EV clamped for no tax

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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andy_s said:
Yes, but not at a glance like a tax disc, which also shows insurance is covered.
Tax disc? Have you been living under a rock for a few years?!

Drumroll

3,737 posts

119 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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The Road Fund Licence is also a means to check, what the status is of a car. It may act as a reminder for some drivers about MOT, insurance, change of address etc.


andy_s

19,397 posts

258 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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hornetrider said:
andy_s said:
Yes, but not at a glance like a tax disc, which also shows insurance is covered.
Tax disc? Have you been living under a rock for a few years?!
Yes!

herewego

8,814 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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I'm not sure what DVLA gain from requiring people to apply for VED each year for a zero tax rate car.

768

13,599 posts

95 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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andy_s said:
768 said:
andy_s said:
Tax @ £0 is to check for an MoT, which this car needs, and insurance, which all cars on the road need.

Fair not harsh.
Tax at £0 is to check for an MoT? Can't an MoT be checked for otherwise?
Yes, but not at a glance like a tax disc, which also shows insurance is covered.
I'm even more confused.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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herewego said:
I'm not sure what DVLA gain from requiring people to apply for VED each year for a zero tax rate car.
It's been exactly the same for a VERY long while. The only difference is that more new cars are now zero VED, so more people get the opportunity to explore their cluelessness.

Disabled tax class has been free since gawd knows when.
Historic vehicles have been free since 1994.
<100g/km CO2 vehicles have been free since the introduction of CO2 VED bands in 2001.

VED behaves EXACTLY the same way for these vehicles, it's just that no money gets handed over.

Needs to be taxed. If not taxed, it needs to be SORNed. If SORNed, must be off the road. Can't be uninsured and taxed. MOT checked when you tax, just as insurance used to be.

Cold

15,207 posts

89 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Computer says no.

DBSV8

5,958 posts

237 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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its the same for visiting London , congestion charge is free .................but you have to register first ...........that will be £ 10

sir

waste of time !!

catso

14,769 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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768 said:
andy_s said:
Tax @ £0 is to check for an MoT, which this car needs, and insurance, which all cars on the road need.

Fair not harsh.
Tax at £0 is to check for an MoT? Can't an MoT be checked for otherwise?
I get what you're saying but ours will be the first renewal and MOT not due yet, just seems like a pointless job creating, money waster to me...

InitialDave

11,851 posts

118 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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catso said:
just seems like a pointless job creating, money waster to me...
The DVLA said:
DVLA is an executive agency, sponsored by the Department for Transport.

Antony Moxey

8,014 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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catso said:
I get what you're saying but ours will be the first renewal and MOT not due yet, just seems like a pointless job creating, money waster to me...
Why is it pointless and money wasting? It takes seconds to do online and how else are they supposed to check the status of vehicles - should it be assumed that because you haven't 'taxed' your car that it must be zero rated and exempt from a charge. It's not really that difficult to work out, is it?

768

13,599 posts

95 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Antony Moxey said:
Why is it pointless and money wasting? It takes seconds to do online and how else are they supposed to check the status of vehicles - should it be assumed that because you haven't 'taxed' your car that it must be zero rated and exempt from a charge. It's not really that difficult to work out, is it?
I thought they tell us whether a car is zero rated for emissions, can I tell them my car is zero rated?

Antony Moxey

8,014 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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They do, but should anyone need to check the status of your car then should they assume that because you haven't paid anything you're zero rated? Or is it easier for the driver to fill out a form online once a year that takes literally no more than a minute or two. Some people appear intent on finding problems just for the sake of it.

Vipers

32,796 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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untakenname said:
Oh, didn't realise you need to even if it's zero pounds, the cars owners must of not either.

It's bit harsh clamping it then if it's simply an admin thing, will probably cost them quite a bit to release it.

At first I thought it may have been clamped for parking too close to the junction or ignoring a no parking sign for roadworks taking place.

Took a pic earlier in the day
Bad place to abandon it, bend in the road or a junction, either way, bit of a blind spot.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Antony Moxey said:
They do, but should anyone need to check the status of your car then should they assume that because you haven't paid anything you're zero rated? Or is it easier for the driver to fill out a form online once a year that takes literally no more than a minute or two. Some people appear intent on finding problems just for the sake of it.
And let's not forget that Band A may not always be £0...

98elise

26,364 posts

160 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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andy_s said:
Tax @ £0 is to check for an MoT, which this car needs, and insurance, which all cars on the road need.

Fair not harsh.
Why? MOT and Insurance are electronic so there should be no need for tax @0 to check.


768

13,599 posts

95 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Antony Moxey said:
They do, but should anyone need to check the status of your car then should they assume that because you haven't paid anything you're zero rated? Or is it easier for the driver to fill out a form online once a year that takes literally no more than a minute or two. Some people appear intent on finding problems just for the sake of it.
Eh? Is it easier for millions of drivers to unreliably do something or not every year, or for who/whatever is checking to use a system that does a database lookup at near zero cost and near perfect accuracy?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

125 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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768 said:
Eh? Is it easier for millions of drivers to unreliably do something or not every year, or for who/whatever is checking to use a system that does a database lookup at near zero cost and near perfect accuracy?
This year - my car costs money for VED. Next year - it's 40, so it's free.
This year - band A is £0 VED. Next year - it's gone up to £20.

Should the entire process change for those vehicles?

98elise

26,364 posts

160 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Antony Moxey said:
catso said:
I get what you're saying but ours will be the first renewal and MOT not due yet, just seems like a pointless job creating, money waster to me...
Why is it pointless and money wasting? It takes seconds to do online and how else are they supposed to check the status of vehicles - should it be assumed that because you haven't 'taxed' your car that it must be zero rated and exempt from a charge. It's not really that difficult to work out, is it?
Because it's a paperless system and "They" are the same organisation that says it's zero cost, yet want you to apply for tax at zero. Whats achieved by applying for zero rate tax?

It's like getting people that are normal rate PAYE to submit a tax return, because it only takes a few minutes.

I'm a business analyst so my job is to sort crap like that out!

It's mainly public sector organisations that promote pointless form filling.

Durzel

12,232 posts

167 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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catso said:
Seems a tad pointless, so about right for the UK/DVLA.
Makes a whole lot more sense to have it so every car on the road has to be recorded as having tax, even if that tax rate is nil, than it does to have a two tier system where Police and everyone else that only have a numberplate to go on have to somehow second guess what they're looking at (a car) and work out if it needs to have tax or not based on "how EV it looks".