

br d

8,400 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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agtlaw said:
If your speed estimate is correct then yes.

Btw, SS2 is a credible person. One of very few here.
Thanks. Speed figures taken directly from the Police correspondence, 61 in a 40.

sc0tt

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18,040 posts

201 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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br d said:
Thanks. Speed figures taken directly from the Police correspondence, 61 in a 40.
Good effort Brad.

Nothing here yet.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Having driven for over 30 years, I've just received my first ever NIP for doing 37 in a 30, caught by a bloke hiding behind a motorbike that had an A4 bit of paper taped to the side with a little camera symbol on it, at the end of layby ten feet from the NSL sign on an empty road.

You could only make out what was going on as you went past.

They really are s, aren't they.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Mothersruin said:
Having driven for over 30 years, I've just received my first ever NIP for doing 37 in a 30, caught by a bloke hiding behind a motorbike that had an A4 bit of paper taped to the side with a little camera symbol on it, at the end of layby ten feet from the NSL sign on an empty road.

You could only make out what was going on as you went past.

They really are s, aren't they.
Yes someone doing their job and dealing with someone breaking the law is a . rolleyes

Would they still be a if your son/daughter/other family member was crossing the road in the 30 near to the speed limit change was hit by a driver at 37mph but the Police said 'Oh well, the road is empty and we're 10 feet away from the NSL sign'

Yes it's an exaggeration but limit are limits. I have 3 points on my licence for 35 in a 30. I didn't kick up a fuss and throw a tantrum calling them s as I was breaking the speed limit and they are doing their job?

Edited by HantsRat on Wednesday 19th April 10:59

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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HantsRat said:
Yes someone doing their job and dealing with someone breaking the law is a . rolleyes

Would they still be a if your son/daughter/other family member was crossing the road in the 30 near to the speed limit change was hit by a driver at 37mph but the Police said 'Oh well, the road is empty and we're 10 feet away from the NSL sign'

Yes it's an exaggeration but limit are limits. I have 3 points on my licence for 35 in a 30. I didn't kick up a fuss and throw a tantrum calling them s as I was breaking the speed limit and they are doing their job?

Edited by HantsRat on Wednesday 19th April 10:59
Yeah, they're s. I didn't see them in the built up areas where your daughter was playing. Just three miles out of a town in rural Wales.

I work with the traffic guys often and have the greatest respect. The camera guys trying to hide themselves in the most opportune places are nothing but leeches.

Edited by Mothersruin on Wednesday 19th April 11:11

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Mothersruin said:
Yeah, they're s. I didn't see them in the built up areas where your daughter was playing. Just three miles out of a town in rural Wales.
Limit is still a limit no matter where it is. Stop throwing your toys out the pram, accept you were caught a move on. If you think the limit is wrong, write to your local MP.

Post a google maps location of where they were.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Toys in pray lad. Just an observation that it was sneaky at a place that was set up to catch people not reduce accidents.

Can't post a map link, but it was just out of Crickhowell towards Brecon on the A40.

twing

5,005 posts

131 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Mothersruin said:
Toys in pray lad. Just an observation that it was sneaky at a place that was set up to catch people not reduce accidents.

Can't post a map link, but it was just out of Crickhowell towards Brecon on the A40.
This road? https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=jET3WIO...

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Sheepshanks said:
xjay1337 said:
I can almost certainly guarantee if you were doing 69 on a national single carriageway road you will be getting a ticket.
How many of those have slip roads?

xjay1337 said:
There is no such thing as reasonable speed policing in this country unless you are pulled by traffic.
Unlikely a non-traffic car would be carrying a speed camera.
What's that go to do with the price of fish?

Last time I was pulled over for "speeding" by a Panda car.
I stood my ground, I had clocked her and wasn't speeding at all.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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twing said:
Mothersruin said:
Toys in pray lad. Just an observation that it was sneaky at a place that was set up to catch people not reduce accidents.

Can't post a map link, but it was just out of Crickhowell towards Brecon on the A40.
This road? https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=jET3WIO...
Really? Google any road and you'll get the same.

Anyway a lesson has been learnt.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,922 posts

100 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Mothersruin said:
HantsRat said:
Yes someone doing their job and dealing with someone breaking the law is a . rolleyes

Would they still be a if your son/daughter/other family member was crossing the road in the 30 near to the speed limit change was hit by a driver at 37mph but the Police said 'Oh well, the road is empty and we're 10 feet away from the NSL sign'

Yes it's an exaggeration but limit are limits. I have 3 points on my licence for 35 in a 30. I didn't kick up a fuss and throw a tantrum calling them s as I was breaking the speed limit and they are doing their job?

Edited by HantsRat on Wednesday 19th April 10:59
Yeah, they're s. I didn't see them in the built up areas where your daughter was playing. Just three miles out of a town in rural Wales.

I work with the traffic guys often and have the greatest respect. The camera guys trying to hide themselves in the most opportune places are nothing but leeches.

Edited by Mothersruin on Wednesday 19th April 11:11
Precisely. People, me included would mind less if proper dangerous driving was monitored and policed as rigorously.

On Monday we went to Norfolk, along the A17. A hateful piece of road at the best of times, and littered with camers. Luckily Sarah was driving (she drives steadier than me) as at the end of a (safe, clear) piece of long straight there was plod (not a safety camera partnership) outside a van with his camera, tucked out of sight till the last second.

Some may argue that 'he's doing his job'. I'd much prefer he was out and about on the move to hopefully have witnessed the 3 dangerous overtakes we witnessed on that drive - people probably at the end of their tether with cameras causing a crawl no less - one of which took place far too close to a bend.

I know who would be more likely to cause a fatal accident, and which is the easy result.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Precisely. People, me included would mind less if proper dangerous driving was monitored and policed as rigorously.

It is. So is speeding such as this situation.

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Mothersruin said:
Having driven for over 30 years, I've just received my first ever NIP for doing 37 in a 30, caught by a bloke hiding behind a motorbike that had an A4 bit of paper taped to the side with a little camera symbol on it, at the end of layby ten feet from the NSL sign on an empty road.

You could only make out what was going on as you went past.

They really are s, aren't they.
He didn't speed check you ten feet from the NSL though did he? You would have been hundreds of metres into the 30 when he clocked you. Not that I agree with booking people for 37mph. but you will probably get the option of a classroom chat.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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It depends on the prevailing conditions. Hand-held speed guns don't have the ability to take photographic evidence, so normally you'll be stopped at the time, shown the reading on the device and issued with a FPN, and this is how the officers I've spoken to prefer to do it.

However, if it's too dangerous to pull you over, then you can still be issued a FPN through the post.