79mph in a 70 limit

[HantsRat]

gus607 said:

What happened to the 10% + 2mph rule ?

10% of 70 is 77. Plus 2 is 79??

[4040vision]

gus607 said:

What happened to the 10% + 2mph rule ?

10% of 70 = 7

7 plus 2 = 9

70 + 9 = 79

"It is expected that a fixed penalty is the minimum action as soon as the following speeds have been reached..."

Where's you problem?

[Engineer792]

4rephill said:

mygoldfishbowl said:

QBee said:

They are average speed cameras, bright yellow posts etc, and all the rest of the traffic will have been doing 68 mph or less. Have to ask what you were thinking if it was in that area.

1 MPH slower & he would have been ok.

That's no good to the OP - He's only got a kph speedometer!

(BTW OP: If you sit on 110kph then you're only going 68.3508mph )

del mar said:

.......It was the last rhd Ghibli cup, but not the last Ghibli, I can't see why somebody would change the speedo to km.

Have you owned the car from new? - It sounds like a personal import from somewhere such as Hong Kong/Japan/Australia etc., etc., to Me.

Or possibly from South Africa ... oh hang on, it can't be from there otherwise it would have crashed by now

[TooMany2cvs]

del mar said:

The car is a UK car but with a km speedo it has always had one manufacturer ran out of mph ones !

70 = 113
80 = 130
HTH.

[del mar]

The v5 shows first owner 8/98, address in Berkshire.

Looking at parts catalogues it wouldnt be a surprise, the odds are they picked up what ever part was nearest to hand !!

I have had the car 10 years now, I know the km - mph conversion but we all try to push it a little......

Lesson learnt - be more vigilant !!

[anonymous-user]

gus607 said:

What happened to the 10% + 2mph rule ?

That's the lowest speed you can be done at (if the ACPO guidelines are followed) NOT the limit you are safe at.

Safe (if guidelines are followed) is 10% + 1

[QBee]

I managed to drive a TVR for a few weeks with no speedo at all when the speed sensor failed. Quickly learned to convert RPM to MPH in each gear. No speeding tickets.

[Biker 1]

QBee said:

I managed to drive a TVR for a few weeks with no speedo at all when the speed sensor failed. Quickly learned to convert RPM to MPH in each gear. No speeding tickets.

Has the OP considered using his satnav as a speedo??

[parabolica]

garyhun said:

gus607 said:

What happened to the 10% + 2mph rule ?

That's the lowest speed you can be done at (if the ACPO guidelines are followed) NOT the limit you are safe at.

Safe (if guidelines are followed) is 10% + 1

Or you could get very unlucky, like me, and encounter a zero-tolerance weekend ticketing spree:

[JNW1]

parabolica said:

garyhun said:

gus607 said:

What happened to the 10% + 2mph rule ?

That's the lowest speed you can be done at (if the ACPO guidelines are followed) NOT the limit you are safe at.

Safe (if guidelines are followed) is 10% + 1

Or you could get very unlucky, like me, and encounter a zero-tolerance weekend ticketing spree:

Did you accept accept the NIP or challenge it? It has been suggested on another forum that NIP's issued for transgressions falling within the ACPO guidelines tend not to be pursued if contested.

I also think one of the requirements for qualifying for a SAC are that your speed must be between the speed limit plus 10% plus 2mph and the speed limit plus 10% plus 9mph (so between 79mph and 86mph inclusive in a 70 limit). That sort of implies that generally if you're doing less than the speed limit plus 10% plus 2mph you won't be prosecuted; it also wouldn't make any sense to me to offer the option of a SAC to someone doing 79mph in a 70mph limit but give points and a fine to someone doing 78mph...

[parabolica]

Didn't challenge; took the SAC. I was under the impression the enforcements started at +10% so didn't even think to challenge. No harm done either way; the SAC was actually pretty good.

[vsonix]

Ki3r said:

del mar said:

Thank you.

I will await my sac then.

Do you get them in the area where you were caught or can you opt to take them nearer to home ?

Depends on where you got caught. Dorset you can only do them in Dorset, I think other forces you can do them elsewhere.

34 in a 30 in Norfolk (hand-held camera), did the SAC in Devon.

[JNW1]

parabolica said:

Didn't challenge; took the SAC. I was under the impression the enforcements started at +10% so didn't even think to challenge. No harm done either way; the SAC was actually pretty good.

In theory at least I suppose enforcement can start at 1mph over the limit but the impression I get is that most forces still use the ACPO guidelines and those that don't will back-off if they've issued a NIP for a transgression within those guidelines and it's then challenged.

Having been on on an SAC myself a couple of years ago I agree they can be beneficial; however, it does seem very dependent on who's running the course as I also know a number of people who've attended one and found them to be quite patronising.

[Digby]

vsonix said:

34 in a 30 in Norfolk (hand-held camera), did the SAC in Devon.

I would have taken the points...because screw them.

Being fined for something so pathetic would just make me go faster in areas I knew were not covered....because screw them.

[mygoldfishbowl]

parabolica said:

Or you could get very unlucky, like me, and encounter a zero-tolerance weekend ticketing spree:

Camera van? I've stated on here before that I've never trusted them when it comes to the 10+2 guidelines.

[4040vision]

parabolica said:

garyhun said:

gus607 said:

What happened to the 10% + 2mph rule ?

That's the lowest speed you can be done at (if the ACPO guidelines are followed) NOT the limit you are safe at.

Safe (if guidelines are followed) is 10% + 1

Or you could get very unlucky, like me, and encounter a zero-tolerance weekend ticketing spree:

78 in a 70! Either you were in a truck or I call foul on your picture

[xjay1337]

Plead guilty, take the SAC.

[parabolica]

mygoldfishbowl said:

Camera van? I've stated on here before that I've never trusted them when it comes to the 10+2 guidelines.

Yes it was a van, parked on an overpass and painted dull yellow and looking like a standard council/motorway works van. They also had several cars parked up about a mile after the van probably hoping to catch repeat offenders.

[TooMany2cvs]

parabolica said:

Yes it was a van, parked on an overpass and painted dull yellow and looking like a standard council/motorway works van. They also had several cars parked up about a mile after the van probably hoping to catch repeat offenders.

Sounds like they were doing ANPR for no insurance and other offences, too, not just speed.

[SS2.]

4040vision said:

parabolica said:

Or you could get very unlucky, like me, and encounter a zero-tolerance weekend ticketing spree:

78 in a 70! Either you were in a truck or I call foul on your picture

Grabs popcorn and gets comfy.